FOX21 – Group calls Fort Carson symbol “unconstitutional”

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  1. wesker

    You guys have nothing better to do than this???? My feeling is that you’ve invented these “42 members” of the Army much as you invented plaintiffs for your failed suit against the Air Force when the judge threw out your case because no actual plaintiffs could be found aside from you guys. What’s next..a campaign to rename the USS City of Corpus Christi??? OHHHH the HORROR!!! a sub with Christ’s name attached to it..the Muslims will hate us more than they do now and sensitive sailors will feel all ookey anduncomfortable when they serve on the sub.

  2. befuddled

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    I would be interested to know where in the constitution it states that a religous symbol cannot be displayed on any type of government building.

  3. tim

    i see the previous two commentors have found a new place where the sun doesn’t shine. it’s time to wake up to the real world, not the one painted by your church leaders. YES, THE REST OF US LIVE IN THIS REAL WORLD. WE ARE NOT CRAZY LIKE YOU, AND WE ARE NOT EVIL. WE ARE AMERICANS, JUST NOT MEMBERS OF YOUR CHURCH (thankfully).
    you can have your beliefs. just keep them in your house or in your church. YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO FORCE YOUR BELIEFS ON THE REST OF THE WORLD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR BIBLE SAYS.
    thank you mrff for doing the dirty work to fight these morons.

  4. Ernesto

    Actually Tim, an American citizen can preach at will in public as part of their first amendment rights. What the government can’t do is endorse one religion over another. Now, the military is its own separate issue.

  5. Alan

    Yes, the Son does shine here…

    I’ll endorse Ernesto’s comments and more. In multiple drafts of the first amendment the word ‘denomination’ was used instead of ‘religion.’ This and other original documents show that the founding fathers assumed that Christianity would be widely observed and practiced in this country, but did not wish to endorse/force a specific denomination of Christianity.

    John Adams noted that “… Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

    And who is writing about forcing “beliefs on the rest of the world”? Bear in mind that if we American citizens are not “endowed by their [our] Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” our government can take any and all of them away when they become unpopular or inconvenient.

    Our religious foundations and heritage undergird the legal system that protects all of our rights and privileges.

  6. Rob

    It’s true that the Constitution only forbids Congress from respecting a particular religion. If you want to get into the intent of the founding fathers though, Thomas Jefferson made it very clear that he did not want the government and religion getting in cahoots with each other. Contrary to what a lot of commentators like to say, the founding fathers were not particularly Christian men. Jefferson was borderline Atheist, Thomas Paine was outright Atheist, and most of the other major figures could be described as Deists rather than Christians.

    I could put up with the “for God and Humanity” slogan, but not when it is accompanied by the cross. That makes it clear that they are referring to a very specific God.

  7. Mary Alice

    The cross needs to go.

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