Man in the Mirror
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This post was created on the previous version of the MRFF website, and may not be fully accessible to users of assistive technology. If you need help accessing this content, please reach out via email.Dear Mikey and MRFF,
Awhile back, a friend dropped me a link to your website. I read through your materials, agreed with a lot of it, and periodically came back to read the comments and notes from time to time. I will admit I was surprised by the venom that was in some of the hate mail your group received. The more I read those comments, the heavier my shame of being an American becomes. I’m a 4th generation veteran. My great grandfather was a member of the British Royal Artillery in WW1 (Later died from wounds sustained in a mustard gas attack), both Grandfathers served in WW2 (One was a Paratrooper, the other a B-17 Crewchief with the 8th Air Force). One grandmother was a member of the British Territorial Army and served in London during the Blitz. Several Uncles served in Korea, and Vietnam (SAR). My Father is a Vietnam era veteran. I myself served with the Army in Saudi Arabia during Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm. I was raised in the belief that this was the best country in the world because we enjoyed so many freedoms that others could not have. Only now, it seems there are many here who want those freedoms to either be stripped from those they feel are undeserving or unworthy. neither my wife or I are Christian, we are Pagans, and therefore undesirables to some. Every day I see what those people are doing to this country, and all I can think of is, was this what my family has fought for? Is this what my own service to this country is worth now?
I think it was Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche who warned against fighting monsters too long for there was a great danger of becoming a monster yourself. I think that’s what happened here. After 9/11 people have become so focused on what they hate about Muslims that they are now trying to enact the very things they say they are against. Why can they not see that? In fighting terror, they are becoming the terrorists. Quite frankly, I cannot help but draw parallels to Germany in the 1920’s and 30’s when the Nazi’s gave that scared nation a false hope for the future in a twisted ideal. I worry that this country may walk a similar path with the same fatal results. People need to look in the mirror and see what they are becoming.
That is why I am glad you and your organization, are out there waging the fight you are in now. You keep poking and make them look into that mirror. And maybe we won’t have a future with an American Theocracy running rampant.
(name withheld)
Disabled U.S. Army Veteran
Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm.
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I too agree with some of the basic premises of MRFF. What I don’t agree with is attacking freedom loving folks who just happen to be expressing their religious beliefs. All should be allowed to respectfully do this. MRFF routinely calls these folks rabid fundamentalists, Dominionists and such. Their venom is just as toxic. Read Mikey W’s manifesto at the top of this page. This is not freedom of religion for our military… it’s freedom FROM religion. It’s patriotism morphed into some dangerous form of nationalism. We are a representative democracy. Representative is the key word. Equal access, not equal representation. It’s true you will see more Christian symbolism since 78% of the nation claims Christianity. It’s virtually impossible to accomodate every single expression of religion…so the majority will be “over” represented. That’s the nature of a democratic republic…. isn’t it?
There’s loving freedom and then there’s “Loving Freedom” You say it’s virtually impossible to accomodate every religious expression? Why is that? If this is representative democracy, as you say it is, then this should not even be an issue. Equal representation is a key. Once in office, a politician does not have the luxury of sticking with his favorites. They must equally represent all constituents be they Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Pagan Gay, Straight, or anything in between. But, by your standards they won’t be obligated to do so, simply by saying “I can’t accomodate everybody”? How then, is this representative?
The National Motto was one: E Pluribus Unum. “Of the Many, One.”
Now it’s “In God We Trust”
So what does this represent? Or is the 78% the only important part to be represented now? Should I , my wife, and others whom you do not like simply leave this country to make you feel better? Or should we get the reeducation camps going now to get the process started to make this country the way you want?
Nice to know my blood sweat and tears shed in service to my country count for something.
Equal access, not equal representation is the key Chris. Why do New York, Florida, California have so many more represented in Congress?
No one denied anyone the right to display..please don’t believe every blogger that spouts misinformation on this website, including Mr Weinstein. Another of your like-minded commentators noted 186 religions with holidays to celebrate… Shall we have a sign for everyone? Who will fund this? The nativity and menorah are funded with freewill donations from the chapel. I have attended the chapel in the past… Tax payer dollars pay for basic equipment and facilities for use by all faiths. Anything else like this has to come from free donations.
I hope this has helped to better inform you.
Merry Christmas, Kwanza, Hannukah, or whatever you do or don’t celebrate. I wish you an enlightened New Year as well :)
Good response Freeman! I am no spring chicken and also have had and now have immediate family members in the armed services. None of us know why this group exists as we all agree that we have met people of many beliefs or no beliefs and we all seem to have and still do get along fine w/o the help of MRFF and their group of whiners. There are some bullies in the world ,we have all met them,but when you are old enough to serve your country you are certainly old enough to handle them or you are not emotionally strong enough to serve. This group of misfits needs an audience and it appears they found one,regardless how mean and small they are.
Bottom line… acknowledging faith of military members, and allowing religious speech that is in good order and discipline and respectful of other religions, which is expected of military members, is not an establishment of religion. “Congress shall make no laws”…”nor prohibit the free exercise thereof.” We’ve strayed so far from the plain sense meaning of the Constitution to the point where any public expression of religion, according to the secularists is seen as establishment. The Supreme Court has ruled over and over again that it is not. The really dangerous thing is to say that the only religion should be a nationalistic one or patriotic religion. We need the values of religious speech as a check against this kind of secular nationalism. The people of faith, by and large, did not stand against this kind of nationalism in pre Nazi Germany.