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MRFF’s Letter to Secretary of Defense Robert Gates

Published On: April 20, 2010|Categories: News|20 Comments|

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  1. American Ceaser April 20, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    Covering the Muslims there Mikey? Don’t like those Christians do you Mikey. Tell you what Mikey, this may not be Christian like, but STFU.

  2. fromthediagonal April 21, 2010 at 6:52 am

    Thank you for your courage in the face of adversity. To be maligned when fighting for justice is an unfortunate consequence. You expose those who wish to impose a Christianist Theocracy upon the vast majority of our citizens. The goals of this “group mindset” are radial and have not been examined and aired in the public place for decades, which has only emboldened them in their efforts to undermine the ideas upon which this nation is based. Those ideas were futuristic at the time of their promulgation, and though Deist, they also were based upon the philosophical ideas of Ancient Greece (which predated all three monotheistic religions).
    If there is an ideology contained within the Founding Documents, it is that of the free and legal exchange of ideas! Not the dominance of power hungry fundamentalist members of any religion! You have my support.

  3. fromthediagonal April 21, 2010 at 6:57 am

    Spellcheck!
    Actually, this may very well have been a Freudian Error:
    …”the goals of this group-mindset are radial”… should have been radical!
    But on second thought, radial works in its own way, as their words and actions radiate outward…
    So there it is.

  4. Joshua Stubblefield April 21, 2010 at 7:03 am

    Your website should be named ” http://www.IHateChristians.org .” Why try to hide it??

  5. michael Kafir April 21, 2010 at 7:24 am

    YOU are’offended’ by Reverend Graham’s invitation at the Pentagon, but NOT by that MURDERING ISLAMIC TERRORSIT SOB, Major Nidal, another “Ambassador” from that Religion of Peace, Islam? The same Religion whose other “Ambassadors” from Abu Sayaf murderd and beheaded 53 Catholic men, women and children leaving a Catholic Church in the Phillipines last week? THAT ISLAMIC FASCIST terrorist religion, Mikey? The Religion of Peace? The one whose Quran says “look there’s Jew hiding behind the rock; KILL HIM?”

  6. Miles Kimber April 21, 2010 at 8:56 am

    Thank you, Mr. Weinstein, for such an appropriate letter to Secretary Gates. Despite the facile and vacuous commentary that I see here replying to MRFF’s efforts, it is very obvious that you and your staff are not anti-Christian or even anti-religious. The overt moves of the political Christian “right” to integrate and influence the U.S. government and particularly the Department of Defense is, at its base, pernicious and hateful, besides being latent with violent intentions unlike anything represented by Jesus in the Gospels.

  7. Steven Mading April 21, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    It’s good that you’re fighting this on the grounds that the military has no business endorsing any particular religion over any other (or endorse generically the idea of religion in general over irreligion).
    It’s not good that you’re also fighting this on the grounds that the pastor in question said bad things about Islam outside this event. What matters is his presence at THIS event and what he will say here. The idea of secular government is not that everyone has to be an atheist to participate, but that one can still have all the partisan sectarian religious beliefs one wants as long as they don’t use their position in a government office to promote them. This idea that one can leave one’s religion at the door, so to speak, when entering their government office for work in the morning, and then pick it up again when they leave the government office at night, is necessary for secular government to function and by saying that this event has become un-secular merely because the speaker said anti-Islamic things OUTSIDE this event destroys that principle of secularism.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad that you’re fighting this, and I do not believe there is anything secular about the national day of prayer. I agree that this means the military has no business taking part on those grounds. I’m just saying that you shouldn’t be using the “this guy said anti-Islamic things in the past” as the reason for coming to that conclusion, as the letter here seems to be doing. If my senator goes to church on sunday, that doesn’t disqualify him from being a secular senator on the following monday. Secular governance does not mandate that everyone behave like an atheist 100% of the time even when not carrying out government work.

    Don’t allow the “criticizing a religion’s tenets equals bigotry towards the people who say they follow it” meme to continue spreading. Don’t let yourself be part of spreading it. Criticizing an idea is not criticizing a person, even when that idea is a religion. The principle of honest discourse that says “Even though you are not supposed to attack the person you are still allowed to attack the position” must be upheld, and that means saying bad things about a religion must never be confused with saying bad things about people who are members of it.

    The idea that one must never criticize a religion EVER is exactly what got religious groups the power they now hold (and were not supposed to) over government.

  8. fromthediagonal April 21, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    Steven Mading: Well thought out comments like yours give me hope for the future of this Nation. Thank you.

  9. fromthediagonal April 21, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Miles Kimber: I salute you as well. We must continue to keep the high the Lamp of Logic in the face of irrationality, and your measured words do just that. Keep going!

  10. jgbeckman April 22, 2010 at 8:45 am

    Your letter and complaint is cited in this article:

    Evangelist Franklin Graham Latest Target of Anti-Christian Group

  11. R. Robinson April 22, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    This is my first time to the site as well. Unbelievable garbage spewing from Mikey Weinstein!! This website and what he stands for is completely anti-American. What rock did you slither from? How dare to mock our great nation and the hero’s that have served her. And I did for 22 years in the US Navy. And that letter you wrote to Mr. Gates, pathetic!!! How dare you disparage Franklin Graham for speaking the truth and for being on the side of justice and righteousness. You Mr. Weinstein are a bigot, narrow-minded and self-serving. Please move for our God fearing and loving country, to some other place to spew your hate. Thank God for the National Day of Prayer – we will prevail in spite of people like you. Can’t wait for November to take this country back and get rid of anti-Americans like you!! And the Jesus Rifle issue? I’m sorry Mikey, but you are a joke.

  12. urElder April 22, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Mr. Weinstein, face the truth: Islam is evil and IS anti-American. Gates, McHugh, and Casey’s yielding to your plea to keep one who proclaims truth, Graham, from speaking at this event clearly indicates their spine-less, weak leadership. The true leaders of our military are the men on the battlefield who know the enemy – the evil islamic influences, and need for prayer and to hear from someone like Graham who is not afraid to speak and stand up for the truth. The evil islamic influences must not find their way into the American culture as is happening in Europe, England, and other regions of this planet.

  13. HECTOR April 22, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    WHO CARES WHAT THEY THINK? FIRST OF ALL THE AMERICAS FOLLOWING 1492 WERE FOUNDED ON BIBLICAL BELIEF REGARDLESS IF PEOPLE THINK THAT EITHER CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS ARE CRAZY PEOPLES. ALSO THE AMERICAS WERE FOUNDED ON JUDEO PRINCIPLES. REGARDLESS IF SOME DID AGREE OR DID NOT AGREED THEN WITH IT OR EVEN TODAY. IN REGARDS TO ALL THOSE GROUPS THAT NOW OPERATE INSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES AND OTHER AMERICAN COUNTRIES TRYING TO TAKE THE BIBLE FROM EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE BELIEF ON THE ONE GOD TO HELL WITH YOU IF YOU DO NOT REPENT FROM YOUR BIGOTRY AND YOUR LIES PERIOD AND THIS IS SAID IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME ON THE FLESH AND WHO IS IN POWER HERE AND ALL OF THE CREATION INCLUDING HIS FATHER THE GOD OF ABRAHAM , ISAAC AND YACOB. HERE IS A WARNING. MAY THE WRATH OF GOD FALL ON THEM ALL PERIOD. YOU WANT YIHAD BUNCH OF BOLONY TWISTED ISLAMIC BLA BLA BLA. THEN JUST WAIT. THEY WANT TO NOT ONLY DESTROY ISRAEL BUT ALSO THE AMERICAS FOR THEY KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AMERICAS SPEAKING SPANISH AND ENGLISH ARE PURE DESCENDANTS OF JEWISH PEOPLE. ARABS ARE ALSO A FORM OF BLESSED PEOPLES BUT NOT BECAUSE THEIR DENIAL OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME ON THE FLESH. IN REGARDS TO THE JEWS THE BIBLE IS CLEAR THAT THOSE JEWS THAT HAVE NOT ACCEPTED MESSIAH IF THEY DO NOT CONTINUE ON THEIR UNBELIEF THEN THE CREATOR CAN GRASP THEM IN AGAIN. ISRAEL IS PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL MEANING THE JEWS AND THE CHURCH REGARDLESS IF TWISTED PEOPLE ARE TAKING THE BIBLE OUT OF TEXT. IN REGARDS TO THE USA IT WAS FOUNDED ON MANY DIFFERENT VIEWS BUT CLEARLY JUDEO CHRISTIANITY IS WHAT SHAPED IT. IT WAS NOT ISLAM AND IT WILL NOT BE ISLAM AND THAT WILL NOT BE PERIOD OR OUR DEATH BODIES. WE TAKE A STAND AGAINST SUCH PRESSURE AND YES IN THE USA PEOPLE CAN THINK OR SPEAK BUT THAT DOES NOT MEANS THAT THEY WILL CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE USA MAIN PRINCIPLES COME FROM JUDEO CHRISTIANITY EVEN IF THE SCOTTISH RITE OF FREEMASONRY HAS TRIED TO TURN THE NATION WITH OTHER GROUPS SUCH AS SATANIC WORSHIPERS INTO A SATANS BREEDING GROUND FOR DEMOCRACY WHEN IN FACT DEMOCRACY IS NOT THE USA FOR IS A REPUBLIC. THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT DOES NOT ERASE THE FACT OF THE USA REPUBIC STATUS. WE ARE A SOVEREIGN NATION NOT FOUNDED ON ISLAMIC ROOTS. THE CONSTITUTION ALLOWS ROOM FOR ALL PEOPLES BUT THAT DOES NOT MEANS THAT WE AGREE WITH ALL THE GROUPS INCLUDING THOSE THAT ARE OR HAVE TAKEN A STAND AGAINST CHRISTIANITY. PRAYER HAS BEEN PART OF THE EVENTS OF THIS NATION FOR THE LONGEST EVEN IF SOME OF THE PEOPLE MOTIVES BEHIND THE PRAYERS WERE NOT TRUE OR WERE BASED ON DECEPTION. IN REGARDS TO THE UNITED STATES MILITARY WHO CARES IF PEOPLE JOINING DO NOT ALL BELIEVE ON THE PRINCIPLES THAT SETTLED THIS NATION. YES THERE WERE ERRORS BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE THE UNBELIEVERS BE THE HEAD BY NO MEANS PERIOD. WHEN YOU JOIN THE MILITARY YOU ARE BOUND BY OATH AND IF YOUR DAMMED PROBLEM IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE HISTORY OF THIS NATION AND WITH YOUR BLA BLA BLA OF HELL YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT THERE IS A GOD OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH BUT YOU WANT TO TURN THE CREATION INTO YOUR OWN LIES FROM THE VERY PIT OF HELL. IN REGARDS TO GOVERNMENT THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE DOES NOT RULES OUT THE PRINCIPLE OF PRAYER IN THE NATION ACTIVITIES. IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE AND YOU WAN TO LIE BECAUSE ON YOUR PRESENT STATE YOU ARE BOUND TO HELL AND WOULD LIKE TO TAKE EVERYONE WITH YOUR LIES WITH YOU WE SAY NO TO YOUR LIES PERIOD. ISLAM IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGON AND IF YOU READ THE KORAN THEN YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT IS NOT A PEACEFUL RELIGION. ALSO IN THE CONCEPT OF FREEDOM ISLAM HAS NO BUSINESS FOR IS ACTUALLY AGAINST FREEDOM AND USES FORMS OF LEGALISMS TO CLAIM TO HAVE A BELIEF ON A SUPREME BEING. HOWEVER ISLAM DOES NOT WORSHIPS THE GOD OF ABRAHAM , ISAAC AND YACOB BUT ISLAMS WORSHIPS A FALSE MOON ENTITY AND HAS BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE FEEL FOR THE PERSON INVOLVED IN ISLAM BUT WE DO NOT ACCEPT IT NOR WILL ACCEPT IT PERIOD AND IF YOU ARE A UNITED STATES CITIZEN AND YOU ARE TODAY A BUDDIST OR AND ISLAMIC PERSON INCLUDING SOME OF THE OTHER FAITHS EVEN THAT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE ALSO UNDER THE CONSTITUTION YOU SHOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON AGAINST SUCH CONSTITUTION ITSELF. THE HELL WITH THEM.

  14. Margaret April 22, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Mr. Robinson, How refreshing it is to hear from a patriotic American like you and thank you for your service to this great country!! I love this nation too, and when the truth can’t be spoken, and enemies have more rights than our navy seals, we all better be afraid. I, too, cannot wait for November to stop this horrible, wreckless path this govt has put us on. Hector is right.. Islam is not a peaceful religion. It’s time we stop bowing down to those who believe we shall all be killed in the name of Allah. . putting them in our court systems as if they have the same rights as Americans!?! Our govt protecting Major Nadal’s rights and military leaders who were afraid to turn him in knowing all they did about his radical views for fear of a backlash from our muslim-loving govt. How insane is that! We need more Mr. Grahams who will call it what it is. . . Terrorists who are living in this beautiful country while plotting to kill us while our govt works to shut the mouths of those who may call them what they are. I wonder what shock we’ll learn tomorrow? May God get us to November! And then 2012.

  15. mike April 23, 2010 at 3:12 am

    Mr Graham spoke the truth wake up people before its too late, islam offends me and many others so whats going to be done about it. Well MR Weinstein i question your and others loyalty to the United States and our freedom that so many have given their lives for .

  16. Kim April 23, 2010 at 3:40 am

    This letter is another example of America going down the tubes. I’m not surprised. Wake up people! Franklin Graham has the guts to speak up for what is right. So should we. Take your country back and quit bowing to the Islam religion. They do not like hearing truth but want to take over America! And they are doing just that with this letter.

  17. StewartIII April 23, 2010 at 8:55 am

    NewsBusters: Pentagon Rescinds Franklin Graham’s Invitation, Al Sharpton is Welcome at White House
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/colleen-raezler/2010/04/23/pentagon-rescinds-graham-s-invitation-sharpton-welcome-white-house

  18. Frank April 24, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    I see Mikey was able to avoid one of his juvenile, profanity laced tirades in his letter. What an angry, silly little man.

  19. DJ April 26, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    You are not doing anybody any favors, including yourself when you attack and belittle a group of people whos largest belief system relate to items such as 1) Honor your father and your mother 2) You shall not murder 3) You shall not commit adultery 4) You shall not steal.
    I know you were a “wanna-be” growing up, but you are letting it show again Mikey.
    Time to take a hard look at what you THINK you are doing AND WHY.

  20. COWBOY April 27, 2010 at 12:56 am

    WHO CARES IF THE ISLAMS DONT LIKE THE TRUTH. THEY ARE A VIOLENT GROUP OF PEOPLE. THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE THE TRUTH AND DONT WANT ANYONE ELSE IN THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE FREEEDOM OF RELIGON. THAT IS WHAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON AND IF THEY DONT LIKE IT HERE GO BACK TO IRAN OR SOME OTHER ISLAMIC COUNTRY THAT WILL TAKE THEM. WE DONT LIKE IT WHEN YOU THREATEN US OVER OUR BELIEFS. IF YOU CANT STAND THE HEAT HERE WHEN WE SPEAK OUR MIND THEN YOU DONT BELEIVE THAT OTHER HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS YOU. MR. GRAHAM SOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UNINVITED JUST BECAUSE YOU THREATENED TO CAUSE VIOLENCE IF HE SPOKE AT THE PENTAGON. NOW YOUWANT HIM UNINVITED TO A CONGRESSIONAL PRAYER MEETING. WELL WHY DONT YOU JUST SHUT UP AND LEAVE OTHER RELEGIOUS LEADERS ALONE. THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH ADN MR. GRAHAM SAID NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT THE ISLAMIC PEOPLE ARE ALL ABOUT. VIOLANCE!!!!! SO GET A LIFE AND GET THE H..L OUT OF MY COUNTRY IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT THE CHRISTIANS HAVE TO SAY. WE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS YOU AND YOU WANT TO TAKE THE MFROM US. MAYBE SOME CARTOONIST SHOULD DRAW YOUR MOHAMAD IN A PILE OF CAMEL DUNG WITH FLIES FLYING AROUND HIS HEAD TELLING JOKES ABOUT HIM. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SIGHT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HTAT OR MAYBE MAKE HIM AND ARMY PILOT. PILING CAMEL DUNG HERE AND CAMEL DUNG THERE WITH THE KORAN UNDER ALL THAT CAMEL DUNG. THAT WOULD ALSO BE FUNNY. YOU DONT LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY WELL THIS IS FREE SPEECH AND I DONT FEEL BAD ABOUT ANYTHING I HAVE HAD TO SAY ABOUT YOUR KORAN OR YOUR SUPPOSED RELIGEOUS LEADER. THE TURE LEADER IS GOD AND NO ONE ELSE. MAYBE IF YOU WOULD READ THE BOOK OF GAD AND NOT SOME MAN MADE BOOK BECAUSE THEY DID NOT LIKE WHAT THE BIBLE HAD TO SAY THEM MAYBE YOU WOULD UNEDERSTAND THAT YOUR SUPPOSED SUCIDED BOMBERS ARE GOING TO HELL. THAT IS WHAT MY BIBLE SAYS THAT THOSE WHO TAKES ONES LIFE LIVE IN HELL FOR ETERINITY. WELL TAKE ALL THIS TO MIND AND REALIZE THAT WE HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS ADN YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO RUN ROUGH SHOD OVER ANYONE JSUT BY THREATING TO BRING VIOLIENCE ON OTHERS JUST BECASUE YOU DONT LIKE WHAT SOMEONE HAS SAID.

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