Head Stone

Published On: June 6, 2021|Categories: MRFF's Inbox|2 Comments|

Are you some kind of inbred retard?  Its a private plot moron…..go cowtown over someone else.  Its vermin like you that pisses everyone off.  Pull your tongue over your head and swallow so we dont have to listen to idiots like you

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On Sunday, June 6, 2021, 3:51:50 PM CDT, (name withheld) wrote:

first of all show me in the constitution where it says you can’t be offended?  If they are offended that’s on them…hence the phrase (I’m offended)….secondly the separation of church and state is NO WHERE in our constitution period…now the USA has borrowed it from the soviets…..(The Church is separated from the State. Within the territory of the Republic, it is forbidden to pass any local laws or regulations which would restrain or limit the freedom of conscience or which would grant special rights or privileges on the basis of the religious confession of citizens.)….our founding was based upon Judeo Christian values and sorry but u can’t re-write history…even the founders that were not Christians still believed in a higher power.  USA Isn’t a communist state yet but it’s damn close and it ppl and organizations like urs that do more harm than good. 

(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere

On Jun 6, 2021, at 3:20 PM, John Compere wrote:

It is fact, history & law our nation was not founded on religion. The 1791 Treaty of Tripoli, an international legal document, confirmed to the world “…the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion…”. Negotiated during 1st President George Washington’s administration, the treaty was unanimously ratified by the US Senate & signed by 2nd President John Adams. The American Counsel to Algiers, Joel Barlow (Revolutionary War chaplain & Washington appointee) negotiated the treaty, co-authored & signed the Arabic version abroad during Washington’s presidency. Barlow also authored the English version unanimously ratified & signed in the US during Adam’s presidency. We were the 1st nation in history to be founded by and for “We the People” (Constitution Preamble) with no acknowledgement of dependency on a higher authority (emperor, monarch, dictator, deity, religion, scripture, etc). Case closed – end of discussion.

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

On Jun 7, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Mike wrote:

(name withheld),

A thoughtful person might find out what’s at issue before exposing himself as a complete fool. I guess that’s just not your way.

Mike Farrell(MRFF Board of Advisors)

From: (name withheld)
Subject: Re: Head Stone
Date: June 7, 2021 at 11:40:48 PM MDT

Yes John the first ever mention of separation of church and state was in a letter from Jefferson as was designed to keep the gov. From using the church as a weapon…Sorry but ur history is lacking this country at its core was and is nothing but an idea…at its core it is still just an idea about freedom and being left alone by the government to live your life as you choose.  This country was founded on christian values right from the beginning with the mayflower compact the pre-cursor to the constitution…it was 100 percent founded on idea’s and a certain morality that is based upon scripture.  They even built a monument upon the principles that if we ever loose our way all we have to do is look upon it and we can find our way back. if you think im blowing hot air go look up Gov. Willam Bradfords speech in and around 1630 to 1650 no one is really sure when it was written.  He was pretty explicit about what made this “America” great!  
Adams wrote to Rush following the Pinto attacks and Adams vigorously defended the Christian against the attack brought on by Paine. 
He [Thomas Paine] understood neither government nor religion. . . . His billingsgate [vile and vulgar attack] . . . will never discredit Christianity, which will hold its ground in some degree as long as human nature shall have anything moral or intellectual left in it. The Christian religion. . . . will last as long as the world. Neither savage nor civilized man without a revelation could ever have discovered or invented it. Ask me not, then, whether I am a Catholic or Protestant, Calvinist or Arminian. As far as they are Christians, I wish to be a fellow-disciple with them all.I can provide you with plenty more quotes and facts from our founders if you would like that disprove your basis that this nation was “not” founded on Christian principles is absurd. 

Oh Mike you can draw what ever conclusion you want to doesn’t hurt my feelings…im not easily offended…only week and inept ppl get offended.  See we have an great country (mostly for now) but we will always the non-producers and the degenerates (those lead by how they feel)…the non producers;  life is hard for them, belly aching and moping as if it was someone else’s reason they are in life where they are.  As I tell the bums on the street…look back on the decisions that you made over the last 50 years and you can draw a map as to why your holding down this corner…its no one else fault but your own.  Cause and effect.  Time for ppl to grow up…if ur offended thats (your) personal problem not my problem.

(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere

On Jun 8, 2021, at 11:34 AM, John Compere wrote:

Your absurd & asinine attempt to deny & revise our history is not worthy of serious consideration. For example, the concept of separation of church & state originated with European Enlightenment philosophers such as John Locke, et al. History documents American Founders were students & supporters of the Enlightenment. One of the first Americans to use the term & advocate “separation of church and state” was Roger Williams (founder of Rhode Island Colony, co-founder of the first Baptist Church in America, colonial clergy, author & religious freedom advocate, 1603-1683). His best known & most referenced book, “The Bloudy Tenet of Persecution for Cause of Conscience”(1644), is recommended for your enlightenment. The writings of Thomas Paine, an American founder, are also recommended.

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  1. Ron June 11, 2021 at 10:12 am

    There is nothing wrong with this monument. It is a private grave and they are allowed to put what they want on the marker. Nothing about challenge coins says they can not be put on a grave marker. No where in the constitution does it say anything about seperation of church and state. What that means is that the government can not say there will only be one religion. That was what was going on in England and Europe so people came here to practice there religion and to find a counrty where they can do it. The town had nothing to do with what the scout troop put on the marker. Since you are against religion then why do you let something like this bother you if you do not believe or think it might be true. The kid wanted to honor his grandfather and his father and yet you want to be the big bad bully and try and stop them. If the challenge coins was a problem the military would have said something. I feel sorry for your kids if you have any at Christmas time.

  2. Jeff June 11, 2021 at 1:00 pm

    Ron: the principle author of the first amendment did not agree with your interpretation of it. He said it requires the total separation of religion and government. That’s why it was worded as it was. It prohibits establishment of religion – not just establishment of one religion over others. Try reading it carefully.

    And try looking up a little info about Hanukkah, which is the Jewish holiday that occurs regularly around what you called “Christmas time.”

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