Where’s religious freedom for us that beleive in Jesus?  who are you anti-american pieces of garbage?  you sure don’t
know about the believes of the founding fathers.  you’re nothing but libs that can’t get recognized for anything on merit!

(name withheld)

Oh, (name withheld), get a grip, please.
We’re perfectly happy to protect the religious freedom of those who believe in Jesus. In fact, over 95% of the members and supporters of the MRFF are Christians. Some of them are clergy. And since you mention Jesus, how do you suppose he feels about you calling people you don’t know anything about “anti-american (sic) pieces of garbage”?

As to what we know about “the believes (sic)” of the founding fathers, it’s pretty clear that you know a lot less. You might read up a bit on Jefferson’s term, “separation of church and state.” Heard of it? You’ll find that “the believes (sic)” of the founding fathers led to a nation that protects the right of every person to her or his own free choice of religious belief. And that free choice includes non-belief if one desires.
See, we don’t care what people believe; we care that people have the right to the belief of their choice.
So take deep breath and try being a Christian.
Best,Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)

 Dear (name withheld),

I have a dream.  I have a dream where one day Christian Americans can proudly wear the sign of their religion in public without shame.  I have a dream of an America where one day the assumption upon meeting an American is that they are Christian.  I have a dream that one day Christians are not only free to gather in the name of their religion, but are free to order others to gather in the name of religion.  I have a dream of an America where senior commanding officers consistently disparage their non-Christian subordinates because Christianity has so much power in this country that violations of the Constitution in the name of Jesus are overlooked.

Sorry, substitute dreams for memories, or awareness of the current situation and you’ll have it nailed.  Your religious freedom ends when the freedom of others begins.


Your friendly neighborhood “anti-american piece of garbage

Dear (name withheld),

Mikey is very busy helping our soldiers and asked me to respond to you.

I am so sorry that you have been made to act un-Christ-like because you have been deceived by the media spewing outright lies about the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).

We are not an atheist organization nor are we anti-Christian. Mikey is Jewish and 75% of the Board, Advisory Board, volunteers and supporters of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) are Christians. In fact, 96% of our 40,000+ soldier clients (1 can represent 50 and 1 does represent 100) are Christians. So, we fight for the rights of Christians more than any other religion.

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) does NOT act on its own but on the request of soldiers’ complaints of the blatant disregard and trampling of the Constitution and the Uniform Code of Military Justice; blurring the lines between the separation of church and state. Every complaint is vetted by Mikey who was a JAG lawyer at the Air Force Academy for 10 years; worked in the West Wing under Ronald Reagan; and held positions in private practice.

We are an agent- intermediator – for the soldiers whose valid complaints are not heard. When the military oversteps the bounds laid down by our Constitution and military law, we step in.

In the civilian world, you are free to believe in Jesus, go to church, proselytize to non-Christians and celebrate all of the Christian holidays but in the military (which is a government entity and secular) one cannot usurp the Establishment Clause of the Constitution and the Supreme Court ruling in favor of the Establishment Clause concerning the Lemon v. Kurtzman case in 1971.

The Parker v. Levy case decided on June 19, 1974, defined under the Uniform Code of Military Justice that “the military constitutes a specialized community governed by a separate discipline from that of the civilian…”

The rules that apply to the military do not apply to you or other Christians as civilians.

I don’t know here you read the story concerning the poster, but if you read the Army Times you would have seen the following:

The poster, which features a Special Forces patch along with Ranger, Airborne and Special Forces tabs, includes “a stock image” the command makes available for local recruiters, spokesman Brian Lepley said in an email, “but the text was changed by the local recruiting personnel” and not cleared by command headquarters.

Had the process been followed, the copy shown would not have been approved, Lepley said.

“Local recruiting offices order such display materials online, Lepley said, and the orders are filled by Accessions Support Brigade. An ASB catalog shows a similar image available as a sandwich board, with the tagline, “We don’t call for reinforcements. We make them.”

There are instructions in the catalog on how to tailor some materials to suit a local audience, but the wording on the Phoenix poster isn’t listed as one of 47 taglines that cover a variety of products.

Army Recruiting Command is investigating who ordered and/or approved the display, Lepley said.

The recruiter overstepped the bounds of the acceptable wordings on the poster and without the approval of his Command. Under the UCMJ he must be investigated and punished according to the rules and regulations that he must obey.

We do know what the Founding Fathers believed.

The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian Religion.” 1797, The Treaty of Tripoli, initiated by President Washington, signed by President John Adams, and approved by the Senate of the United States

… I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Thomas Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists, January 1, 1802

The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses. John Adams “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America, 1787-88

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries. James Madison, c. 1803
God has appointed two kinds of government in the world, which are distinct in their nature, and ought never to be confounded together; one of which is called civil, the other ecclesiastical government.” Founding Father Isaac Backus, An Appeal to the Public for Religious Liberty, 1773
There are many more quotes by the Founding Fathers that show that America was NOT founded as a Christian nation.
I suggest you do a little more research on articles you read before firing off a missive that lacks facts and truth.
Pastor Joan
MRFF Advisory Board Member

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