Disgraceful

You represent the most disgusting organization this side of the ACLU, American Nazi Party, CPUSA, and KKK.

Thankfully, judgment is a certainty and Mr. Weinstein’s future – and the rest of your staff – is secure.  And eternity is forever.  I’m sure you’ll be able to “argue” your way out of what is before you.

(name withheld)

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Dear (name withheld),

I’m sure Jesus wants to know when He gave you permission to sit on His Judgment Seat and condemn those to “eternity” (hell) when you have no idea what we do.

 

Our Mission:

 

“The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is the sole nonprofit civil rights organization dedicated to ensuring that all members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the Constitutional guarantee of both freedom of religion and freedom from religion, to which they and all Americans are entitled.”

Fighting for our servicemembers’ rights, so they can fight for ours.

 

We do this under the 1st Amendment of the Constitution which states “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment (Establishment Clause) of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise (Free Exercise Clause) thereof…”

 

The Establishment Clause comes before the Free Exercise Clause for a reason; the Free Exercise Clause is subservient to the Establishment Clause – not the other way around as some Christians would like it to be.

 

The Supreme Court heard the Lemon v. Kurtzman case in 1971 and ruled in favor of the Establishment Clause.

 

Subsequent to this decision, the Supreme Court has applied a three-pronged test to determine whether government action comports with the Establishment Clause, known as the Lemon Test:

 

Any law or policy must have been adopted with a neutral or non-religious purpose.
The principle or primary effect of any law or policy must be one that neither advances nor inhibits religion.
The statute or policy must not result in an “excessive entanglement” of government with religion.
 

If any government entity’s actions fit into one of these three, then it is a violation of the Establishment Clause.

 

Treaty of Tripoli:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion – November 4, 1796

 

“Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.” Thomas Jefferson, to the Virginia Baptists (1808) ME 16:320

 

The majority doesn’t rule over the minority where religion is concerned in our government. All of our soldiers are free to practice any belief they want or no belief.

 

“Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.” Romans 13:1-2

 

We are obeying God by forcing our military to follow our Constitutional Laws. You, on the other hand, are not.

 

Jesus said “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.” Matthew 7:1-2

 

“But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.” Matthew 12:36-37

 

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray FOR (not against) those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.  If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?  And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? (Matthew 5:43-48)

 

Jesus left His criteria for who is going to heaven and who is going to hell in Matthew 25:31-46. I suggest you read it before passing YOUR judgment on to others ever again.

It looks like you’re the one that is in a whole heap of trouble at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

Pastor Joan

MRFF Advisory Board Member

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Dear (name withheld),

I am a proud Christian supporter of MRFF’s work to protect members of the U.S. Military from unconstitutional religious influence in relation to their training, assignment, advancement, retention and benefits.
 
Aside from your personal disgrace displayed in nebulous, non-specific, and mealy-mouthed condemnation, I find your disgraceful and impotent email attempt at an epithet to be remarkable for one other reason.  You have pathetically attempted to disguise your judgment that any Christian would find offensive in that the judgment you make is reserved for someone WAY ABOVE your pay grade.
 
I suggest you get over yourself and contemplate further  your disgraceful display of wishful self-importance.
 
Andy Kasehagen
 
 

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It’s not judgment or condemnation, it’s discernment.  You’ve allowed yourself to be misled.  
 
You remind me of the pastor’s message this morning from Proverbs, Ch 6: “These 6 things the Lord hates…a heart that devises wicked plans…feet that are swift in running to evil…one who sows discord among brethren…”  These sum up the activities of your organization.
 
But we’ll pray for you, nonetheless.

(name withheld)

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Dear (name withheld),

Discernment…BULLSHIT!  Sounds like you’re trying to ‘lawyer-up’ before you’re judged yourself.
 
Keep your prayers and selective biblical quotations for yourself…
 
Here’s a few New Testament passages for your judgmental nature.
 
Romans 2:1
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
 
Matthew 7:3
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?Luke 6:37
Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
 
I always find it laughably interesting when “Christians” such as you rely almost exclusively on Old Testament passages for your attempted condemnation of others while ignoring guidance provided in the New Testament. 
 
I’ll let you figure out your own ridiculous religious hypocrisy for yourself on that one pilgrim.  
 
Andy

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Dear (name withheld) –

Mikey Weinstein has read your email and asked if I would offer a response.  I’m a Christian and AF veteran who also supports the efforts of MRFF.  I would guess, based upon your apparent belief that you know the mind of God, that you are also a Christian. If so, then it seems that perhaps you worship a very different god than the Christian God whom I worship — you know, the one who cautions us not to judge others.  Unless, of course, you are suggesting that you believe that you will see Mikey Weinstein in heaven.  Yes, that makes more sense because you indicate that you are ‘thankful’ about a Divine judgement whose outcome you believe you already know… and a good Christian would not find joy in the misfortune for others.

So while you may have little desire to become better informed, I’ll still take a moment to explain to you what MRFF is actually about.  We are not an anti-religious organization; we are a pro-Constitution one.  In fact, I’d argue that MRFF is more ‘pro-religious freedom’ than the majority of organizations that claim that title, when in fact they are only interested in defending the rights of like-minded Christians.  MRFF is dedicated to ensuring that ALL members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the Constitutional guarantees of religious freedom to which they and all Americans are entitled by virtue of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

That means we support the rights of all manner of believer and non-believer — Christians, Jews, Muslims, Druids, Hindus, Buddhists, Rastafarians, Sikhs, Freethinkers, Atheists… and any other possible belief.  I’m puzzled that you would find such a mission to be “disgraceful” — I’d suggest that it is both honorable and necessary.

Sadly, there are some people who believe that ONLY their own particular beliefs are entitled to Constitutional protection, and even some who expect that their beliefs should be given prominence and preference within US governmental and military institutions.  You may know some people like this.  It is those people who are a threat to true religious liberty in America, because they would refuse the same rights to anyone who doesn’t believe what they believe.  And it is the actions of those people (not their specific beliefs, mind you, but their unconstitutional actions) that are the reason MRFF must exist.

My advice to you, as a fellow believer, is to consider being less judgmental and becoming more informed about the importance of protecting the Constitutional rights of all Americans, not just those with whom you agree.

Peace,

Mike Challman
Christian, AF Veteran, MRFF Supporter

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Dear (name withheld).,

You have a strange way of expressing your choice of spirituality. Your certitude about judgment and eternity are apparently comforting to you, but your lumping of the ACLU together with the extreme right, the extreme left and extremist white Christian Americans exposes a rather confused vision of the world.

As you’re puzzling over that, we’ll continue to protect the freedom of religious – or non-religious – choice of the women and men in our military.

Thanks.

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)