Fighting for our servicemembers' rights, so they can fight for ours.


Tuesday, March 29, 2016

CONTACT: BEKKI MILLER (337) 356-8696


MRFF client demands Torah & "The God Delusion" at V.A. display

"The Three Soldiers": miniature representation of the bronze statue commemorating the Vietnam War, located at the Washington, DC National Mall

MRFF Client Demand Letter to Carl Schneider, Youngstown V.A. Facility Director

Tuesday, March 29, 2016

Mr. Carl Schneider,

It has come to my attention that you have decided to leave the MIA/POW table in place, with the Christian Bible included.

Per the memorandum (see below) by Kimberly Robertson, the Director of Outpatient Clinics, the VA "cannot endorse, favor or inhibit any specific religion", I would like to set up a table honoring Vietnam war veteran's.

Therefore, I wish to exercise my right as a veteran to place a memorial table in your facility. The placement desired is just to the left of the POW/MIA table so as that the POW/MIA table not be granted supremacy of my table in regards to location and its visibility.

The table will be the same size dimensions as the MIA/POW table, but will feature no chairs. There will be a statue of the "three Soldiers" representing honors to Soldiers of Foreign wars. (see above).

As my Father was in Vietnam, and his religion was Judaism, there will be a copy of the Torah emplaced on the table.

As I am a 100% disabled combat veteran of the Afghan war, and am an atheist, there will be a copy of "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

As the POW/MIA table is erected by the DAV, and they get to choose what religious text goes on their table, I demand equal status and I will decide what goes on my table. If in the future I decide to add the Quran, or Mormon book of Latter Day Saints, that is my implied right.

Once again, you will find that the policy memorandum from the Director of Outpatient Clinics expressly gives me this right. To deny me so will result in a lawsuit against both the VA, and you specifically.

I am both a client of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and I have retained the Pro Bono services of a lawyer in Mahoning County that is willing to assist me should legal action become necessary.

It is my hope that you will adhere to the VA's policy not to inhibit my religious beliefs, nor my table displaying said beliefs, and give equal standing to the MIA/POW table with its religious message.

Failure to do so would clearly be favoring one memorial (and its Christian theme), show VA endorsement of a religion (Christianity); and inhibit my display's religious theme- all contrary and in violation of your Director's policy.

I look forward to your reply within 72 hours so that we may set up a day and time that I may erect my display.


Captain Jordan Ray
U.S. Army, Retired

Click here to read more about Bible Display at Youngstown Multi-Specialty Outpatient V.A. Clinic


Letter from Kimberly Robertson, Director of V.A. Outpatient Clinics