Very Curious American in Norway

Dear Mikey,

With all due respect sir. Seperation of church and state is the act of having a certain religion as the main religion for the state or in most cases, a country. Prime example is the middle east.
Why do you have this hatred toward the Christian faith? I checked out you facebook profile and saw your status about the extremism of Christian, have you heard of ISIS, AlQueda or others? My question is why do you not go after Muslims and the agenda they try to push. Is it because they will go to war with you and stand up for thei beliefs and not Christians.
The legal system is funny in America but I wonder if anyone ever started thinking of turning the tides around. You can threaten or demand to sue based off of what you think. I think I should be able to sue based on the fact that uou are trying to bully and push your agenda around. Based off of numbers the majority always win out but in fact you, people like you, and atheist are the minority in numbers. Maybe I should start a group then. Our nation was founded by people who recognized the power of God and it was part of traditions.
I live in Norway now. Even though they claim to be a Christian nation, their is more people that have humanistic beliefs. There are several atheists here as well, even American atheist. But guess what, we have Merry Christmas signs and advertisements all through out Oslo and other major cities. They have the Norwegian Gospel Choir sing in public during the holidays (nobody is force to listen). All the Christmas music that is basically banned now in America is played on radios and the school systems have kid concerts singing them. Wow! We celebrate Easter and the Pentecost every year. Norway is probably more prideful about their nation than America in where they hold traditions, I’ll say it again, traditions, seriously. No one os offended and we don’t have the humanistic groups and atheist running around saying you can’t do this and can’t do that or else I’m going to take you to court. And that sir is very nice!
I work with people that are atheist and I asked one last year why he was singing a Christian Christmas song? His reply was that it was tradition and he liked the song. I told him the story about how America has become towards marking out Christmas and anything related to God. He said “that is a disgrace”!
Thank you for your time sir.

“One nation, under God”
Psalm 118:8

It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

(name withheld)

Hi (name withheld),

Mikey is busy protecting the religious freedom of the women and men in the U.S. military, so has asked me to take the time to respond to your somewhat confusing message.

Norway is a beautiful country, so I can understand the desire to live there, but I hope you don’t spend a lot of time misrepresenting to your Norwegian friends what is happening here in the U.S. I say that because as I read your “respectful” message to Mikey I’m concerned about your apparent inability to discern right from wrong and your willingness to misrepresent the MRFF and its mission just as you misrepresent what is happening in America.

First of all, separation of church and state means nothing like what you indicate you think it means. The word ‘separation’ is an active form of the word separate. Separate, or separate (with the long A) whether used as an adjective or a verb, means discrete, unattached, apart, or divide, part from, etc. You see, the American legal term “separation of church and state” refers to the fact that the founders of this country wanted to ensure that there was no religious test, no requirement that someone had to believe a certain way, in order to be an American.

Your definition stands it on its head. What you apparently think it means, given your definition and the examples you’ve chosen, is a theocracy: a government by God, or a state or country ruled or controlled by a devotion to one religion.

That’s the very thing the MRFF is trying to protect against.

You see, because the law in the U.S. says that we are not invested in being of one religious belief, that people are free to believe as they choose, the government cannot and should not be promoting one religion over another. And because the U.S. military is part of the government, it cannot be seen to be promoting one religious view over another. Every woman and man in the military has the right to her or his personal belief system, and no superior can impose a belief system on one under his authority. That’s the law and that’s what the MRFF is here to ensure is taken seriously. The problem we have to deal with is that some in authority in the military have a very strong belief that their particular religion is the only right one and everyone should subscribe to it.

See, that’s a no-no. Those deeply religious folks are welcome to their belief, but they’re not allowed to promote it via the use of their authority. They can preach it in their house of worship, they can shout it from the rooftops, they can, I suppose, preach it on street corners as long as they are not doing it from an official position or with support of an official authority that can be taken as government endorsement.

I hope that’s clear to you now.

In answer to your other confusion about our understanding of ISIS or al Qaeda or other extremist groups (though you only single out Muslim groups for some reason, rather than pointing out the excesses of Jewish extremists in the Occupied Territories, Buddhist extremists debasing the Rohinga in Burma or Christian extremists killing doctors who perform medically necessary abortions), we would, of course, oppose them if they were in positions of authority in the U.S. military and were attempting to push their beliefs on those under their authority. But that’s not the situation we face in this country.

So, you see, we bully no one. The only “agenda” we have is that the law be honored and obeyed. Religious proselytizing by those in authority in the U.S. military, when imposed on those in their power, is wrong and that’s what we work to stop. Period.

Your confusion about our legal system is kind of baffling. You seem to be accusing Mikey of something when you say “you can threaten or demand to sue based off of what you think.” Aside from the grammatical confusion there seems to be mental confusion here. We defend the law. This is not about conjuring up an idea – such as you’ve done in your following sentence – and bringing a frivolous lawsuit. It’s about seeing to it that those in our government obey the law.

Contrary to what I can understand about your position, no one is arguing about “the power of God” or what you call “traditions.” We are perfectly happy to have people believe as they choose and enjoy the traditions those belief systems carry with them. We just don’t want the government involved in promoting them.

I hope that’s finally clear to you.

As to the rest of your message, we don’t oppose Christmas (most of our members and supporters are Christians), we don’t have a problem with Merry Christmas signs, etc., unless they are imposed by government authority on people who don’t share the belief. We even enjoy children’s choirs singing traditional songs.

Because you keep bringing up reference to atheists or atheism, let me be clear. If someone chooses to be an atheist, that’s her or his choice, just as is being any form of believer or non-believer. We do not promote or oppose any belief system. Our number includes people of many different beliefs. What we oppose is having one belief system – any one – imposed on those who do not have the ability or the power to withstand it.

As regards your opinion of what America is doing about Christmas, that’s not something we address. I’m afraid you’ll have to find someone else to write a respectful letter to about that.

Happy Holidays,

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)

> Hey (name withheld)

You got a helluva lot wrong. The Xtians lobbied Congress and Banned Our Spiritual Beliefs- : taking our lands and placing us in Concentration camps (Reservations) after we had thoroughly whipped their asses 8 to 1 with our Winchesters and Superior horses.Over 300 Treaties you scheming liars made with us and broke every one under your . “In God We Trust.” Larry McMurtry, Authr, Crazy Horse pg 84. Just because one does not believe in your Myth Jesus does not make he or She God less. No damn Way! We are extremely Spiritual People. You Norwegians stood up to the Christian Jew Murdering Germans and you of all people should realize who the Bigots, Haters and Spiritually Ignorant are in America. I was over in Sweden doing several Indigenous Sioux sweat lodges with innocent, non- threatening Swedes and Norwegians. I suppose you would hurl false accusations at them as well. Ed McGaa, Eagle Man, Sioux Author. Warrior. Mikey is simply trying to protect Democratic Freedom and you One Way, Non- Introspecting Idiots are trying to Thwart him. You will pay in the Spirit World where All truth and All Knowledge Reigns. Notice- I don’t send anonymous correspondence like 95% of the Cowards do that send Mikey Hate Mail. Gut Less Creeps pretending to defend their Geessuss who will have to answer in the Beyond some day. – You got a helluva lot wrong. The Xtians lobbied Congress and Banned Our Spiritual Beliefs- : taking our lands and placing us in Concentration camps (Reservations) after we had thoroughly whipped their asses 8 to 1 with our Winchesters and Superior horses.Over 300 Treaties you scheming liars made with us and broke every one under your . “In God We Trust.” Larry McMurtry, Authr, Crazy Horse pg 84. Just because one does not believe in your Myth Jesus does not make he or She God less. No damn Way! We are extremely Spiritual People. You Norwegians stood up to the Christian Jew Murdering Germans and you of all people should realize who the Bigots, Haters and Spiritually Ignorant are in America. I was over in Sweden doing several Indigenous Sioux sweat lodges with innocent, non- threatening Swedes and Norwegians. I suppose you would hurl false accusations at them as well. Ed McGaa, Eagle Man, Sioux Author. Warrior. Mikey is simply trying to protect Democratic Freedom and you One Way, Non- Introspecting Idiots are trying to Thwart him. You will pay in the Spirit World where All truth and All Knowledge Reigns. Notice- I don’t send anonymous correspondence like 95% of the Cowards do that send Mikey Hate Mail. Gut Less Creeps pretending to defend their Geessuss who will have to answer in the Beyond some day.

Hello (name withheld)! (If that is your real name)

With all due respect, I read your letter and all I could think was,”What the hell are you talking about?”
First off, you’re missing the point of MRFF entirely. MRFF stands for Military Religious Freedom Foundation….you probably don’t know that because it seems that the extent of your research is reading a Facebook post. MRFF’s sole purpose is to go after those in the U.S. military who are using their undue command influence to illegally proselytize to their subordinates. The reason MRFF doesn’t go after Muslims is because for the Muslims who are in the U.S. military are not the ones illegally proselytizing. If it seems that they go after Christians a lot, it is because a small subset of Christians (Dominionists) are the ones doing the majority of the illegal proselytizing. Judging from your lack of research skills, you probably are unaware that when you enlist into the U.S. military, you voluntarily give up some of your constitutionally guaranteed freedoms based on military necessity and good order and discipline. To put it in plain words (so you can understand) men and women in the U.S. military are held to more stringent standards regarding what they can and can’t say and when they can and cannot thier express religious and political views as opposed to the common U.S. citizen.
Unlike you, I was born and raised in Scandinavia. I’m Finnish from Finland, so I think I would know more about their views than you. Unfortunately, you are not that good at expressing your views so I am having difficulty trying to understand exactly what your point is (other than missing the point of MRFF entirely). Yes, Norway openly celebrates Christmas, so does the United States….what is your point? You seem to be saying that no one should be forced to be preached to or subject to unwanted religious proselytization. If you did any research into Mikey and MRFF, you’d actually be supporting him. He goes after those in the U.S. military who force their religion onto those who are not in a position (or rank) to stop it from happening. Now if there was a Muslim member of the U.S. military who openly supported ISIS and tried to push those beliefs onto his/her subordinates, then yes, MRFF would get involved. But as I stated above, if you do your research into MRFF (their website is a good start: you’ll see that it is by a vast majority only Dominionists illegally pushing their agenda throughout the U.S. military.
If you want to discuss religious issues in Scandinavia further or what MRFF’s mission truly is, feel free to respond to this e-mail.


Dear (name withheld),

Mikey has read your email and asked me to respond to you as an Advisory Board Member of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) and as an ordained minister in the Assemblies of God


Reading Mikey’s profile will not give you the whole story about the MRFF.

Mikey – who is an Agnostic Jew and NOT AN ATHEIST – is the face and Founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) but Mikey does not work alone. There is the Board, Advisory Board, volunteers and supporters of which 75% are Christians. A full 96% of our clients which number over 39,000+ soldiers (1 represents 100 and others represent 50) are mainline Christians which make us the biggest supporter for the rights of Christians in the military.

We DO NOT act on our own but on the request of our soldiers who are facing religious persecution (mainly to CHRISTIANS) from their military superiors and peers. Each complaint must be vetted before taking any action by Mikey who was a US Air Force JAG for 10 years.

We don’t care what civilian Christians do.

Not all Christians are equal in our military. If you are a Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Evangelical (not all are dominionists), Lutheran, etc. then you are not the “right kind” of Christian or “not Christian enough.”

US Army chaplain MAJ James Linzey, who, in a 1999 video, described mainstream Protestant churches as “demonic, dastardly creatures from the pit of hell “that should be “stomped out.”

If you practice your state religion of Evangelical-Lutheran, then according to our military YOU should be stomped out. Just imagine how our mainline Christians in the military feel hearing this on a daily basis.

As a matter of fact, we do go after the American form of ISIS and Al Qaeda better known as the Dominionists. They believe that every war is a “Crusade”, our soldiers are “Warriors for Christ” and “government paid missionaries.” Our military doesn’t cut off heads – we just blow everyone in our path to smithereens.

What’s the difference? Nothing.

Why do American laws sound funny to you if you are an American? You live under a Monarchy instead of an elected President but as a “Curious American in Norway” you should know about America’s Constitution and laws.

Under our Constitution we have a separation of state and church but you have a state religion.

As far as majority rule goes in America that is only applicable in our voting system, not religion. Our Constitution (ratified in 1788) guarantees the protection of the minority from the majority especially where religion is concerned.

Constitution of the Kingdom of Norway

All inhabitants of the Realm shall have the right to free exercise of their religion. The Evangelical-Lutheran religion shall remain the official religion of the State. The inhabitants professing it are bound to bring up their children in the same. (Article 2)

Constitution of the United States

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment (Establishment Clause) of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise (Free Exercise Clause) thereof . . . “(1st Amendment)

The Establishment Clause comes before the Free Exercise Clause for a reason; the Free Exercise Clause is subservient to the Establishment Clause – not the other way around as some Christians would like it to be.

“Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.” Thomas Jefferson, to the Virginia Baptists (1808) ME 16:320.

This is his second known use of the term “wall of separation,” here quoting his own use in the Danbury Baptist letter.

This wording of the original was several times upheld by the Supreme Court as an accurate description of the Establishment Clause.

“Jefferson’s concept of “separation of church and state” first became a part of Establishment Clause jurisprudence in Reynolds v. U.S., 98 U.S. 145 (1878). In that case, the court examined the history of religious liberty in the US, determining that while the constitution guarantees religious freedom, “The word ‘religion’ is not defined in the Constitution. We must go elsewhere, therefore, to ascertain its meaning and nowhere more appropriately, we think, than to the history of the times in the midst of which the provision was adopted.” The court found that the leaders in advocating and formulating the constitutional guarantee of religious liberty were James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. Quoting the “separation” paragraph from Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists, the court concluded that, “coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment thus secured.”

The Supreme Court heard the Lemon v. Kurtzman case in 1971 and ruled in favor of the Establishment Clause.

Subsequent to this decision, the Supreme Court has applied a three-pronged test to determine whether government action comports with the Establishment Clause, known as the “Lemon Test”

Lemon Test:

1. Any law or policy must have been adopted with a neutral or non-religious purpose.

2. The principle or primary effect of any law or policy must be one that neither advances nor inhibits religion.

3. The statute or policy must not result in an “excessive entanglement” of government with religion.

If any government entity’s actions (including our military) fit into one of these three, then it is a violation of the Establishment Clause.

The second is the Parker v. Levy:

“This Court has long recognized that the military is, by necessity, a specialized society separate from civilian society… While the members of the military are not excluded from the protection granted by the First Amendment, the different character of the military community and of the military mission requires a different application of those protections. … The fundamental necessity for obedience, and the consequent necessity for imposition of discipline, may render permissible within the military that which would be constitutionally impermissible outside it… Speech [to include religious speech] that is protected in the civil population may nonetheless undermine the effectiveness of response to command. If it does, it is constitutionally unprotected.” (Emphasis added) Parker v. Levy, 417 U.S. 733, 1974

The third is the Air Force has strict rules on religious neutrality. This is binding on everyone in the Air Force.


Air Force Instruction 1-1

7 August 2012

2.11. Government Neutrality Regarding Religion. Leaders at all levels must balance constitutional protections for an individual’s free exercise of religion or other personal beliefs and the constitutional prohibition against governmental establishment of religion. For example, they must avoid the actual or apparent use of their position to promote their personal religious beliefs to their subordinates or to extend preferential treatment for any religion. Commanders or supervisors who engage in such behavior may cause members to doubt their impartiality and objectivity. The potential result is a degradation of the unit’s morale, good order, and discipline. Airmen, especially commanders and supervisors, must ensure that in exercising their right of religious free expression, they do not degrade morale, good order, and discipline in the Air Force or degrade the trust and confidence that the public has in the United States Air Force.

As you can see, our military is secular and must remain that way.

America is not a Christian nation and tradition doesn’t make it one.

The Treaty of Tripoli

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” (ratified unanimously from the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797, and signed by Adams, taking effect as the law of the land on June 10, 1797).

You live by the laws of Norway and our military must live by the laws of the United States.

We make sure they do.

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. (Romans 13:1-2)

We are obeying God’s word. You would do well to do it, too.

Pastor Joan

MRFF Advisory Board Member

Hi (name withheld) –

Mikey Weinstein has asked if I’d take a moment to respond to your email. I’m an AF veteran, a lifelong and committed Christian, and an MRFF supporter. One of the ways that I provide support is with email correspondence such as this — but I have to say, in this case, crafting a reply to you is tougher than usual… because your email is really all over the place.

Perhaps it’s easiest to start by dispensing with the items in your note that are beyond of the focus and mission of MRFF. That includes the threat posed by ISIS and Al Qaeda — certainly something that should be of concern to all people of good will, but not something that is within the mission of MRFF. As well, how Christmas is celebrated in Norway is beyond the focus and mission of MRFF, as are radio station playlists and the choice of tunes that your atheist friend chooses to sing.

To be frank, I’m left to wonder if you know anything at all about MRFF and our mission. The focus of our organization is very simple — our efforts are dedicated to ensuring that all members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the Constitutional guarantees of religious freedom to which they and all Americans are entitled by virtue of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

In other words, to help all military members to secure their right to believe, or to not believe, whatever they wish, without undue pressure or influence from superiors in their chain of command. This includes protecting the religious rights of ALL faiths, including Christians, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, Mormons, Buddhists, Free Thinkers, Atheists, and any/every other conceivable belief system.

I appreciate your passion, but I’d strongly encourage you to do some research and investigation before you get too worked up or offended at any group or individual, so that your efforts can be more productive and informed. Thanks for writing to MRFF.


Mike Challman
Christian, AF Veteran, MRFF Supporter

This is what got me mad, Christian school’s ROTC under attack
They have the right to hire Christian staff members.

I’ve listen to Mikey debating in the past on Megan Kelly with Fox about last years nativity scene. I have a good understanding of what this organization message is about. I think this organizations gets more people like me a little fed up. As a Christian, what kind of message are you sending. It just seems like organizations don’t need watchdog groups as in your group or the guys up in Wisconsin.

I’ve had several emails from friends of Mikey today, mainly rude but I thank you for your politeness.
If you guys mission is really about making sure no government agency promote a certain religion, how about telling that to Obama who has more than one time try to promote Islam.

Thanks again for you politeness.

Best regards
(name withheld)

Hi (name withheld) —

Thanks for the follow-up note — it helps a great deal to understand the source of your concern.

The Wheaton College story has been frustrating for me, because Fox News, Todd Starnes and others who are ‘reporting’ about it are not reporting the pertinent facts… nor do they seem interested in doing even a tiny bit of research to understand the rules that guide ROTC detachments.

Here is what they are not saying —

ROTC detachments are not the ‘property’ of the college where they are based. They belong to the US military, and assignments to those detachments are made available to military members just like any other assignment. So, since it is a military assignment, it is against the law for the military to impose a ‘religious test’ in order the qualify for the assignment.

The fact that the school would prefer to have military members assigned who align with the school’s sectarian beliefs is understandable and a nice thought, but there is no way to do that without the military coming into direct conflict with the ‘no religious test’ requirement in the US Constitution.

Hope this info helps. Peace.


Dear (name withheld),

Mikey is very busy, protecting the religious rights of Christians and others in our military, so he has asked that I respond to your email.

Clearly, you have your facts wrong. I am happy to help you learn the truth.

First, “separation of church and state” means the government shall have no religion and shall favor no religion. We do this, because the first 13 colonies, from which our nation grew, each had its own state-run religion. All were Christians, and each was a different type who believed the rest were less Christian or not really Christian at all. Each also used its religious views to elevate what it considered the right sort of Christians over any others who claimed to be Christian and moreso over those who had the audacity and courage to admit to being nonChristian.

To bring these colonies together, to fight a revolution for freedom from England and the English church, all had to set aside their sense of being special and more important based on their colonial religions. That taught us something: If we run our government without religious bias, welcome all regardless of religion, and allow every single individual freedom of conscience, to believe whatever she or he chooses, we work together and become far more effective in our management of national resources and international relations. That is good governance.

We don’t do a perfect job of it. There are still Americans who claim to be Christian, yet — in a very un-Jesus-like manner — refuse to give other Christians credit for their beliefs. You can just imagine what they think of blatant non-Christians. Indeed, they give preference to Muslims over atheists, because atheists dare to have no belief in any god, whatsoever. The most extreme among such uber-Christians believe it is their God-given duty to force everyone else to convert to their specific views, too, including and especially the view that they are to take dominion over the entire world. That is why they are called “Dominionists.”

Dominionists are like ISIS, Al Quaida, etc., in that way. They use different techniques, though some are very much into weapons and violence. They have their own strategy, too. It’s called “The Seven Mountains”, by which they divide their targets into seven categories, then break them down from there.

Government, itself, is one category. Since the dawn of the modern Dominionist movement, in the 1940s, they have used fear to push through legislation to further their goals. Fear of “godless Communists” led to changing our original, well-designed national motto, “E Pluribus Unum” to “In God We Trust.” The Latin one translates to “Out of Many, One”, because we turned many people of many cultural and religious, socioeconomic and other backgrounds into one unified nation, once upon a time. The newer one is unfortunately reminiscent of the Nazi belt buckle, which prominently proclaimed “Gott Mit Uns”, meaning, “God is With Us.”

Every religious group thinks it’s got God right and everyone else has God wrong. Dominionists had our Pledge of Allegiance, originally very deliberately written without any religious inference, modified to include “under God.” It used to say, in part, “… one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” That rang true, under “E Pluribus Unum.” Now, it says, “… one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” Now, it lies. How can it be “indivisible” if it divides out those who do not believe in God or those who believe in a different, i.e., nonChristian version of God, or those who believe in many gods? How can it provide anything “for all” when it has already made clear it applies only to those who believe they are “under God”?

Within the Seven Mountains designation of government is our military. The military is, and must be, a completely different cultural environment from civilian life. There are fewer freedoms, like the freedom to quit a job, take a day off, move wherever one wants to live in this enormous nation or move to another nation. One cannot just quit if the boss is a problem, or refuse an order. We must be able to depend on our military, and for that, its members must have “unit cohesion” (get along well, together, in order to work most effectively), “good order” (stay organized in order to stay effective), and “discipline” (follow orders without argument, because, in war, there isn’t time for discussion).

Mikey Weinstein and the rest of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation work to protect our military members from religious abuse. That is, if one’s chain of command orders participation in a religious activity, it does so against the rights of the individual as written in our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and our laws. Such attendance, under orders, is anything but voluntary. This is what we fight against. We fight against illegal actions forcing our brave military members to accept or appear to accept a religion just because they feel ordered and forced to, whether it’s bowing their heads at some religiously specific prayer or standing at attention or at ease for same. All are welcome to attend whatever church they WANT, but none must ever be forced.

Now, you seem to think we are anti-Christian and that we should be working against ISIS and Al Quaida. The fact is that 96% of the nearly 40,000 named military members we’ve represented and helped, so far, claim to be Christian. In nearly 100% of the cases, they felt they were being told they weren’t Christian enough by the standards of their commander or others above them in their chains of command.

Every single military member and every civilian holding office in this nation takes an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” A military member forcing his underlings to submit to his religious preferences is not only unethical, illegal, and unconscionable, it is in breach of his or her own oath. There is nothing in the oath about Christianity nor any other religion, nothing about the flag or the nation, per se. It is all about the Constitution, on which our nation is based.

We demand our military respect its members’ individual religious rights, no matter how politically aggressive Dominionists behave, no matter how much a commander, for example, believes God gave him that command in order to force his underlings to become modern day Crusaders, to take Dominion over the world for Christ, and no matter how subtle and innocent the actions might seem, diplomatically phrased and coming from a Christian. We recognized that, were the same coming from a Muslim, every Christian, and possibly every non-Muslim along with many truly patriotic American Muslims, would cry foul. What is unConstitutional is illegal, and what effectively destroys the religious rights of an individual, to believe what he or she chooses, is illegal, unConstitutional, and unAmerican, even within our military.

I hope this clarifies things for you.

A military Veteran, patriotic American, and staunch supporter of MRFF

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