FEATURED INBOX POST: Ordained Assemblies of God church Minister & MRFF Advisory Board member, Pastor Joan, replies to fundamentalist Christian detractor

Published On: September 3, 2013|Categories: MRFF's Inbox, News|0 Comments|

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A message from a MRFF detractor

First I do not hate so please read and understand from the heart these words of a man who Gd loves his Country and all therein.

I am a Vet Mickey and the bottom line is that you mock ALL the men and woman who died and spilled their blood to uphold the First amendment and the right to unabridged religious freedom and that includes the Military.

But in your defense this anti-Gd behavior is not new to the Military for it has been festering before you were born. I feel sorry for you and all at Military Religious Freedom Foundation for you all have become racist religious bigots in the religious context. For it is clear that you HATE Christians and religion that do not line up with your views and you do not even know why you hate Christians.

I am sure we do agree on one point that there is no room for people who threaten and cuss and talk filth of a garbage can which is not necessary to get your point across. But it is clear Mickey that you and Military Religious Freedom Foundation and other anti-Gd foundations like yourselves are the source of the “generated” hate you are receiving in the emails. (For Hate breeds Hate.) Sorry Mickey, but you and all at Military Religious Freedom Foundation have brought it on yourselves; as well as ALL atheist groups and “foundations” who hate. (Hate breeds hate) Americans are fed up with people who smile in front and talk sweet but have a preverbal knife in every Americans back as is reflected in the Military Religious Freedom Foundation hate mail that has been received. Remember if you sow hate you will “receive hate email”. Stalin and Mussolini and the in infamous Hitler would have embraced you for sure for they also Hated Gd, and all who walked with Gd who is the source of all that is decent and good and it is destroying the very insides of your Soul. Hate always Breed hate and more hate Mikey. As it is written, “You will reap what you sow” and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and other atheist organizations have sowed the seeds of hate and now you all are reaping the hate you sowed.

I have read the article about Operation Christmas Child Mickey, I am sorry to say, like Obama, you are attempting to DESTROY with hate all that we are as Americans. Americans are fighting back and let us pray that it stays a war of words and votes.

Sadly with remorse Mikey that you and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation remind me of the Hate character in the movie Fire Fire with Bruce Willis who brutalized and killed Blacks just for Hate sake. Military Religious Freedom Foundation and other atheist organizations are the religious version of the KKK and greatly offend Gd and all that is decent and good in this country. But the sad thing is Mickey that the evil one Satan has blinded you to what you are doing. Mickey, I don’t know what or who put you all on a trial of hate but it is eating you all up inside and the pain and loneliness is causing you all to lash out at Gd who loves you and wants the best for you. Whatever it is that is eating you all up with Hatred but, Gd knows, Gd will deliver you in Jesus and SET YOU FREE!

Again I do not Hate you Mickey, but feel very sorry for you and all at Military Religious Freedom Foundation and all atheist worlds wide. For you all are hurting and in pain inside your souls and want out of the pain; Jesus is the way out; Come to Him.

Jesus is the only way to freedom and that my friend is what this Country freedom is founded on. That is the freedom to walk with Gd in the Name of Jesus and to Love others with Gd kind of Love. Gd will forgive you Mickey of all this you have done if you will turn from this wicked way and come to Him, for he is ready to embrace you and Love on you as a child who needs security and affection in His unfailing Love. Not the Love of this world that you have know but the real Love from Gd that you all have been seeking ALL your lives.

Mikey Weinstein as a Jew you know what Hitler did to 8 million Jews in NAZI Germany and I am sure that there are those in your family who still remember. Hitler hated Jews, that represent Gd and who are the chosen of God, so much that he called them animals and put them in huge ovens and cremated them alive. Men, Woman and Children were sent into the ovens to die a horrible death. So as a Jew, how can you a Jew hate when you know where this Hate will lead as it did in NAZI Germany and with a hate that exterminated so many JEWS in NAZI Germany? So please do not hate with the hate of Hitler for as a JEW a chosen of Gd it will lead only to the destruction of your very soul Mikey.

So in the Name of your Gd stop the hate before it destroys you Mickey as it did to Hitler so long ago. Love again Mickey for the Gd LOVE will illuminate the very depth of you soul.

Then you will call on your Gd and he will fill you with what your have longed for so long.

I love you Mikey. Don’t run from your Gd anymore but embrace Him for he only wants to fill you with HIS love for He is Love who created the Universe and the Earth and all that is in them.

Love Mikey, Here the word of the Lord Gd, Please Love again. For your Gd Loves you deaply.

With Gd Love, (name withheld)


A response from Pastor Joan Slish, a MRFF Advisory Board Member

After 32 years of participation as a congregational member, teacher and ultimately as an ordained Assistant Minister, Joan was witness and clergy counsel to numerous parishioners.  Her involvement in the evangelical movement culminated in her realization that their teachings are antithetical to the New Testament and ultimately resulted in her resignation and departure from her position as an ordained minister.

Joan has conducted extensive research on Christian Dominionism and its infestation of mainline churches in America.  She collaborates with experts nationwide, with an intensive emphasis on Dominionist activities in the past 7 years.  Her ongoing work exposes the fundamentally unchristian practices perpetrated by this sect.

In addition to her research, Joan contributes to many websites and forums, volunteering her knowledge of biblical resources and firsthand eye-witness accounts as a “walkaway” from one of the most prominent sects of Christian Dominionism in the United States, the Assemblies of God church.

Dennis,

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) does receive a lot of hate mail, but in all of my years being on the Advisory Board of MRFF, I have never read a more despicable email such as yours. You cloak your vile, bigoted, anti-Semitic, holocaust-illiterate rant with the love of Jesus, which you fail miserably at.

You wrote-

Mikey Weinstein as a Jew you know what Hitler did to 8 million Jews in NAZI Germany and I am sure that there are those in your family who still remember. Hitler hated Jews, that represent Gd and who are the chosen of God, so much that he called them animals and put them in huge ovens and cremated them alive. Men, Woman and Children were sent into the ovens to die a horrible death.”

Still remember?” What type of Christian are you that you could even think that the Jews have forgotten what was done to them? Did you enjoy pulling the scab off of that heartbreaking time for Mikey? Did you know that two of Mikey’s family members gave video testimony for Steven Spielberg when he did Schindler’s List? Of course you didn’t you self-righteous, arrogant, spiteful Christian in name only!

Did you know that Hitler professed to being a Christian and had the help of Christian churches to rise to power? Did you know that he used the anti-Semitic writings of Martin Luther to justify the killing of the Jews? Of course you didn’t you illiterate, religious bigot!

Let me inform you of the true Hitler.

Martin Luther wrote a book called “The Jews and their Lies” in 1543. He is the “Father of anti-Semitism in the Christian faith.” In chapter 15 he writes-

I shall give you my sincere advice:

First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly and I myself was unaware of it will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.

Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might belodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them the fact that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.

Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them.

Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuteronomy 17:10) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: “what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord.” Those villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people’s obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16:18, “You are Peter,” etc., inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach.

Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let them stay at home. I have heard it said that a rich Jew is now traveling across the country with twelve horses his ambition is to become a Kokhba devouring princes, lords, lands, and people with his usury, so that the great lords view it with jealous eyes. If you great lords and princes will not forbid such usurers the highway legally, someday a troop may gather against them, having learned from this booklet the true nature of the Jews and how one should deal with them and not protect their activities. For you, too, must not and cannot protect them unless you wish to become participants in their abominations in the sight of God. Consider carefully what good could come from this, and prevent it.”

Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us and they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God’s blessing in a good and worthy cause.”

Someday a troop may gather against them, having learned from this booklet the true nature of the Jews and how one should deal with them and not protect their activities.”

This troop is Hitler and his army.

The prevailing view among historians is that Luther’s anti-Jewish rhetoric contributed significantly to the development of anti-semitism in Germany, and in the 1930s and 1940s provided an ideal foundation for the Nazi Party‘s attacks on Jews. Just about every anti-Jewish book printed in the Third Reich contained references to and quotations from Luther. Luther’s 1543 pamphlet On the Jews and Their Lies was a “blueprint” for the Kristallnacht. Shortly after the Kristallnacht, Martin Sasse, Bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Thuringia, published a compendium of Martin Luther‘s writings ; Sasse “applauded the burning of the synagogues” and the coincidence of the day, writing in the introduction, “On November 10, 1938, on Luther’s birthday, the synagogues are burning in Germany.” (1)

In Mein Kampf  (I read the whole book) Hitler wrote-

“I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jews, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense, he certainly believed in the Bible’s God. Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery’s coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler’s most ardent goal was to become a priest. Much of his philosophy came from the Bible, and more influentially, from the Christian Social movement. (The German Christian Social movement, remarkably, resembles the Christian Right movement in America today.) Many have questioned Hitler’s stand on Christianity. Although he fought against certain Catholic priests who opposed him for political reasons, his belief in God and country never left him. Many Christians throughout history have opposed Christian priests for various reasons; this does not necessarily make one against one’s own Christian beliefs. Nor did the Vatican’s Pope & bishops ever disown him; in fact they blessed him! As evidence to his claimed Christianity, he said:

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” (2)

Yes, the Evangelical/Fundamental/Dominionist Right-wing Christians of today do mirror Hitler. This is what we fight against in the military that has taken control of it! This extreme form of Christianity is relentless in its in-your-face religious proselytizing to other soldiers by the military personnel all the way up to the Commander. They have usurped the office of the Chaplains. They have harassed, beaten, withheld advancements and drummed soldiers out of the military on trumped up charges, all in the name of Jesus. They believe in cleansing the military of all of those that do not believe in the sect they do.

You see, MRFF does not act on its own but at the request of soldiers’ complaints of the blatant disregard and trampling of the Constitution and the Military Code of Justice; blurring the lines between the separation of church and state. Every complaint is vetted by Mikey who was a JAG lawyer at the Air Force Academy for 10 years; worked in the West Wing under Ronald Reagan; and held positions in private practice.

MRFF is made up of more than just Mikey. There is Blake (the Assistant to the President), the Board, the Advisory Board, volunteers and supporters. In fact, 75% of those involved with MRFF are Christian. A full 96% of our 34,000+ soldier clients (1 can represent more than 50) are Christian – Catholics, Episcopalians, Methodist, Lutherans, Baptists, Evangelicals, etc.

It is our military that is under attack and it is by the Evangelical/Fundamentalist/Dominionist right wing Christians, sad to say.

US Army chaplain MAJ James Linzey, who, in a 1999 video, described mainstream Protestant churches as “demonic, dastardly creatures from the pit of hell “that should be “stomped out.”

This is the thinking of the military of today throughout the chain of command all the way to the Pentagon. They believe that the only “true” Christian is one that is “born-again” and has a “spiritual birthday.” All mainline Christians (see above) are destined to hell.

This thinking is destroying our military from the inside and it is being perpetrated from the Pentagon down to the lowest soldier in a leadership position. It has taken “morale”, “good order”, “discipline”, and “unit cohesion” and shredded it beyond recognition – all in the name of religion.

Military Chaplains – not Commanders or those in leadership positions – are in charge of the spiritual needs of their soldiers in each denomination and must have tolerance and acceptance for all faiths in deference to their own personal religious convictions. In addition to personal tolerance, military Chaplains must ensure religious freedom or lack thereof for all soldiers according to the 2nd Amendment.

“. . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”   (Article VI, Section III)

Our military is a government entity and must remain secular. Any person that wants to don the uniform of a branch of our military is free to do so with the express admonition from the Constitution to not exalt one religion over another.

The Air Force has explicit rules on religious neutrality.

BY ORDER OF THE SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE

Air Force Instruction 1-1

7 August 2012

2.11. Government Neutrality Regarding Religion. Leaders at all levels must balance constitutional protections for an individual’s free exercise of religion or other personal beliefs and the constitutional prohibition against governmental establishment of religion. For example, they must avoid the actual or apparent use of their position to promote their personal religious beliefs to their subordinates or to extend preferential treatment for any religion. Commanders or supervisors who engage in such behavior may cause members to doubt their impartiality and objectivity. The potential result is a degradation of the unit’s morale, good order, and discipline. Airmen, especially commanders and supervisors, must ensure that in exercising their right of religious free expression, they do not degrade morale, good order, and discipline in the Air Force or degrade the trust and confidence that the public has in the United States Air Force.

This ORDER OF THE SECRETARY OF THE AIR FORCE is to quell the rampant, in-your-face religious proselytizing by the command structure to make sure that every soldier is “born again”, a “warrior for Christ”, every war a “Crusade” and our soldiers are “government paid missionaries.”

We are not trying to destroy Christianity. We work as an agent on behalf of our soldiers to force our military to abide by the Constitution and all military laws where religious neutrality is concerned.

These Christians must obey our laws according to God.

“Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.” Romans 13:1-2

Our name reflects our mission: The Military Religious Freedom Foundation.

We are not the Military Religious-Free Foundation.

Matthew 7:1-2 says, “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged.”

So, it is you, the Evangelical/Fundamental/Dominionist right-wing Christians and our military that are following in the footsteps of Hitler. You should be so proud!

The next time you decide to inject your own thoughts to an organization I suggest you do a little research to keep you from looking like a fool.

You need to get down on your knees and ask God’s forgiveness. You have spoken lies and usurped Jesus by being the judge and jury of Mikey and all of us at MRFF. You have with your own words condemned many Christians.

Shame!

Oh, and please use spell check the next time you send an email.

Pastor Joan

(1)   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_and_antisemitism

(2)   http://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm

 

 

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