Imbecilic complaint against chaplains

Mikey dear, chaplains are supposed to do these things, that’s why we have them.They are also citizens of America and so are entitled to freedom of speech and freedom OF religion.Even you ,alas, are entitled to your present opinion but you are treading on others rights when you try to silence them.face book is the verbal diarrhea catchall of the world,it’s nice when they allow good stuff on. The chaplains are military chaplains ,you know the American governments military?! They provide chaplains so service men will have access to their freedoms. It is not compulsory,neither is Facebook .Facebook is not the government ,….or is it?your job is superfluous, we have the Constitution and bill of Rights,and God.
What u got besides nitpicking and whiney

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere

On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:15 AM, John Compere  wrote:

 

For your information, the US Constitution, American law & US Armed Forces regulations prohibit our secular military, as part of our secular government, from promoting or endorsing a religion except in military chapels or military chaplain channels (e.g. military chaplain Facebook pages). Military chaplains may not proselytize their religion version on official military channels(e.g. commander, unit or installation Facebook pages) which are strictly secular by law & regulation. Military chaplains are advised & aware of this legal restriction. That is why the unlawful practice was stopped by the military itself after complaints from military members, including Christians. Even military chaplains have to obey the laws & regulations.
 
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (over 80% Christians)

I stand corrected, my apologies. Thank you for you explanation.God Bless.
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

On Apr 26, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Mike  wrote:
Hi (name withheld),
 
Your message, snide and petulant as it is, nonetheless clearly conveys your total ignorance of the situation
you seem to think you’re addressing. That makes it hard to properly respond beyond dismissing your maunderings and move on to someone with a coherent point to offer and possibly discuss.
 
If you ever develop the ability to raise a point worth discussing we’d be happy to welcome you back and explain what actually happened and why it was dealt with as it was.
 
Absent that, please continue to content yourself with vacuity.
 
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)

If I am ignorant of the situation,please enlighten me,I am not incapable of an apology if wrong.yes was snide and pedantic,imperious ?
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

On Apr 27, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Mike wrote:

 

Thank you. To explain:
 
Mr. Donohue, the author of the tract that has so inflamed his followers, lied when claiming Mikey Weinstein
is an “anti-Christian activist.” That is simply false. Over 95% of those involved with the Military Religious Freedom Foundation are Christians.
 
Further, Mr. Donohue misinformed you and mischaracterized the situation at hand, evidently trying to stir up anger and encourage his followers to defend the faith. The faith is not being attacked.
 
It’s actually a relatively simple matter of obeying military regulations. For legal reasons, religious expression in the U.S. Military is to be guided by honoring concerns about the proper time, place and manner.
 
The MRFF agrees that military personnel have every right to pray. We have no objection to prayer. We object to inappropriate proselytizing. You see, chaplains have a face book page whereon they can do all the praying and lecturing and teaching and enlightening they’d like. But that’s a separate page from that of the unit leader or commanding officer. The Commander’s page may not be used to promote one particular belief system over others because doing so implies government endorsement of a particular faith and violates the separation of church and state.
 
The chaplains’ speeches were on the wrong page. We received complaints about it, checked it out and reported it to the base authorities. They in turn looked at it, agreed and took them down.
 
I assume, but don’t know, they were simply moved to the chaplain’s page. That’s what should have happened. Whether or not he checked I don’t know, but Mr. Donohue assumed the worst and issued his call to arms.
 
I hope that helps you better understand the situation.
 
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)

My profound apologies, should have checked the facts instead of reacting so ignorantly and so rudely.I think Mr.Donahue was too hasty…and so was I.I regret offending the people who do so much for us.
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:21 PM, Mike  wrote:

 

(name withheld), you do my heart good. Thank you.
 
We have been so buried in outpourings of anger and insult as a result of this episode it has made for
a heaviness in my heart. Your generous and understanding response rekindles my faith in the fundamental decency of people.
 
Thank you again.
 
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)

When your heart gets heavy,let me know ,I’ll pray and tell you of how a.lost everyone loves and supports our military and vets.
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
On Apr 28, 2020, at 1:34 AM, Mike  wrote:

 

That again is kind of you. But I confess that I’m not sure I understand what “a lost everyone” is.
 
I do know that no one cares more for or works harder on behalf of the troops and the vets than Mikey
Weinstein. But that’s just my observation.
 
Mike Farrell
(MRFF)

 
 

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11 Comments

  1. Grey One talks sass

    Thank you letter writer for accepting the facts as told by Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired). You are a rare soul.

    MRFF – is there any action you can take against Bill Donahue for promoting lies? I get he’s a propagandist for the Catholic church but lies in the name of a deity are still lies. And the rules old Bill wants plastered everywhere are very specific about bearing falsehoods.

    I admit to animosity towards Mr Bill. His lies about LGBTQA people have caused a lot of harm and death over the years. He’s one of three people I would not offer my fluids to especially if they were on fire.

  2. Infidel

    There are no lies about homosexuals, they are sexual degenerates by their own choice along with transgenders, all whom Christ died for but must repent of their sins otherwise they have no hope of heaven whether they be Jewish, Muslim, Christian, etc.

  3. Karen the rock whisperer

    Sigh. Infidel, you are clearly another Christian who ignores science because it conflicts with his Holy Book. People with an uncommon sexual orientation and people whose gender identity is not in lock-step with their gender assigned at birth are not degenerate. (Oh, and those two categories are not correlated with one another. Gender identity is different from sexual orientation.) Adults who have sex only with other consenting adults are not doing anything that is anyone’s business but their own, and if such people want long-term relationships codified by the government, it is beneficial for both them and any children they might have. If these people are somehow pissing off your god, that’s between them and that god and not your problem.

  4. Infidel

    God only created male and female, not freaks or those who do abominations. Homosexuality and transgenderism is nothing but a choice, no one is born gay or transgender period.

  5. Mark Sebree

    Infidel,

    Not that you care in the blindness of your bigotry, but science (i.e. reality) says otherwise.

    Also, nobody is bound by your hateful and intolerant religion except you. Your beliefs do not apply to anyone except you. Your opinion of what is and is not a “sin” is just that, your opinion. You do not have the right to dictate to anyone else what their beliefs are, nor what is and is not a “sin” according to their beliefs and opinions.

    Additionally, it is none of your business who people love, marry, and/or have sex with, assuming that it is between consenting adults with the full knowledge of all directly involved parties. That means that you can just butt out of other people’s business because it does not affect you and it harms nobody. Your opinions of “spiritual” or “metaphysical” harm do not count since you do not care about such harm that you would inflict on them by your hatred and intolerance.

  6. Infidel

    Ahh poor Marky is upset and confused

  7. Grey One talks sass

    Infidel,

    I find those who assert their faith and only their faith is the only answer for everyone period end of discussion are really the ones who are confused.

    This quarantine must be so difficult for you; trapped in your home with no one to bully but your family. I mean, yeah, you get to do what you do but laying your faith on the unwashed masses – that’s the money shot, amirite?

    Anyone in your little circle get sick yet? Have they died? Perhaps you have thoughts on that as well Infidel.

  8. Grey One talks sass

    Karen and Mark – we knock one down (SARSU) and another pops up. Perhaps it’s even the same person?

    No matter – they all sound the same like a twisted Sinclair ‘Must Broadcast’ announcement.

  9. Jeff

    Infidel: in the USA, you don’t get to decide whose sexual preference or gender identity is ok or not ok. We have a constitution here. You are not a dictator in a dictatorship. Your alleged religion teaches of humility and compassion – not of ignorant condemnation of others. I recommend that you face your own character problems and do something about them, rather than smearing others and lying about people you don’t know.

  10. Jeff

    Are you a freak?

  11. Mark Sebree

    Infidel,

    Unlike you, I am not confused at all. I am upset at you for working to deny people equal rights, and working towards destroying this country and turning it into a theocracy or theonomy. The is a a reasonable reason to be upset at you, and it means that I am also keeping my oath to defend this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic, even when I have been out of the military for over 20 years.

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