OFFICIAL 2nd MRFF Demand to Col. Sean Killeen, USMC.

Published On: October 12, 2015|Categories: News, Top News|46 Comments|

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Dear Colonel Sean C. Killeen, USMC,

Sir, on behalf of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation’s (MRFF’s) now 72 U.S. Marine clients at MCB Hawaii who are under your direct command, sir, MRFF makes the following additional demands:

In addition to the original 6 religious (or nonreligious) message boards demanded to be immediately approved by you for erection next to the ONLY current such religious message board which you have approved (see MRFF’s September 30, 2015 communication to you), MRFF now makes the 3 supplemental religious message board construction demands below:

(1) On behalf of MRFF’s Church of Satan clients under your command, our clients demand the immediate right to build and display the religious message board appearing in the pictures below which starts with the words “Satan Bless”;

(2) On behalf of MRFF’s Bahá’í Faith clients under your command, our clients demand the immediate right to build and display the religious message board appearing in the pictures below which starts with the words “All-Glorious Bahá Bless”;

(3) On behalf of MRFF’s Jedi Church  clients under your command, our clients demand the immediate right to build and display the religious message board appearing in the pictures below which starts with the words “May The Force Be With”;

**Colonel, please reply to this demand of MRFF’s Church of Satan, Bahá’í Faith and Jedi Church U.S. Marine clients who are under your direct command at MCB Hawaii at your earliest opportunity, sir. 

* *Colonel, should you decide to follow the United States Constitution, and your sworn oath to support and defend it, and immediately move the ONLY current religious message board on display, which begins with the words “God Bless” in the pictures below, and resituate it on the grounds of the chapel on your military installation at MCB Hawaii (or if you decide to simply no longer display that same religious message board at all), then the official demands to immediately display the originally demanded 6 message boards, made as per MRFF’s September 30, 2015 communication to you, as well as the 3 additional message boards who are the subject of this instant communication to you by MRFF on behalf of MRFF’s now 72 USMC clients (under your direct command) as described above, will be likewise immediately withdrawn.

Thank you for your prompt attention to MRFF’s demands, on behalf of its 72 USMC clients under your direct command at MCB Hawaii, and your allegiance to the No Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution as well as the “No Religious Test” mandate of Clause 3, Article VI of that same United States Constitution.

Oh, Colonel, one last thing, sir; just want to make sure here; there’s NO way that you would EVER NOT approve these official MRFF demands for the additional 9 religious (or nonreligious) message boards to be displayed next to the ONLY religious message board that you have currently approved of as per your Friday, October 9, 2015 letter to me, right, Colonel? 

What I just want to be clear about here is, since you’ve officially concluded that the ONLY religious message board you are allowing to be displayed to EVERYONE at MCB Hawaii is, in fact, not “religious” at all, but is merely (and I directly quote from your letter to me here) a “secular symbol of general support and encouragement to military members, their families, and the civilians who work with them”, then you SURELY would NOT EVER deny the very SAME Constitutional (1) freedom of religion and (2) freedom of speech and (3) equal protection civil rights of those 72 U.S. Marines under your direct command who share religious (or nonreligious) faiths OTHER than the ONE FAITH tradition represented in that one “Col. Killeen-approved” religious message board of “secular perfection”, eh, sir? 

Please so confirm to me forthwith that you will NOT, in point of fact, deny these IDENTICAL Constitutional civil rights to our 72 USMC clients under your direct command at MCB Hawaii and that you will immediately approve the construction and display of the 9 additional message board signs which our USMC/MRFF clients desire to display at this SAME specific time and place and in the SAME manner as the ONLY religious (sorry, I meant to say “secular”) message board you have granted these same public display/approval privileges for currently at MCB Hawaii.

Respectfully submitted, 

Michael L. “Mikey” Weinstein, Esq.
Founder and President, MRFF
505-250-772

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  1. Yeshua Warrior October 12, 2015 at 11:16 am

    Hey Mikey,

    Not sure if you have heard the good news, but that sign is not being moved period, according to the Military Times. So, it is time to either take a flying leap to nowhere, take a long walk off a short pier, or put an egg in your shoe and beat it, or make like sheep and get the flock out of here.

    You cannot fight against God Mikey, haven’t you learned that yet, God will always win. Why don’t you just surrender to God and join the winning side.

    As one reserve Marine chaplain and pastor has put, Mikey Weinstein is nothing but a “paper tiger” who hides behind his computer but will not come out to debate anyone publically in a civil orderly debate.

    I like to see Mikey as Simba, a young lion with no teeth and no roar, compared to the Messiah of Israel I serve who has been called the Lion of Judah who roars from Zion!

    So Mikey, whenever you want to yield and surrender, Jesus is waiting for you!

    Blessings!

  2. DaveG October 12, 2015 at 5:24 pm

    YW, I commend your resolve (and Col. Killeen’s, even though he is wrong and violating his commission to defend the Constitution), but your attitude is arrogant and narrow. How can you conclude that your God is any more “real” than the Gods that Mikey’s clients wish to honor?

  3. Connie October 12, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    I love the extra signs MRFF. An added bonus is making the Dominionists heads explode because AH!!! SATAN!!!! Yep. Well, that and their absolute failure at understanding the Constitution and Bill of Rights of these United States of America. If one is included then all must be included. The area where the original sign is located is going to be REALLY crowded.

    I know you will keep doing what you do – how can you not? Even if each of you at MRFF stepped away from this particular battle you will find injustice to combat. I know this because you all are warriors in the fight for our country. Thank you so very much for your service.

  4. Connie October 12, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    DaveG,

    YW is an Evangelical – a person who believes the USA was founded to be a Christian nation, despite all the evidence to the contrary. When faced with facts YW has in the past blissfully ignored them while spewing his proselytizing, doubling down when shown to be incorrect because “Jesus is Coming Soon!!! (trademark pending).

    Good luck to you if he deigns to give you logic. He’s ignored my questions and been dismissive of my professed faith in Thor (go Odin, eliminator of Ice Giants). He doesn’t seem to understand that everyone has the right to believe as they see fit. In his opinion, only HIS idea of faith is the correct one. At least that has been my experience. Perhaps he will treat you better. Good luck. :)

  5. John Schuster October 12, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    Asking for fairness makes the dominionists squirm. And that’s a GOOD thing!

    Dominionism is a form of insanity predicated on “Jesus returning”. As an atheist I don’t believe “he” was ever here in the first place, but i digress. Independent of that, now putting a dominionist anywhere near a nuke’s launch button is a really BAD IDEA. They just cannot be trusted.

  6. DaveG October 12, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    Connie, have you stored plenty of mead for Ragnarok?

    Skål!

  7. Yeshua Warrior October 12, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    First of all, there will be no more signs on the place, only that one sign, nor matter how much Mikey threatens, his bark is worse than it’s bite.

    Connie, whether you want to believe it or not, Jesus is coming back, when He is good and ready to. He said it, I believe it, that settles it. He will not come back until His chosen people (Jews) are fully back in their land and ready to acknowledge Him as their one and only Messiah, like Mikey needs to do. He is waiting until all the chess pieces are in place so that He can then pour out His wrath on all of mankind’s sins and those who persecuted His people(Jews) for the last 2000 years! Also if you truly believe there is a Thor, then you are more insane than I am. It takes more faith to believe there is a Thor, no god at all, than it does believe that there is a God.

    John, oh yes, Jesus did exist, there are more historical evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ than there is of Caesar Augustis. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus wrote in his work “Antiquities of the Jews” in the first century wrote of Jesus of Nazareth. I have never met a Jew who has denied the existence of Jesus!

    I am use to being not liked so your comments do not bother me. Yes I am an evangelical, which is problem to MRFF and to many mainline protestant churches, I am also a Charismatic, so many Baptists call me a heretic because I speak in tongues and believe in divine healing and casting out demons, I am a Christian Zionist, so pro-Palestinian Christians feel I am an abomination to God because I support Israel and believe that the land of Israel totally belongs to them, which by the way it does!

    Jesus said you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free, will He has set me free by His Truth. I can say no to sin because His Spirit resides inside me unlike pagans who cannot say no to sin.

  8. G October 12, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    If God always win, well I don’t see it at all with all the poverty in this world and people dying from lack of adequate wages, lack of affordable/free healthcare and education, little or no job security, etc. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

  9. G October 12, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    God wins? Yeah, so why is the Devil is still around creating evil all over the place? He must be real good at being a locksmith in plying the doors of Hell anytime he wants to come and goes as he pleases. I don’t see God shutting the doors of Hell permanently.

  10. G October 12, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    “First of all, there will be no more signs on the place, only that one sign, nor matter how much Mikey threatens, his bark is worse than it’s bite.”

    Of really YM, Mr. Weinstein’s bite is far worse than his bark. I would not like to be the Christian that get bitten on the rear end of Francis of Assisi.

    “John, oh yes, Jesus did exist, there are more historical evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ than there is of Caesar Augustis. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus wrote in his work “Antiquities of the Jews” in the first century wrote of Jesus of Nazareth.

    Oh really, I went to a religious school and was never told about all this historical evidence. Instead, all I got was the Bible teaching about the life of Jesus, so where is the historical evidence that you are talking about since it should have been already been introduced into the religious schools hundreds for years ago?

  11. LagunaJim October 13, 2015 at 1:44 am

    It may take some time, but I’m quite sure the courts will slap down the Marine who thinks his signs aren’t going to be removed.

  12. Zelda October 13, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    You people are the most despicable of all creatures. First of all, anyone that knows the way that Satan operates, knows the serpent doesn’t “bless” anyone. Blessings are from the divine grace of heavenly realm, not lower realms you fools so stop playing your head games regarding Satan. Satanists know this too. And the fact you guys are so demonic that you are even trying to bring Satan on the bases is messing with the occult and I’d be careful in that regard. The spirits have a way of shifting their energies quickly.
    P. S. Proud to say oath taken; SO HELP ME GOD.

  13. Zelda October 13, 2015 at 12:31 pm

    p.s. Military bases, let them make their “demands”: all they want. They are not about religious freedom at all and are just trying to hijack the constitution for their malicious ways. Hang the signs proudly that say SO HELP ME GOD and anyone that chose not to take the full and legal oath, oh well for them, that’s how it’s written and if it makes them that uncomfortable that their fellow brothers of the seal are proud to proclaim, it, let them leave. My feeling is this hateful act that MRFF is undertaking was not eve originated on base or by soldiers, but by them on their diabolical mission to try to desecrate the preamble and the full and legal oath: SO HELP ME GOD.

  14. Zelda October 13, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    P.S.S. stop deleting all the pro faith posts or you are proving that you are in facta bunch of phoney lying serpents that are not displaying an open forum for all military members to engage in religious freedom and dialogue.

    AGAIN: PROUD TO PROCLAIM; OATH TAKEN: SO HELP ME GOD.

  15. MelissaMontoya October 13, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    @YW ~ Um, I still see poverty and death (the stuff the abrahamic god promised to do away with) but I do not see any Ice Giants ANYWHERE (the stuff Odin promised to do away with), so pardon me for asking, but why do you think the abrahamic god is winning or real, exactly…?

    P.S. All you heathens need to repent and take up sauce in our heavenly father’s name!
    ~ Ramen

  16. MelissaMontoya October 13, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    @ Zelda ‘ Crazy Lady’ ~ If you are still wearing a uniform you need to turn it in. Your behavior is unbecoming of an officer.

    P.S. All posts are still visible. Nothing has been deleted, you may want to talk to your doctor about Elevated Serotonin and its link to schizophrenia.</B.

    Best of luck Zelda…? <3

  17. Yeshua Warrior October 13, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Melissa, please tell me where in the bible it says that the Abrahamic God has to do away with poverty and death? Also, please tell me where it says that He has to do anything for us? He is not some cosmic bell boy who must respond to our every whim and desire, He is the Creator, we are the creation. We worship Him, not the other way around.

  18. Connie October 15, 2015 at 12:35 am

    YW – as a pastor if you’d been doing your job correctly there would be no more poor. Or do the words of YOUR book mean nothing to you?

    I googled Jesus, Bible, and poverty. Below is just a fraction of what I found. You are a lazy believer YW.

    Ps. 140:12. I know that the LORD will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and justice for the poor.
    Deut. 15:7. If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.
    Luke 12:33. “Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys.”
    Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, “Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise.”

    May FSM’s noodly appendages bless and feed you. :) Ramen.

  19. John October 15, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    YES, so get the government out of the way and let those in the church do their work and not have to spend all the time fighting for their constitutional rights.

  20. Connie October 15, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    John,

    What constitutional rights do you think you are fighting for? As I see it The Church (no matter what the flavor) has failed humanity by focusing on the messenger rather than the message.

    The wisest minds of the new world got together to prevent exactly what you want to unleash upon the country. I say lets give the government a chance to address the issue of taking care of its citizens without the dogma of religion to muck things up.

  21. Carol Jones October 16, 2015 at 7:29 am

    I think everyone of you are missing the mark here. The signs are only representations of the Big Government trying to tell us what we can and cannot say, and can or cannot do and infringing on our religious beliefs. The Constitution give us the right to openly express our opinions and religious beliefs. Period. Mikey Weinstein is blaspheming all religions by putting up these signs. He needs to be sent to Syria and fight on the front lines. Instead, he hides behind cheap talk. What a “weenie”!!!

  22. Snake October 16, 2015 at 8:11 am

    He can simply suck a di.k and die.

  23. Michael Brown October 16, 2015 at 9:08 am

    “Mikey” is a private citizen and a bully. I don’t care about his opinion, everybody has one. I say to my brothers in the USMC, treat him like we treat all bullies. Ignore him until it is time to stomp him.

  24. Butch Chism October 16, 2015 at 9:40 am

    What a shame to think that the taxpayers funded this guy’s education. He expresses his gratefulness by trying to tear down the institution hat educated him. And, it is obvious he detests those he served with.

  25. Ron October 16, 2015 at 11:36 am

    So, maybe I’m mislead here, but it seems to me that if the framers of the constitution really intended there to be no reference to religion by their government, they wouldn’t have put it in, say the Declaration. Constitution, ost of their speeches given in that time, etc. They didn’t often reference a specific denomination, but God was all up in everything they did and said. A vague “God bless our troops” likely would not have caused any loss of sleep.

  26. keith October 16, 2015 at 11:49 am

    Its amazing how the wealthiest nation in the world became the brokest nation in the world (based on the size of our national debt) from the time the government decided to remove God, prayer, and his word. Before the mid-sixies even our dimes and quarters were made from silver. In WW II we used silver wiring in construction. There was no national debt except what was owed to the United States by the world. Also our schools produced one of the finest educations in the world and now we are down near the bottom compared to the world’s schools.

  27. TR Anderson October 16, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    I agree with Carol Jones – send Mikey Weinie to the front lines in any foreign country so he can think about what to do next. Let our people in the military that are protecting our lives have more “voice” then him. I am so sick and tired of us bending to his wishes – get out of our faces Mikey.

  28. Chaplain Dale Iannello October 16, 2015 at 2:06 pm

    The first amendment in the Constitution states: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    As far as I know, Mr. Weinstein is not on the rolls of Congress. Since Mr. Weinstein has tried to set himself up a member of Congress by influencing Colonel Killeen to make signs for “Satan”, “Star Wars”, et. al., thereby attempting to establish a religion, he should be prosecuted by Congress for impersonating a member of this prestigious body of gentlemen. Since it is Colonel Killeen’s express right under this amendment for free exercise of religion, speech and press, Mr. Weinstein has no right to make Colonel Killeen do anything. Did Colonel Killeen state which “god” is doing the blessing? (By the way, Satan is not a god, he is a fallen angel).

    The second amendment states: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Here in the second amendment we see that “A well regulated Milita” is a necessity! Since Colonel Killeen is in charge of this regulation (ask any Marine and they will tell you) then it is entirely up to Colonel Killeen how things are run. If he says black is blue, then you had better believe him! Please read again the end of this amendment. It states, “shall not be infringed.” Mr. Weinstein is actually infringing on Colonel Killeen’s regulation of his Marines! Mr. Weinstein owes Colonel Killeen an apology at the least.

    Mr. Weinstein needs to “petition the Government for a redress of grievances” as the first amendment states is his right. However, Mr. Weinstein must never, ever do anything to infringe on Colonel Killeen’s regulation of his Marines! Remember Mr. Weinstein who is actually fighting for your Constitutional rights! It is certainly not you!

    Semper Fidelis
    Pro Deo et Patria

  29. Yeshua Warrior October 16, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    Semper FI Chaplain!! Great message!!

    Son, nephew, brother, and cousin of former Marines, Ooh Rah! They would have no problem putting a boot to Mikey’s neck!

  30. Chaplain Dale Iannello October 16, 2015 at 2:27 pm

    Thank you Yeshua Warrior and thanks to your family for their service to our country! Have a blessed day!
    Yours in Christ!

  31. Chaplain Dale Iannello October 16, 2015 at 3:05 pm

    To clarify my statement of Mr. Weinstein not fighting for our Constitutional rights, I mean not presently. Mr. Weinstein did serve in the Air Force in the JAG corps. As for being on the front lines or in harm’s way (as I have), his profile doesn’t say. Since you did serve Mr. Weinstein, you should know better. You may know secular law, but I know the law of God in heaven. At the great white throne judgement, we will see who is in the right at the sentencing hearing. If you would like some “discovery” on the subject, you can find a complete transcript of events in the Bible. Just look in the back…it’s called the book of Revelation. I’ll pray for you!

  32. Yeshua Warrior October 16, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    Chaplain Iannello,

    Thanks for your strong stand on scripture. I just wanted to share with you about Marines in my family. My father was part of the ground crew VMF-112 Wolfpack on Guadalcanal Island in 1942! My uncle his brother retired a Lt.Col. from the Marines, my brother and cousin both served in Vietnam, and my other uncle was an Air Force bombardier aboard B-24’s in the Pacific of WWII. All the men in my family were discharged with honorable discharges and all served with distinction and honor, something I do not think Mikey or his family truly understands!

  33. Connie October 16, 2015 at 11:53 pm

    I’m going out on a limb here to say neither Chaplain Iannello nor Yeshua Warrior are well versed in the Constitution. Pastor Joan has laid out many arguments as to why the Military can either recognize any faith or none at all. And for the kids playing at home, none at all is not acknowledging Atheism over Religion. It means keeping the subject off the table completely.

    This idea that “God’s” law is primary over secular has been around for millenia. It’s time to scrap that idea as history has proven how ineffective it is as a ruling system.

    I don’t expect either gentlemen to admit they are wrong as they are both died in the wool, bathed in the blood of Christ, On Fire! Christians. Of course in my book that eliminates both from having a seat at any table where compromise and adult conversations need to take place. As I’ve stated before – YW and the folks he approves of do not want to share the USA with anyone who doesn’t share their exact belief set. It is too bad then we exist and are not going away. Learn to share or go home gentlemen. It’s that easy.

  34. BJ October 17, 2015 at 2:44 am

    I’m a woman of God & am personally very thankful I’m not Ms. Connie with her venomous views…enuf said! I’ll pray for you.

  35. Connie October 17, 2015 at 8:33 am

    BJ – Not sure how sharing is considered venomous but OK . I’ll pray for you as well. Blessed Be.

  36. Yeshua Warrior October 17, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Connie,

    Once again, I have no problem with someone being Catholic, Jewish, Mormon, atheist, Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, it is just that Jesus, not me, stated that He is the only way to heaven and none other, all other religions will lead someone to destruction so don’t shoot the messenger! Jesus also said that “there is no under name under heaven by which men can be saved” but only the name Yeshua or Jesus!

    God’s law does always trump man’s law, and when Christ does return, He will set up His law on the earth, which means our Constitution and every other countries constitutions will become invalid and void.

    Christ died for all mankind whatever they believe but hope that they would choose His free gift of salvation paid for by His own blood on a Roman cross, so that no man would have to end up in hell for all eternity.

  37. Connie October 17, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    YW – your deity commanded you to pray in private and to be known for your deeds. As you do to the least of me you do to me.

    Did I get that right? See I too studied religion for many years. No papers. In fact I eschew degrees as they prove you spent money; not that you learned anything. But I digress.

    This is not the first time you threaten me with your hell. Honestly I wish you would come up with something different. I’ve been to your hell. Repeatedly. I’ve been thrown out and asked not to return as I glow too much. Hurts the eyes I guess. So. Here we are.

    Reality check. I’m not to shoot the messenger (YW) because his deity says I’m damned to hell and by the way I also need to be stoned because of the way I was born. And I’m right an the rest of you are wrong.

    YW – I don’t want to take your faith away from you. But if you can’t get it through your head the advantages of co-existing then you will destroy yourselves.

    On the path to avoid our fate we often find it. Peace and blessed be.

  38. Teri October 17, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    Dear Connie, Obviously you’ve been wounded on so many levels and we can all identify with the brutality of humanity-just look what they did to Jesus. He was beaten until unrecognizable as a human. Albeit and back on subject, where do you think the “secular” originated? The Ten Commandments

  39. Yeshua Warrior October 17, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    Connie,

    Jesus did not mean we are to only pray in our closets and the Apostle Paul said we are to pray without ceasing. Christians, we can pray anywhere we desire, I pray in my car sometimes on my way to work, sometimes I pray in my cubicle at work but not out loud of course, sometimes I pray over the phone with someone sometimes in public.

    I am not sure I am threatening you with hell and no God does not send anyone to hell, we send ourselves there, He allows us to make the choice whether we want to go there or not. Pretty cut and dry.

    You say that my deity says that we are to stone you because of the way you are born, am I to presume that you are gay Connie? If so, there is no scientific evidence or genetic evidence that someone is born gay, and far as stoning gays, that was only a law God gave to the Israelites while they were in the desert also known as the Mosaic Law which no longer applies today, and besides, the same law also calls for those caught in adultery as well to be stoned, so God is not singling out gay people here.

    Blessings!

  40. JB283510 October 18, 2015 at 6:49 am

    George Washington stated the two pillars of the country are religion and morality. 52 of the signing members of the Declaration of Independence were professed Christians. The Puritians and the Pilgrams came to the New World for religious freedom…Christianity was their religion. Thomas Jefferson put a warning label on the Koran when he in introduced it to the Congressional library to better understand the Barbary pirates. We only focus on negative aspects of our country’s founding, not the incredible sacrifices our service members made from our Independence until today. Let’s not take it for granted.

    Islam….Shari’a is coming to the US. IS has declared a holy war…..this is nothing new…the caliphate ruled Islam for almost 1400 years until 1923 when Turkey ended it. 3/4s of Muslims support Sharia law. Which calls for death to non-believers, homosexuals, and to anyone who denies the profit..outside of specific conditions. Let’s pray for America to unite in love. Let’s pray for all Americans but let us not forget how hard it was to build this place.

  41. Bob Justice October 19, 2015 at 5:54 am

    You can pray all you want but your prayers will all go unanswered because your deity is imaginary. The Constitution is real. The government cannot favor one religion over another. Those signs have to come down, otherwise, I want to ensure that the atheists who serve get to put their sign right next to the “God” signs on that base.

  42. We agree on all gods but your's October 19, 2015 at 7:57 am

    Moving it to chapel property won’t solve the problem either. The chapel is supposed to remain 100% non-theology specific except when in use by a specific theology. All the christian accouterments need to be packed away between services; all the muslin accouterments need to be packed away between services, etc.

    So, if the billboard is moved to the chapel. Ba’i, Jedi, Satanist, Jain, Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, FSM, atheist, etc. troops could all request billboards to be erected on chapel grounds. Same problem, just a more appropriate location.

  43. Wzrd1 October 22, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    A far simpler way to lawfully handle this is to place the billboards inside of the chapel in banner form.
    Even so, the officer who ordered the signs placed in contravention of our first amendment should lose his commission. If commissions are lost, we’ll see compliance with the Constitution that those officers swore to uphold and defend.

  44. jcmmanuel October 24, 2015 at 5:44 am

    The “There is no God to bless the military” I thought was a joke. But it appears not, so it must be a “Dawkins was here” (or a “new atheism was here”) case. Instead of proposing something like “Goodness bless the military”, all they come up with is being the only ones with a negative introduction “There is no God to bless the military…”. Geeez. I’m atheist but I think this should really be registered as “Atheist London busses syndrome” or something. Atheism was not supposed to be a plea for narcissism.

  45. G October 30, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    Chaplain Dale Iannello and Yeshua Warrior:

    It is not Mickey Weinstein’s fault that he did not see combat since there was no war fought by the USA between 1975 and 1990. Secondly, how many JAG lawyers fought in America’s wars?

  46. G October 30, 2015 at 4:56 pm

    “I googled Jesus, Bible, and poverty. Below is just a fraction of what I found. You are a lazy believer YW.”

    Dear Connie:

    I love the way you found all those Bible verses regarding the poor people. YW and all those religious leaders are a bunch of corrupt, lazy leaders like the Pharisees in the Bible and in real life.

    Well done.

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