ISIS, lowlifes, chickens, and oh hey monkeys! (with MRFF responses)

YOU ALL NEED TO GO STRAIGHT TO FUCKING HELL. THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL PLACE FOR YOU THERE! OUR BRAVE KIDS SERVE TO PROTECT YOU CHICKEN SHITS AND THIS IS WHAT YOU DO?

GO JOIN ISIS, SEEMS THEY DONT LIKE CHRIST EITHER TRY LIVING UNDER THEIR RULES……. AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.

(name withheld)

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A response from MRFF Special Projects Manager Paul Loebe

Dear (name withheld),

Thank you for so cowardly reaching out to us. The level of determination shown in your inability to even place your real name here comes as no surprise for it is one of the many cowardly messages we receive daily. As all of us in MRFF tremble in our boots, not out of fear, but of stifled laughter. I will attempt my best to come up with a response to your ignorant mess of an attempt at using the English language.

The shit broth you jammed into your keyboard just confounds me. I begin to wonder where you received your education, then if you have an education, and then if you even know anything about “our country” or its founding principles.

As one of the brave kids who served to protect you (the actual chickenshit) I am appalled that you would consider my attempt to force the military to adhere to the Constitution would be in violation of said Constitution. But it also appears you’ve never read it. I guess the Bible told you to threaten us. After all that is what Christ mandated….(hint: he didn’t! He was a pretty lovable fellow)

Now that you bring ISIS up it’s of import to note that the enemies we face that utilize the same exact ideology and theology as ISIS. They are just not emboldened enough to act upon their own belief systems. We fight the Christian version of ISIS – the Dominionists – and protect nitwits like you from being subjugated by one extreme belief system. You are just so blinded by your own ignorance you fail to recognize the threat standing before you, probably in your mirror.

If I prayed I would pray that intelligence and reason would filter into your life like a waterfall.

Most Disrespectfully,
Paul Loebe
Special Projects Manager
Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Chicago, IL

*Disclaimer: Although I am a Marine Staff Sergeant I do not speak on behalf of the Department of Defense, United States Marine Corps, or any affiliated branches.*’

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A response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

Hi (withheld),

You seem to have allowed yourself to get very exercised over what you think happened. It’s sad to see so much vitriol coming from someone who, if I can infer it from your mention of what ISIS might not like, considers himself a Christian.

I wonder how, now that you’ve had time to think about your little tirade, you’d have felt if you’d learned that the MRFF was responsible for getting the responsible officials to remove the Koran from the rooms over which they had control, or perhaps the Book of Mormon? Maybe a book espousing atheism?

You see, the MRFF has no problem with the Bible. We have a problem with the government sponsoring, or appearing to sponsor, one religion or religious view over another. That violates the Constitution. If the men and women using those rooms choose to bring their own religious reading matter into them, that’s their business. It is not the role of the military in control of those rooms to sponsor or appear to sponsor one religion, even yours, over that of anyone else.

Best,

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)

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A response from the detractor

I just love the intellectual dishonesty on the left, I thought you folks are all about inclusion and diversity and independence. Yet when it comes to something you don’t like, those ideals somehow seem to become nonexistent. Such hypocrisy my friend, just amazing.

Focus on the separation between church and state? That’s always the standard liberal line. If you don’t like religion, don’t practice it, simple. If you want to drive a Prius, that’s fine but don’t force me to drive one. If you believe in Global warming, that’s your opinion. Show me the unbiased facts on any subject and I’ll believe it. However from my experience with government, business and academic community’s, facts are tweaked according to the answers that one wants to achieve.

Very seldom are the facts just facts. Unfortunately given our history,worldwide, facts get rewritten by those who don’t want too, or choose not too, live in reality. That my friend is a fact.

If you believe we currently have a separation of powers and accordingly, church and state, as it applies to this country from its inception, as being run today, then you and your group are truly delusional!  If you believe, as it appears in your multi pronged response, that your views are the only accepted doctrine, in all subject matter religious, then that’s a shame and shows that you have been subscripted into the doctrine of your leadership. The lost little lambs, the followers, somehow looking to make their unfortunate lives, whole. Your collected diatribe only proves that you are capable of following blindly, which has mostly been the purview of the intellectually uninformed for which the left lives to heal! Follow on this track from your leadership my friend. It’s better than the one Jim Jones provided.

And that’s a fact my friend.

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A response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

Hi (withheld),

You’re a wordy fellow, if a cynical one. Let me try to respond to both your recent messages.

Up top you testify to getting comfort from the Bible either when you were under fire and had it with you or later, after you survived the live fire and turned to it. That’s great. Good for you for having a belief that gives you the kind of comfort you deserve. But no one here is arguing with that, nor is anyone here saying, as you suggest, that we don’t like the Bible. As a matter of fact, over 90% of the staff, members and supporters of the MRFF are Christians. Our point is not that the Bible is wrong, it is that the U.S. military and its officials are wrong in providing (or allowing someone else to ‘provide’) a Bible for government sponsored rooms in a government facility. That suggests a U.S. Government preference for one religion over another and violates the separation of church and state.

Now in what is, I assume, your latest message, you insist on bringing politics into what is a legal, not a political question and make assumptions – incorrect ones, by the way – about the political views of the MRFF and those associated with it.

You decry the separation of church and state as “the standard liberal line,” though it is well established both in law and U.S. history. Then you trot out a bunch of opinions about current issues not under discussion here and follow it with the statement: “Show me the unbiased facts on any subject and I’ll believe it.” However, you follow that immediately with your assessment that “government, business and (the) academic community’s” facts can’t be trusted. And then a great line: “Very seldom are the facts just facts.”

And that, you apparently think, “is a fact.”

The rest of your message just makes me sad. You, poor soul, want to believe your cynical dismissal of any position or belief system that doesn’t accord with yours gives you the right, maybe the duty, to attack it. As a man who has been “under fire,” as you claim, presumably on behalf of his country, and was comforted by his religious belief, it’s a pity that you’ve chosen to insulate yourself in this blanket of fear that someone is going to take something away from you.

No one here wants to do that. And that’s a fact.

I wish you well.

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Advisory Board)