ABC NEWS – Military says fix may take up to a year; ‘Jesus Rifles’ still in combat

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Take A Year To Fix ‘Jesus Rifles’

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  1. Dr. Larry Lewis

    I am confused by the name of your organization. Military Religious Freedom Foundation would indicate that you are a proponent of religious freedom, and yet what your organization seems to be most concerned about is Christians taking a stand in the name of their faith in fear of offending someone of another faith. At the same time you want to stop Franklin Graham from speaking at the Pentegon because he is a Christian minister with an opposing point of view of your own.

    Please explain this obvious bias of your organization. Quite frankly as a Christian I am offended by radidal Islamists who propose death and destruction of any who believe differently and all in the name of their god. It seems that white Christians are your target. Explain how I am wrong.

  2. John USAF

    Your organizations name seems to me to be a calculated misnomer. All I see is a bunch of sad little people dedicated to stamping out religion in the military. I find it grotesquely offensive.

    How about an article explaining the military service of your leadership and employees.

  3. Alexander

    Dr. Larry Lewis-

    I am wondering how a man of faith such as yourself can be considered a doctor?

    A doctor would indicate to me that you are a man of science, and therefore a man of rational thought based upon empirical evidence. Theology is based upon nothing at all, and is accepted by faith, which is an excuse for not having enough intellegence to accept rational thought.

    Sorry, I am just confused that you are a doctor. Seems more like you are a hippocrate who knows which side of the bread the butter is on. Unless you are not an M.D. or PhD at all.

    John from the USAF: First of all, thank you for serving the country that I love. I always wanted to be in the Air Force as a kid. Bad eyesight though. I also grew out of my Rambo III phase.

    I can see how you would want religion in the military, particularly religions with an afterlife- i.e. Christianity.

    Generally, those who believe in an afterlife are more succeptable to join the military because when your aircraft gets shot down, at least you can ascend to meet your creator.

    I for one, got an education instead of joining the service, and therefore, do not subscribe to religion. I am nothing. Always will be nothing. People who are not of religious traditions typically don’t join the military, because they have more self respect, and realization that they only have this one life to live- and it should be spent having fun.

    Cheer up pal.

  4. Karen

    Alexander, why are you criticizing Dr Lewis and John? People of faith have it all! Fun, peace of mind, happiness, and education. Many of us even have the patiotism to serve our country with pride and joy so that we remain free and allow you to have the freedom to criticize us. Don’t allow your poor eyesight to leave you short-sighted! Believing in God doesn’t cost anything, but gains one everything.

  5. 1LT J. Doherty

    Mikey, I appreciate the work you do to keep the ‘fundies’ at bay. Throughout my 15 years in the Army (enlisted in the 82nd and currently an officer) I have encountered frequent prejudice and behind the scene back-stabbing for being an open atheist.

    Job well done, keep it up.

  6. Robert

    Alexander,
    I like the way you refer to yourself as, “nothing” yet the content and tone of your post make you seem very self important. I also like the way you thank the Air Force member for his service in one breath and then state, “…those who believe in an afterlife are more succeptable to join the military…” as if joining the military is some sort of disease that stupid people catch. What a gift. Insulting someone while making it sound like a compliment. A grateful nation thanks your for getting your education. You are single handedly making all of us more intelligent.

  7. Kieselgukr Kid

    Hey, Doherty, shout-out from another officer at Bragg!

    Some few years back I left my cushy, coastal life — and my Ivy science Ph.D.s and publications, Alexander, so, bite me — to join the Army. because I was worried people like me weren’t doing our bit to serve, and the armed forces were not representing us. Since then I’ve met good-hearted people with whom it is an honor to serve the public, and I hope I’ve done some little good, and so I continue in uniform.

    But racism and religious bigotry in the armed forces can be almost comically pervasive and unpleasant. I am a member of a minority religious community which is an important part of my identity and, that can be hard. At three separate posts, I have gone to the chaplain’s office and asked for help finding local temples and been told, “Sure, we’re here to help you.” Nobody’s ever called back — surprise. But I’m more or less willing to put of with this stuff; if we don’t, we don’t get a “better” Army.

    Except, well, I have small children. I think often, is this the culture in which I want to raise them? Are the Army’s values the ones I want them to have? If — when — I take off my uniform it will be to protect them.

    For that reason I am really, _deeply_ grateful to MRFF. You are making it possible for me to resolve that dilemma and to do the best I can to serve and still give my kids the world I want them to have. I am really moved and grateful that you exist.

  8. eastatlshawty

    Dr. Larry White: I would love to talk with you about your misconception of the Christian Faith. Faith is only half of being a Christian. Jesus did not want us nor did he live a blind faith that lacked reason. The majority of things in the Bible have been proven correct through Manuscripts, Archeology, Prophecy, and Scripture. The big issue is that even though many philosophers athiests ask for questions is when given a legitimate, logical answer they try to discredit it! Science disproves evolution, and credits the Bible if you don’t believe me look at the Third Law of Thermodynamics which discredits the whole Big Bang Theory. I for one am a Christian, and yes I received my salvation by faith, yet I always have an answer of my faith. II Timothy 2:15 ” Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth”. Jesus called us Christians to study the Word of God, and be able to rightly defend it. Needless to say that being a Christian does involve reason and faith not a blind faith! As a Christian I can be anything i want to be as long as it fits in under the text of The Bible!

  9. Wiindy

    eastatlshawty

    Your attitude gives me a real understanding of this Mark Twain quote –
    “If Christ was here now there is one thing he would not be…a christian.”
    — Mark Twain

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