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July 7, 2009

Mikey,

So you anti-white anti-christian sheenie monkey, what do you pay yourself as president of your phonie tax dodging foundation? Typical yid money scheme. It would be interesting to see who your "contributors" are, wouldn't it? Why dont you reveal the directors' compensation?

[name withheld]


June 29, 2009

Mikey Weinstein,

What kind of jew are you? A racial jew? A religious jew? An ethnic jew? A jew is a jew no matter where he is in the world. World jewry, they proclaim it proudly. So just because you have a social security number doesn't make you one of my countrymen. You apply your low-minded intellect to the task of creating a Christian bogeyman in the military. Instead you need to own up to the misery created by Zionism in all its forms. More pearls before swine

[name withheld]

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June 28, 2009

Dear MRFF,

I just watched a video with your founder proselytizing on the constitutionality of religion in america specifically the military. I have to say, I am very disappointed that an organization like yours that advocates religious freedom would then argue why those religious freedoms should be taken away based on your very weak interpretation of our Constitution. I would suggest and encourage your founder and your staff to do your homework before espousing your belief. One can certainly have an opinion, just make sure you know what your talking about before you give it.

There is no such thing as "separation of church and state". Why your founder continues to use this phrase is suspect. This phrase was used as a metaphor in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to the Danberry Baptists concerning the the thanksgiving holiday. NOWHERE in the Constitution does it suggest or imply that the state should be separated from the church. Regarding religion, the Constitution says is:

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
The state cannot "establish" an institution of religion for the people. Pretty clear to me

prohibiting the free exercise thereof; The state CANNOT prevent a person from exercising his right to express his belief.

It does NOT say unless you are a "Christian" or "in the military"

I would also like to point out that the officers and enlisted men that claim to be "christians" and harassing their subordinates, are a far cry from what a christian is supposed to be. I would submit that they show evidence that they are not "christian" at all.

The government is supposed to protect the peoples inalienable rights that were granted to us by God. The founders knew this and was part of the Declaration of Independence.

Some additional evidences that indicate Christian Theism was the national doctrinal religion are listed below:

  • Emblazoned over the Speaker of the House in the US Capitol are the words "In God We Trust."
  • The Supreme Court building built in the 1930's has carvings of Moses and the Ten Commandments.
  • God is mentioned in stone all over Washington D.C., on its monuments and buildings.
  • As a nation, we have celebrated Christmas to commemorate the Savior's birth for centuries.
  • Oaths in courtrooms have invoked God from the beginning.
  • The founding fathers often quoted the Bible in their writings.
  • Every president that has given an inaugural address has mentioned God in that speech.
  • Prayers have been said at the swearing in of each president.
  • Each president was sworn in on the Bible, saying the words, "So help me God."
  • Our national anthem mentions God.
  • The liberty bell has a Bible verse engraved on it.
  • The original constitution of all 50 states mentions God.
  • Chaplains have been in the public payroll from the very beginning.
  • Our nations birth certificate, the Declaration of Independence, mentions God four times.
  • The Bible was used as a textbook in the schools

I know that my e-mail will not change anything with regard to how your organization operates or how your over zealous founder sensationalizes these issues in public. I will pray for him and ask God to open his eyes and his heart to start standing up for what God and the founder's originally had intended.

God Bless

[name withheld]


July 1, 2009

There are many who talk the talk, but when the time comes, they don't walk the walk. Then, there are those whose entire life is spent in service to those ideas, and ideals, that are larger than themselves. Mikey Weinstein is one whose life has been in service of the greater good, and justice.. Not since the inception of this great republic has the separation of church and state faced greater challenges. Check out the good work MRFF is doing to insure that members of the US military have right to practice religion guaranteed them by the First Amendment...

[name withheld]


July 1, 2009

Veterans for Common Sense

Good job, Mikey.

VCS will post the MOAA interview at VCS. Without a doubt, the unconstitutional activities of a small band of chaplains is actively undermining our military, especially the mental health services soldiers need after fighting in combat.

Our Constitution is very clear: “ … No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.” And that applies to our service members who are Federal employees.

I especially appreciate your comment on the impact of aggressive proselytizing on our combat veterans. While some in the military may see the proselytizing by this band of extremists as a Constitutionally protected nuisance, this group does not believe in our Constitution. Therefore, they are a grave internal threat to our military, the military that defends our Constitution they ignore.

Many veterans that I have personally interviewed and referred to VA mental healthcare have serious crises of faith because they feel misled and betrayed by some proselytizing chaplains. The veterans, when they were soldiers in combat, were sent to chaplains for mental healthcare, often due to the lack of psychologists and psychiatrists on the battlefield, especially during the early part of the Iraq War. Instead of spiritual or psychological assistance, some soldiers were intensely proselytized by some chaplains, and some soldiers converted to extreme views of Christianity.

The proselytizing was a strong and temporary placebo – convincing the soldier to keep pulling the trigger, in this case for Christ in a Crusade against Islam. The long-term spiritual consequences, when the placebo wears off, are absolutely devastating on some of these veterans broken to the core by the lies that sent them to war, the horrors of war, the religious fanatics who kept them fighting, and by a VA sometimes unable to provide prompt and high-quality healthcare and benefits. Those extremists promoting religious war by our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan truly undermine our mission for their personal gain.

VCS strongly agrees with your ending message that our officers need to cut out the bullshit – they need to stop some of these chaplains from abusing their rank and honor of providing spiritual guidance to our combat soldiers. The criminal CFGC, operated out of a garage and without official mainstream church support, must get booted from the military, as they stain the reputation of our nation, our military, and our chaplains and their actions are both reprehensible and unconstitutional.

Best,

Paul Sullivan
Executive Director
Veterans for Common Sense


July 2, 2009

Chris and Mikey,

You two have done an excellent expose on Revs. Ammerman and Linzey and Ammerman's misuse of his influence as an endorser. And you have done very well in publishing your findings. If and when you hear from DoD, would you be kind enough to keep me informed?

I suspect you are having a major impact and are righting some very old wrongs.

Thank you for all that you have done to bring these truths to the light of government and the public's scrutiny.

[name withheld]


July 5, 2009

Mikey,

I just read Jeff Sharlett's article in the May issue of Harper's. It moved me to write to you, especially since the article mentioned that you've received a lot of hate mail. As a Christian minister I want to thank you for your work. I am disgusted by the way "Christianity" is being promoted -and twisted- in the military and at how top brass are using their positions to gain a spotlight in certain church circles. I find militaristic Christianity repugnant. To turn military service into a means of missionary activity abuses both faith and the purpose of the military. Any "witness" they offer is deeply tainted. I can share neither the methods nor the message of those who seem so willing to blend and blur God and America, Christianity and nationalism.

Your focus is insuring religious freedom in the military and maintaining the wall of separation between church/religion and state. Mine is maintaining the integrity of the life and message of the church. I, too, believe in a wall of separation but the constitution is of secondary importance to me. My faith itself demands such a separation for without it the church -and other religious organizations- end up getting subverted by the interests, aims and identity of the state. Those evangelicals in the military who so eagerly seek to "Christianize" the armed services end up Americanizing and to a significant extent de-Christianizing the church.

I wish you the very best in your work. Neither the church nor America needs missionaries in military uniform.

[name withheld]


July 4, 2009

In response to this email:

I would like you to explain to me where in the Constitution you have found a mandated “separation between church and state.” You are promoting a twisted lie and undermining the foundations of this country with your vicious actions. Perhaps you could better serve your faith and your country by helping to defeat the religious and political threats against our nation and its people. Oh wait... apparently you support this destruction. Good luck with that on judgment day!

[name withheld]

Dear [name withheld],

Thank you for your spirited communication to MRFF and Mr. Weinstein. Your patriotism is commendable albeit somewhat misplaced.

Mr. Weinstein would prefer to answer your E-mail personally but
the Military Religious Freedom Foundation is currently swamped with complaints from our young men and women in the armed forces and service academies.

These young people, mostly Christians themselves, are being coercively proselytized by elements of the Dominion Christian Movement, which is dedicated to the usurping of the American Constitution with intent to replace it with Biblical Law, thereby rendering America a Christian Theocracy. One could not be called "vicious" for protecting these most precious young people from egregious acts of religious hegemony by senior NCO's and Officers.

My name is Richard Baker and I'm a Regional Coordinator for MRFF living in Colorado Springs. I hope to address your concerns and help you understand what the separation of church and state really means.

Let me first tell you that it does not mean that religion should be absent from the American paradigm or that American politicians may not be religious men and women, only that it must take its rightful place in the scope of things as originally conceived by the founders and confirmed by the many US Supreme Court rulings and decisions relating to the First Amendment.

America's great tradition of plurality defines it as a secular nation, in which all religions may flourish but none dominate. This is why, although many of the founders were religious men, no mention of Jesus, Yahweh, Allah, or any other deity is made in the body of the Constitution. It was so that all religions, major and minor and non-belief systems would have total equality under the law. The founders were not shy. If the United States was to be designated by the founders as a "Christian Nation" they would have plainly declared it so.

Some insecure folks think that since Christianity is the majority religion in America, it is the official religion of the United States. But under our constitution, no religion may dominate or be favored above another in America.

To directly answer your question about where the words "Separation of Church and State " appear in the constitution; they don't. Although Thomas Jefferson addressed the issue and advocated a "A wall of separation between church and state," the First, as well as many other of our amendments have had to be interpreted by high courts and Constitutional scholars and their meaning made plain in a number of rulings such as regards school prayer, religion in the military and many other facets.

The Supreme Court has ruled the clause "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" to mean that any division of American government may not be involved in publicly favoring, recommending, elevating, or proselytizing any particular religion. This includes Christianity. This also includes assigning any force in law to Biblical tenets. Therefore any proselytizing which is coercive in nature or that is foisted on anyone by command influence in the military is illegal.

In addition the government may not employ or enforce any provisions that were not written and passed by duly elected officials and made part of civil statute law . So religion, in which non-secular laws originating with a deity or his or her representatives has no jurisdiction and may not be directly used to govern. It must therefore remain separate from secular government.

On the other hand, the "free exercise clause" has been interpreted to mean the free practice of religion. But as you know, with some restrictions.

One may not practice sectarian religion in government owned buildings, schools and military reservations. No human or animal sacrifices may be made. No Class one controlled substances may be ingested during religious ceremonies. Practitioners may not disturb the peace, forcibly require attendance to services or coercively proselytize without the subjects permission. No sectarian prayers can be recited in schools or in assemblies where people of differing beliefs may be required to attend. And no government official may sponsor or take part in any sectarian public religious ceremony.

This is accepted as a separation between religion and government, each having it's own area of influence. An example of a government with no separation of church and state would be church run governments such as Islamic Republics. I'm sure the difference is readily discernible. When an Islamic Ayatollah can overrule the popular elected president of Iran, there is no democracy. I'm sure you wouldn't want Pat Robertson or the Pope telling you what to do.

Religion is a most honored tradition in American life. The many religions practiced in America bear testimony to that. However, those who would use their religion to dominate others or create a sectarian religious state must be subject to American civil law which prohibits such activities. Also certain precautions and remedies must be in place to protect innocent religious practitioners from the likes of Rev.Jim Jones, Marshal Applewhite, Rev. Jimmy Swaggart, Rev. James Bakker, David Koresh, Rev. Ted Haggard, Reverend Sun Myung Moon, Rev. Richard Roberts, Rev. James Dobson and the many others who have bastardized Christianity.

This e-mail is already long enough so I won't include the many rulings pertaining to religion in the military and and how they are being routinely violated by Dominion Christians. However, they are available on request and I will be happy to supply them to you. Remember, all true patriotic Americans respect each others beliefs. Their blood all runs red and much of it has been spilled protecting your religious beliefs and that of others. Revel in your religion but on this joyful anniversary of our independence join the countless others who may believe differently than you in thanking the founders for the separation of church and state and, may I say, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation for guarding so vigilantly the rights and religious beliefs of our American Soldiers, Airmen, Marines, Sailors, Coast Guard, National Guard, Reserves, Service Academy Cadets and their families.

Also, please remember that if it were Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Shinto, Baha'i, Hinduism or any other religion under whose auspices such un-American activities are taking place, the efforts on the part of MRFF to prevent their seditious practice would remain as vigorous.

Richard Baker
MRFF Regional Coordinator
Colorado Springs


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