GOP Rep. Mike Turner Fails to Turn New Dod Law Procedures for Religious Freedom Complaints Into a GOP Win; It’s Actually a MRFF Victory!

Christian nationalist GOP Rep. Mike Turner, whose National Defense Authorization Act amendment to shut MRFF down backfired spectacularly, tries to save face, claiming to The Dayton Jewish Observer that his epic fail, which ended up giving MRFF more power than ever, was really what he wanted all along!
Seriously, that is how he’s trying to spin it!
According to the article: “Turner says the final approved amendment — rather than his House version against Weinstein and the MRFF — had been his aim all along.”
Really? He set out to shut MRFF down, but his aim all along was really to give MRFF more power?
Turner also told The Observer that he just named MRFF, and only MRFF, by name in his amendment as an example to “start the discussion.” Sure, he wasn’t really going after MRFF. He just happened to pick MRFF out of a hat to use as an example?
And, most laughably, Turner told The Observer that it’s only MRFF’s tactics that he objects to, not MRFF’s mission. Say what? This Christian nationalist congressman doesn’t object to MRFF’s mission of stopping Christian nationalism? Right.
It seems that Rep. Turner is now epically failing at trying to turn his epic fail into a win!
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Brooklyn Navy Yard, 1967, upon active duty Naval Reserve, filling out info for dog tags. Instructions read that if under religion, I wrote Greek Orthodox, Jewish, or no preference, I would be required to speak with a chaplain. Not wanting to speak with an officer about anything, I wrote “Pagan.” This was stamped onto my dog tags and entered into my service record.
The Christian Nationalists want to implement a Unitary Executive under their deluded theory.
In other words, a dictatorship with a theological basis. If that’s what you’re in to, move to Iran! Or, better yet, Saudi Arabia. You’ll have to change your flavor of religion but same God.
Saudi Arabia is a shithole country, owing to its complicity and partnership with Islamic leadership. The single biggest family-owned business in the world, bar none, with relegated powers to the Islamic “chosen ones” to keep the people in line!
No better place to look at religion as a control mechanism than Saudi Arabia, Iran to a lesser extent.
If you want to know what theocratic control looks like, you have two very good models on the world stage to compare with.
Why would you think Christian Nationalist control here in the U.S. would be any different?
These are charlatan grifters playing into the genuine religiosity of a populace.
The “rules” are meant for “the people,” not those actually making the rules! You don’t really think “the rules” apply to them do you? How daft if you do! As just one example, Saudi Arabia, a completely “dry” country, is the single largest consumer of Johnny Walker Black label in the world! You think Saudi Arabia doesn’t have a drug problem? Think again! In spite of having a big red letter stamp on their immigration cards that says, “DEATH TO DRUG TRAFFICKERS!” They have the same drug problems every other country has, in their religious utopia, in their controlled Islamic Gilead! You just never hear about it with the strict controls on the press.
Why would you think a Christianized Government here at home would be any different?
Christians need to take back their religion! Christian Nationalism is a “stolen valor” zero-sum game at best! A theocratized autocracy at worst!
MAGATs – Out The Door In 24!
Get rid of these fucking Christian pricks that want women in this country to assume their rightful place – at home, barefoot and pregnant, subservient to their man-lords!
Up the rebels! Kick their asses out!
Pagan, too funny! Mine said “No Preference,” without having to speak to a chaplain, subsidiary of the Navy, USMC. Course, that was Vietnam cannon-fodder era.
The MAGATs in Congress refer to Democrats as marxists while using an indicted Russian spy as their biggest piece of evidence in the case for inquiry into impeachment of Joe Biden, having gone full-on Government of Putin (GOP). Their Russian spy evidence having been completely made up, their spy Smirnov (really?) getting ready to see some time behind bars for lying to the FBI in his story about Biden.
The GOP is full-on communist in our own House of Representatives, led by Christian Nationalist Moscow Mike following the Trump/Putin guidance.
If you’d ever wondered what it would be like to live under Communist rule, you’re seeing it live in the Republican-controlled House of Putin!
Get rid of these Communist assholes taking direction from Trump/Putin to break up NATO, support Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, and make czars of the Trump/Putin team!
MAGATs are not only Christian Nationalist delusional, they’re also full on Communist led.
Ever notice how Russians seem to have congenital balance problems? Like they’re born with inner ear problems, always falling out of windows?
The exception is Navalny. No windows in prison I’m guessing.
Government Of Putin (GOP) – Show these assholes the door in 24!
Get rid
A Christian Nationalist pastor, Bobby Leonard, NC., has gone viral saying that if women who wear shorts are raped, and he’s on the jury, the rapist is going to go free because, well, “men are men!” In other words (mine), she caused the rape, it’s HER fault she was raped because, you know, “men are men!”
There’s your Gilead for you Christians!
This is what you’re voting for when you pick the party of Trump/Putin and their MAGAT Christian extremists.
Apparently, a man’s self control is not to be questioned when it comes to sex and the assault on women. But it makes sense right? Everyone knows when a man’s dick gets hard, the blood rushes from his head and his thinking is impaired, particularly for good Christians like Trump who just grabs ‘em by the pussy!
It’s not his fault for God’s sake! He’s a man after all, a good Christian man! In Trump’s case, she doesn’t even have to be wearing shorts. E. Jean Carroll had on a dress! Trump got railroaded – she enticed him! Well, for the first $5 Million worth of the verdict. The next $83.3 Million, yeah, that was for running his mouth. That part’s on him!
So, for the women out there, as much as you’d like to spin a sexual assault to somehow make it the man’s fault, it’s on you baby! You need to keep yourself conservatively dressed and especially keep your hair covered! Nothing triggers a man more than a woman’s hair! Just ask the Saudis and Iranians!
For the men, don’t let a woman take away your Bobby Leonard-given right to be a man! If your thinking gets a little clouded because of biological processes and you do something to a woman you otherwise might not do because she was “leading you on” with her attire, just get someone like Bobby Leonard on the jury and you’ll be as good as Trump gold!
Damn women! Making shit up to control a man’s completely natural urges. It’s just not Christian-like!
That shit in Deuteronomy about having to marry the virgin you rape and pay the family 50 shekels, well, let’s just say it’s a bit old. You don’t have to marry her. And she doesn’t have to be a virgin, could be any woman. We need a biblical revision. When Christ comes back we need to get that part fixed!
Christian men. Don’t get flustered when you see a woman and have carnal desires. It isn’t your fault! That’s the way God made you! Just be careful in jury selection!
MAGATs – Out The Door In 24!
The “L” is for leader?
Hahahahaaaaa!
Just remember…. thinks L on the head of Christian nationalist GOP Rep. Mike Turner means leader.
LOL – in what world is this even close to a fact?
Christian nationalist GOP Rep. Mike Turner tried to pass legislation to get MRFF censured, meaning no one could talk to them specifically and instead the bill now reads that when religious infractions happen in military public areas the chain of command HAS to contact the MRFF.
So in what sense is Christian nationalist GOP Rep. Mike Turner a leader?
Like the orange hued poop smelling not my president gurl, he is a loser and will continue to lose because all he has is being a Christian nationalist.
In the here/now? Not good enough.
MAGA – out the door in ’24.
🟥 Trump 🇺🇸 VS 🟦 Biden
Inflation :
🟥 1.4% vs. 🟦 17.4%
Gas:
🟥 $2.39 vs. 🟦$3.86
Mortgage rates :
🟥2.65% Vs. 🟦 7.60%
Avg. rent :
🟥 $1625 vs. 🟦 $2039
Grocery prices increase:
🟥 3.7% vs. 🟦 13.5%
Electric prices rose:
🟥 1.5% vs. 🟦 15.8%
Hourly wage increase:
🟥 4% vs. 🟦 2.8%
Disastrous Military Withdrawals:
🟥 NONE vs. 🟦 Afghanistan
New Wars Started:
🟥 NONE vs. 🟦 Ukraine, Israel, and a potential one in Taiwan
Border Security:
🟥 Secure southern border vs. 🟦 WORST illegal alien invasion in history
Oh my stars and garters! It’s propaganda human with their latest (supposed to scare us) set of statistics.
Oops, if you had any credibility I’d fact check these claims of yours. But because it’s you I’ll dismiss them out of hand.
Your numbers mean nothing without the where you got them, how you got them, and the dates they were accrued. But (also) because it’s you I figure you whipped them up yourself. I am so proud you did this thing. Good human.
Now go clean up the kitchen, you left a mess. And this time don’t even think to stack the used pans in the oven. Remember what happened last time.
I thought you liked facts? Kamala, is that you?
I do like facts Oops. It’s very sad you’ve never met any. You posted numbers, not facts. Please try to keep up.
Im not following your thrift store logic… numbers can’t be facts? 4+4=8…. is that not a fact?
Oops, never took you for stupid. Wrong most assuredly but stupid? Well, until today that is.
I dismissed the numbers you posted on various topics for the reason I gave above which I’ll give again because you are, well, stupid.
You didn’t provide where the study was done, when the study was taken, or the time frame for the metrics cited. And your numbers are not accurate. They are propaganda.
The equation you posted is a fact. The numbers you posted as how the USA fared under the former smelly not my president gurl and now are not accurate. And until you provide your sources I’m free to laugh at your pitiful attempt to ‘own the libs’.
Try better Oops. If I’d been a teacher your work would receive a Needs Improvement.
Stupid because I didnt provide adequate reference and citation for you? Im a bonafide Claudine Gay… I should resign in disgrace.
Unless you are indeed a Black woman (which I sincerely doubt) your comparison and attempted snark is noted. Not appreciated, just noted.
Yes, Oops, you carelessly posting a set of random numbers comparing the loser former guy and Pres Biden means nothing without context, something you should already know.
I’ve already spent enough time explaining why your list of propaganda fails to rise to the level of fact status. And your last goal post move proves you are not debating in good faith – which I already knew, and your continued insistence your numbers are accurate (of what you’ve yet to illustrate, but that is your modus operandi) means you are what I’ve said you are – a troll…. and stupid.
My job is done. Hopefully others who read our exchange will do their own digging to see reality. I also hope your insistence on playing stupid (which is the definition of stupid – wow stupid to the power of stupid!) gives others pause when considering your ideas as valid.
MAGA and Christian nationalists out the door in 24. Re-establish the wall between church and state. Either we follow the Constitution or we don’t. It’s that binary.
https://budget.house.gov/press-release/families-crushed-as-bidens-total-inflation-breaks-17
Here’s one for ya… I can cover the others as well… but why spend the time honestly.
Tell us Trump’s brilliant well-thought-out strategy for reducing inflation.
Sorry, I dont do whataboutisms. Only care about the current failures of big rig Joey.
Might as well bring the Hoover flags back out.
Oh my sides. Oops is soooo dumb!
How dumb are they?
They are so dumb they equate inflation with corporate greed.
wow – excellent deductive reasoning there Oops. For once your name is accurately descriptive
“Cumulative inflation”?? That’s ridiculous. That linked article comes from a Republican Committee staff, and it is ridiculously dishonest. You should be embarrassed to have linked that article.
Biden isn’t responsible for the price gauging and supply shortages that resulted in much of the inflation since the pandemic, but economists say Biden has done as much as a president can do to lower prices and inflation. The inflation rate has greatly decreased since it went way up during the previous administration. And it is well known that the gulf oil producers are trying to keep oil prices high so that Biden loses to Trump in November.
Biden accomplishments:
Pact Act
Chips & Science Act
American Rescue Plan
Infrastructure package
Gun Safety law
Inflation Reduction Act
$150 Billion in debt relief for 3.9 million borrowers.
Medicare negotiated prices on 10 drugs, insulin capped at $35.00
Added 14.5 million new jobs & growing.
Standing with unions for working men & women.
A woman’s right to choose.
Clean energy initiatives.
Electric vehicle rebates for made-in-America EVs.
Infrastructure in support of EVs.
Many more….
Republican accomplishments:
Public pissing in DC.
Sham impeachment based on Russian disinformation from an arrested Russian spy.
MTG & House Republican obsession with Hunter Biden’s dick!
Giving Ukraine to their Dear Leader Putin.
Russia is alive & well in the Communist-controlled Republican Party!
Turned down $14 Billion to secure southern border.
CR after CR to keep the Government funded – no budget.
A fired Speaker of the House.
A new speaker accepting money from Konstantin Nikolaev, close ally of Putin, one of three Russian owners of Texas-based American Ethane.
And of course you have all the Christian sex scandals, too numerous to mention.
‘Bout sums it up!
lol… just no
MAGATs, protecting the sanctity of life, shuts down IVF procedures that result in, wait for it, more life!
Their own policy decisions a prohibiting effect. Alabama Supreme Court, having bestowed legal rights on frozen eggs, clinics limiting the use of those eggs given the myriad legal liabilities associated with IVF treatment.
Tommy Tuberville leading the charge (they’re so smart in Alabama), “well, ah thank we need more of em air babies. We got ta hey-ave more kee-ids.” When asked about IVF being shut down, his answer, “well, at air is uh differnt eeshoo fer anuther convasashun!” In other words, “dumber than a bag of fucking hammers!”
These mother fuckers are so stupid!
“Bless your heart Tommy!”
“You just go on with your bad self,” as they say in the South!
Fact check time – it’s windy out therefore I am bedridden and can not watch one more movie. As stated by Monty Python – my brain hurts!
Per Investopedia:
Donald Trump (2017–2021)
The average yearly inflation rate under President Donald Trump was 1.9%. Inflation remained low during Trump’s presidency.
Huh, Oops said it’s 1.4%. Let’s keep going.
Again, Investopedia:
Joe Biden (2021–)
The Fed responded by raising interest rates 11 times since March 2022 in an attempt to cool the stubborn inflation. While inflation did come down from its 2022 peak in 2023, it still remains above the Fed’s 2% target. 34 Biden’s economic policies are now referred to as Bidenomics.
per Nerdwallet current inflation is 3.1%, not the 17.4% that Oops claims.
Added note – the chart defended vigorously by Oops notably has no dates, no context, no attribution. Inflation did rise as a result of dealing with a Pandemic, something that affected not just the USA but the world. It is notable that amongst the economies of the world the USA has the best recovery performance.
Per the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities:
Federal policymakers enacted substantial relief and recovery measures in 2020 and 2021 to support the economy and relieve hardship. These measures helped fuel an economic recovery beginning in May 2020 that made the deepest recession in the post-World War II era also the shortest. (According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, the acknowledged arbiter of business-cycle dating, the contraction in economic activity marking the pandemic recession lasted only two months: March and April 2020.) The expansion in economic activity in the recovery proved to be stronger and faster than initial projections.
I tried to fact check a couple more points but again… as Sherlock Holmes has said, data, data, data, I cannot make bricks without clay. Oops’ chart is clearly data free. It has numbers, we’ve established that fact but data? yeah, no.
That said, the following points deserve to be Fisked:
Disastrous Military Withdrawals:
🟥 NONE vs. 🟦 Afghanistan
Exactly who negotiated the Afghanistan withdrawal? What exactly were the terms?
Are we going to ignore that the fact that Trump didn’t negotiate with the Afghanistan government but with the Taliban, a sworn enemy of the USA? Are we also going to ignore the fact that one of the conditions of the withdrawal treaty was if evacuation was conducted by a specific date/time the Taliban wouldn’t shoot at Americans, making evacuation more difficult if not impossible?
But Biden carries all the blame for this? Yeah, he could have broken the treaty, in his first months of office, after the Jan6 insurrection. Sure. Right. He honored what the previous administration legislated. I didn’t like it at the time but now that I know more, I respect his decisions.
New Wars Started:
🟥 NONE vs. 🟦 Ukraine, Israel, and a potential one in Taiwan
Please explain to me how the USA is both not responsible but totally responsible for the actions of independent, sovereign nations? We made Russia invade Ukraine? Really? Because this is next level projection. We made Israel treat Palestinians worse than they were treated in the past? I’m not buying this point. I wouldn’t do it to Trump without adding context either. It’s called playing fair, a concept neither Oops nor MAGA GOP have ever done.
Border Security:
🟥 Secure southern border vs. 🟦 WORST illegal alien invasion in history
And this talking point here is the best example I’ve ever witnessed of the absolute failure of Oops’s presentation.
When Oops posted this the bi-partisan border agreement had been torpedoed by Trump. The same legislation that would have addressed all the GOP concerns but was tossed out because the GOP’s commander said no, and Oops presents it like a talking point that is on their side.
I was correct to dismiss their comment as propaganda. I’d no clue as to how damning the facts would be. Not glad I’m bedridden but beyond glad I was able to shed the Light O’ Day on the crap Oops peddles.
Forgot a few things –
Shall we include Trump abandoning our allies the Kurds to their certain extinction in Syria, that the order came down to leave everything?
Hundreds of thousands of our allies are dead now because the former stinky guy refused to stand up for our friends.
Lets get current – in a rally the former guy said he’d leave NATO, he told Russia to do whatever they want, and his base ate it up.
Let me repeat that because in my life I’ve never witnessed such a thing –
A former president, told Russia at a campaign rally to do whatever they wanted to our NATO allies across the pond. Our allies for more than six decades, sometimes centuries. Shall we ignore the time (multiple) that France can to our aid?
When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
(footnote – Russia if you are listening is what trump said at the debate with Hillary Clinton and suddenly everyone’s emails were getting hacked. weird, innit?)
Added note: I am in favor of the people of Russia. I am not in favor of their current government and Dictator (I’m sorry, correct title is president for life) Putin.
the people, the music, the food, the country – yes
expansionist politics? nope, not so much
All correct facts, Grey One. And Trump let Russia walk into northern Syria and cleanse out our allies in favor of Russian/Assad allies.
And Obama and Brandon let Russia walk into Crimea… whats your point.
Oops,
How did Obama and Biden let Russia walk into Crimea? The Crimea region is part of the Ukraine, a sovereign country in its own right. They have the responsibility of defending their own borders, as well as asking for help if they are invaded.
Russia invaded them and annexed Crimea, breaking the treaty that Russia had signed a decade before. However, Ukraine did not ask for help then because the government was in Russia’s pocket. Those people have since been voted out of office.
Without a request for help by the defending country, we cannot come to the aid of that country by international law. What could Obama have legally done in that case?
Oops: my point is that your statement that there were no disastrous military withdrawals when Trump was texting from the White House is false. And it is also false because Trump gave the Taliban an unconditional military withdrawal of US forces in Afghanistan by a certain date – something he said he would never do. Thank you for acknowledging that I am correct.