Military Religious Freedom Foundation

Mike Weinstein,

These acts of redefining tolerance by coming against religious rights of Christians in the military is so upsurd, rediculous, and immoral. You shame yourself as a Jew and mis-represent Jews, and the God of Yisrael, and Yisrael itself. Christians support and bless Yisrael and the Jews and is this how you reward them. You are acting in darkness and you are showing there is nothing good in you in this hateful intolerant action with the Pentagon. This will shorten your life. I am a practicing Jew and was a part of the US Air Force. I am sick and see parallels with Hitler in what you are doing. I guess you love Hitler and intend to imitate him. That is a very shameful thing for a so-called Jew. Are you a new Hitler? Turn around before the same judgement he had comes upon you.

(name withheld)


Dear (name withheld):

Your use and abuse of Holocaust memory is shocking. Likening the defense of the US Constitution to the Hitler’s genocide showcases your complete ignorance of the savage brutality of Nazi Germany and its ferocious, total, systemic, and industrialized program of genocide. The Constitutional rights that MRFF defends entitle you to free speech. Your indiscriminate exercise of those rights expose the magnitude of your cognitive and cerebral deficits. Students of history understand the unfortunate consequences of unconstitutional religious proselytizing and oppression in the military. It is unfortunate that you missed that history lesson, as well as those on the Constitution and World War II.

Jackie Jacobs, Executive Director
Columbus Jewish Foundation


Dear (name withheld),

Mikey has read your email and asked me to respond.

I am a Christian (Episcopalian in fact) who fully supports Mikey’s and MRFF’s attempt to protect members of the U.S. Military from unconstitutional religious influence in relation to their training, assignment, advancement and retention. As a Christian supporter of MRFF, I truly enjoy efforts to proselytize to everyone here at MRFF. In this private setting, it is both appropriate and appreciated. I have the freedom (as do you) to demonstrably agree with your message, disagree with your message or totally ignore with no chance of repercussions. If on the other hand your proselytized message was being delivered to me in a government controlled situation where your official capacity was superior and mine subordinate, your message becomes immediately oppressive due to the loss of my freedoms as listed above.

Let me use the words of another in further explanation:
No one will be prosecuted simply for sharing one’s faith in the military. Sharing your faith – in a non-official context – is fine. What’s wrong is when it is in a mandatory, official, or any other context in which the power dynamic between the individuals is out of balance (e.g., a commander recommending church attendance to subordinates).

Should fundamentalist of other religious faiths engage in the same type of activity within the U.S. Military, MRFF’s response will be exactly the same. You should also be aware that MRFF fully supports the military chaplaincy role in its passive (i.e. without proselytization) ministrations to the religious needs of all U.S. Service Members of any faith.

The language employed by Mikey in his writings is a forceful calling out of Christian Dominionists and Fundamentalists intent on using the military as their personal playground for proselytizing to an audience controlled by the UCMJ and Lawful Orders from their commanders. Mikey’s and MRFF’s language is a conscious choice to use some of the same language many Christian Dominionst and Fundamentalists consistently deploy against many who happen to disagree with either their proselytized message or their perceived non-existent right to spread it in a strictly government controlled setting.

Your attempt to equate MRFF’s efforts regarding proselytizing is what is truly absurd, ridiculous and immoral (…and a huge whack at bearing false witness). However, you don’t stop there. You go into asinine mode by falling victim to Godwin’s Law:

“As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.”
(source: Godwin, Mike (January 12, 1995). “Godwin’s law of Nazi Analogies (and Corollaries)”. EFF.org. Electronic Frontier Foundation. pp. “Net Culture – Humor” archive section. Retrieved 2012-06-19.)

Follow your own advice.

Peace be with you,
Andy Kasehagen


Jackie,

I am a Jew and have family and people I know that went through the holocaust. They told me the things happening, coming from Obama and others like Mike Weinstein, are the same things they remembered that happened to set up the holocaust, what was prior to it. I am not directly talking about the genocide. I am not comparing this to that. I am comparing the war against freedoms that led to the slaughter later. That is the parallels I am talking about. The Hitler comparison is really about the agenda of his wicked heart. There are plenty of shameful Jews out there. It is sad the Mike wants to be one of them.

Shalom,

(name withheld)


In this country, no one has the right to force Christianity (or any religion) down our throats. None of us should tolerate coercive pressure down the chain of comment over matters of religion. Those who disagree with this deny me my rights. Those who agree with this are on the side of the Constitution (and Mikey Weinstein.) It’s that simple.

Your hate mail to Mikey Weinstein, coupled with nonsense about shameful Jews, so-called Jews, a new Hitler, etc. are obnoxious. I do not want to be your pen pal, so kindly remove my name from your list of correspondents.

Jackie Jacobs


Andy,

If you call yourself a Christian, you seem to be fairly blind on the tenets of your own faith and contradicting yourself. The scriptures are what show us true freedom, that this country was built upon, that you and your evil-hearted friend Mikey seems to be bent on destroying. A Christian is defined as one who hears and does the Word of God. You are a compromiser, because you are promoting not having the Word of God. Therefore, you are not being a Christian and don’t have a right to that title, much like Mikey does not have the right to the title of a Jew. So don’t think there will be a place for you in heaven by just calling yourself a Christian. I am a Jew because I hear and do the Torah and uphold it everywhere. That is what a Jew means (in Hebrew, a praiser of Elohim). Christianity came from a Jew called Yeshua (Jesus). He didn’t create a new religion or faith. He upheld the roots of the faith in Torah. However, Jewish men added and took away from the Torah. This is what Yeshua confronted and was mistreated for. The same thing happened to the Jewish Christian followers, gentile men came along later and added and took away from the words of Yeshua not upholding the roots of Torah, this is why there are so many Christian denominations today and much lawlessness in the world. No man has a right to dictate to another to share or not to share with another person regarding Spiritual matters. While I agree, it should not be forced on another, they should be able to practice their faith freely and openly. One moment they want to give homosexuals the right to freely practice their lifestyle openly, that lifestyle to me is offensive as a Jew, but I would try to tolerate it if I was still in the military. It is an abomination in the Torah. Where is the tolerance for soldiers and former soldiers like me? If you talk about tolerance, it should be for all people. If I need to tolerate the behavior of a homosexual than you and Mikey need to tolerate a Christian practicing their faith. The US military has been fine without Mikey’s racial hatred of Christians as I have read and heard from his own mouth which he is now carrying out in his agenda. If you and him want communism, go to North Korea, or China, but don’t promote it to our military. They are the ones giving their life for God and country. Except, you want to leave God out of it. I have some news for you, you are helping to weaken our military and remove God’s covering over it. You can tell your friend Mikey that too. I had a commander over me when I was in the Air Force who was a big help for me. We talked about God too. By the way, I don’t respect or always agree with Godwin’s law of Nazi analogy, I follow God’s Law, and this issue I am talking about is in fact a Nazi likeness or analogy, no matter how ignorant you are of it. There is a darkness coming to you and Mikey if you don’t reverse this action.

Shalom,
(name withheld)


Dear (name withheld),

I’ll take a pass on receiving scriptural interpretation from a clown who has not only chosen to bear false witness, but now doubles down by taking God’s name in vain by passing judgment that is left only to God. How pathetically appropriated for someone with obvious delusions of grandeur.

Why do you bother adding the following statement:
“While I agree, it should not be forced on another, they should be able to practice their faith freely and openly.”
…embedded within such sycophantic religious fundamentalist drivel as you have included in your email? Could it be to provide cover for those who chose to make the U.S. Military their proselytizing playground in order to foster the U.S. Military being used as government-paid missionaries (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB1UifGIqaw)?

Being called un-American by anyone with the incredible ego and temerity required to adjudicate such a verdict is almost as meaningless as the tired and irrelevant phrase that America was established as a Christian nation. Am I proud as a Christian that Judeo/Christian heritage and morality played a truly significant role in development of the U.S. Constitution & Bill of Rights? You better believe it. However, by adoption of the Constitution, we as a nation from that point forward agreed to be bound to each other under a democratic Man’s Law rather than a theocratic Devine Law.

To sum up my perspective I defend both my Christian faith and my Constitution proudly and equally. I simply don’t feel compelled to defend one at the expense of the other.

And now, as mentioned in my previous email response, I will exercise my freedom to ignore your ridiculous attempts to proselytize and continue working with Mikey and MRFF to protect the same rights for U.S. Service members from being abused by their superiors who are of like mind with you.

Peace (and hopefully some wisdom) be with you,
Andy


Jackie,

What you view as hate email to me is corrective love email. I was in the US Air Force. No one forced Christianity down my throats. There is no such thing as Christian coercive pressure regarding religion. We each have a right to believe in what we choose to believe. That is freedom. That is what Mikey Weinstein is trying to take away. Now, I don’t have pen pals. Before these emails, were we in correspondance?

(name withheld)

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