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Published On: September 10, 2016|Categories: MRFF's Inbox|Comments Off on West Point|

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Fork you Mikey you degnerate LIberal POS.

Those boys can pray anytime anywhere you disgusting scum. In fact, I am praying you and your fat wife get cancer and die.

Amen arseshole!!!

GFYCS scum

(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Joan Slish
Dear (name withheld),
Whoa! As a Christian I am shocked that such filth is coming out of another Christian’s mouth!
 
No, they can’t pray anytime, anywhere in the military and the media and Christian writers know this.
 
As defenders of the Constitution we fight for the separation of church and state.
 
“…but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” (Article I, III)
This means that from the President to Congress to the military – no one’s job is based on their religion.
 
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (Establishment Clause), or prohibiting the free exercise thereof (Free Exercise Clause).”(First Amendment)
 
The Establishment Clause means that you cannot favor one religion over another even though it is in the majority. This clause respects the rights of all religions. Our military is secular and there are people of other faiths that don the uniform that love this country. 
 
The Free Exercise Clause (which is subservient to the Establishment Clause) means that our soldiers are free to exercise any religion they want or no religion at all but cannot elevate one God above others.
 
“Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.” Thomas Jefferson, to the Virginia Baptists (1808) ME 16:320. 
 
This is his second known use of the term “wall of separation,” here quoting his own use in the Danbury Baptist letter.
 
This wording of the original was several times upheld by the Supreme Court as an accurate description of the Establishment Clause.
 
“Jefferson’s concept of “separation of church and state” first became a part of Establishment Clause jurisprudence in Reynolds v. U.S., 98 U.S. 145 (1878). In that case, the court examined the history of religious liberty in the US, determining that while the constitution guarantees religious freedom, “The word ‘religion’ is not defined in the Constitution. We must go elsewhere, therefore, to ascertain its meaning and nowhere more appropriately, we think, than to the history of the times in the midst of which the provision was adopted.” The court found that the leaders in advocating and formulating the constitutional guarantee of religious liberty were James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. Quoting the “separation” paragraph from Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists, the court concluded that, “coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment thus secured.
 
In 1878 “separation of church and state” became part of the Establishment Clause by law.
 
The Supreme Court heard the Lemon v. Kurtzman case in 1971 and ruled in favor of the Establishment Clause.
 
Subsequent to this decision the Supreme Court has applied a three-pronged test to determine whether government action comports with the Establishment Clause, known as the Lemon Test:
 
Government action violates the Establishment Clause unless it:
1. has a significant secular (i.e., non-religious) purpose,
2. does not have the primary effect of advancing or inhibiting religion
3. does not foster excessive entanglement between government and religion
 
Parker v. Levy: 
 “This Court has long recognized that the military is, by necessity, a specialized society separate from civilian society… While the members of the military are not excluded from the protection granted by the First Amendment, the different character of the military community and of the military mission requires a different application of those protections. … The fundamental necessity for obedience, and the consequent necessity for imposition of discipline, may render permissible within the military that which would be constitutionally impermissible outside it… Speech that is protected in the civil population may nonetheless undermine the effectiveness of response to command.  If it does, it is constitutionally unprotected.”  Parker v. Levy, 417 U.S. 733, 1974
 
By telling all of the players to kneel, touch someone and let’s pray is a violation of the Separation of Church and State under the First Amendment, Lemon v. Kurtzman, the Lemon Test and Parker v. Levy.
 
Superintendent Lt. Gen. Caslen of West Point even agrees with us: 
 
We are neither an atheist organization nor are we anti-Christian. Mikey is Jewish (and prays to the same Father we do 3 times a day) and 80% of the Board, Advisory Board, volunteers and supporters (300 in total) of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) are Christians. In fact, 96% of our 47,300 soldier clients are Christians.
 
Check out our mission statement to get to know us better instead of the lies you hear:
 
Check out the honorable and distinguished military personnel whom we rely on for their expertise in religious neutrality in the military that you called “degnerateLIberal POS” and to “GFYCS scum”:
 
FYI –Mikey’s wife is a very slender, beautiful woman.
 
You are a reprehensible example of a Christian and soon the whole world will know it. Go to our website and click on Inbox. You will be there shortly for everyone to see.
 
I need to take a shower.
 
Joan Slish
MRFF Advisory Board Member

Response from MRFF Presidnet Mikey Weinstein

Number one; you’ll give me your exact address and location and you will do it now… Number two; answer the question as to whether you intended to communicate a threat to me, my wife, my family and/or the Military Religious Freedom Foundation…

Mikey Weinstein

 

GFY hooknose and fat wife, we are in Okinawa.

(name withheld)

Response from MRFF President Mikey Weinstein

Awwwww, Did you get your little feelings hurt because the Constitution was upheld at West Point due to our civil rights activism on behalf of our 90 clients there, little sport?….There, there you will be OK… Get some Kleenex and consider reapplying for that GED right away… :-)

Mikey Weinstein

say it to my face hooknose, we will see, im closer than u think

(name withheld)

Response from MRFF President Mikey Weinstein

Wait a minute I just want to make sure of something; are you actually threatening me?… “Threatening” is a BIG word which means communicating to do harm… I thought that might be a little difficult for you to understand so I wanted to give you the definition… In fact, why don’t you tell me exactly where you are so we can pass this onto law enforcement , little pathetically and poorly uneducated creampuff…

Mikey Weinstein

 

Make sure of this, GFY. We are neighbors so it would just be coinincidence I am sure, hooknose. Your wife is one ugly cow btw.

(name withheld)

Response from MRFF President Mikey Weinstein

What’s the matter, chump, does the “cat got your tongue” with regard to your specific location?… You WILL answer me yes or no and you WILL do it immediately: are you or are you not specifically communicating a threat to me and my wife and my family?

Mikey Weinstein,

Response from Special Assistant to the President, Director of US Army Affairs Blake Page

Aren’t you just the picture of a lady?
Those boys can pray anytime anywhere.  That coach just can’t be the one to tell them to.
I’m sure your god is proud of you and your disgusting tirade.  Jesus loves the potty-mouth?
KCCO scum,
-Blake
 Response from MRFF Supporter

Mikey was busy preventing Christian supremacist crypto-fascists from persecuting those over whom they’ve been mistakenly granted power and asked me to reply to you.

 

Since you wrote under a pseudonym I know you’ll understand why I reply ‘in the blind’… no need to have trolls crapping in my main inbox, eh?

 

I’m sure Mikey was touched by the ‘Christian charity’ you display in your disgustingly Christian ‘prayer’ for him & his wife… just about what we expect from your ilk and, were we not constantly exposed to those who take the teachings of the Christ they believe in to heart, we’d think that all Christians were as demented & ignorant as you.  But we know better than to take you as an exemplar of anything other than what Mikey & we at MRFF stand against.

By the way ”arsehole’ only has one ‘s’… guess that GED didn’t pay off… a shame & a waste of money you could have spent on more beer, eh?

 

In closing, since you’re so defensive about ‘those boys’ nonexistent right to ‘pray anytime anywhere’ which does not exist in the military context, here are a few thoughts about your offensive attitude in defense of what I assume are your ‘beliefs’: Ephesians 4:29 , Matthew 15:11 , Colossians 4:6 , Proverbs 15:1-2 , Ephesians 5:4 , Proverbs 17:28

 

Goodbye.

 

Marshalldoc.

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

Oh, (name withheld),

My, my, how silly of you to send so vile a message to someone you don’t know about something you don’t understand.

I don’t, of course, expect you to fully comprehend the asininity of your assault, even after reading the below message from the officer in command of the Academy, because you are a poor, benighted fool. But I do hope it gives you just a moment of pause.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/09/10/top-west-point-general-valid-concerns-raised-about-prayer-after-army-football-game/

Here’s to the confusion you may experience after enjoying the general’s interview.

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)
 Response from MRFF Legal Affairs Coordinator Tobanna Barker
 Dear (name withheld),
I am writing in response to your September 10, 2016 email to the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (“MRFF”).

 

“Fork you?”  Really?  You either ignorantly believe that using an elementary school substitute for profanity somehow erases the appalling (and extremely un-Christian) nature of your comments or you are incapable of proofreading what you write.  I will let you decide which one of these people you want to be – the options are equally obnoxious.

 

I am truly thankful that you are not an accurate example of how true Christians behave.  While you are praying for the death of someone who has devoted his life to helping our service members, you should also pray for some understanding of the religious principles you pretend to hold so dear.

 

Blessed be,

 

Tobanna Barker

 

 

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