Eagle Scout shaming

What kind of Organization berates an Eagle Scout for acknowledging Jesus and our soldiers? Shame on you. Shame on you.

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Supporter Andy Meyer

 

You asked “What kind of Organization berates an Eagle Scout for acknowledging Jesus and our soldiers? Shame on you. Shame on you.”
I agree with you! I am not aware of any organization that would do that.  I belong to MRFF and also a member of the Boy Scouts of America.  I am also a Christian and believed that Jesus Christ died for our sins!  If you come across ANY organizations that berates Eagles Scouts, please please let me know!!  
 
 
Now if by small, very slim chance you are referring to the issue in Monument Colorado- please educate yourself.   I am quite certain you are not talking about that.  
 
Andy Meyer 
Eagle Scout
Scoutmaster
MRFF Member at large
Christian Member at large!!

Why yes I am referring to the Colorado Memorial. Your point of view destroyed this young man’s beautiful sentiments. 
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Supporter Andy Meyer

Well (name withheld), you are truly mistaken. Are you an Eagle Scout? Are you a Christain? Are you an American? Did you ever serve in the military? Do you believe in the US constitution?

 
If any of this is a yes- than you should know what we are doing is not ruining anyone’s sentiments.  Please, educate yourself.
 
Andy

Response from MRFF Supporter Renee Reif
Dear (name withheld),

You have not been given all the facts.  No one is berating the Eagle Scout. Rather, we are focused on the violations and the fact that this young man was failed by all of the adults in his sphere of influence while working on this project. I have seen the memorial in question, and while it is beautiful, the adults around this scout continue to fail him; rather than learning and helping him to learn about others (as is directed in the BSA publication “Religious Emblems Program,” which states: 

“He is faithful in his religious duties and respects the convictions of others in matters of custom and religion.”

 

the adults around him continue the charage of pretending that we are attacking the child, which couldn’t be further from the truth. 

Rather than adhere to this BSA message, the adults around this scout are specifically excluding military and veteran diversity and utterly failing to acknowledge what an awful mistake was made. Rather than using this as a learning opportunity for themselves and the scout, they pretend that they are the victims. Rather than having integrity, admitting their mistake and working to fix it, they prefer to feign personal attack, and continue the exclusion of  an entire demographic of service members and veterans who are not Christian (FYI: I’m a veteran and a Humanist of Jewish ancestry).  This behavior continues the “us versus them” mentality, causing harm to individuals and will, mark my words, impede military readiness due to dissension within already struggling ranks.

Renee Reif
Veteran and Long time MRFF Supporter
Fountain, CO

Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere
(name withheld),
Your sanctimonious shaming is morally misdirected. It should be redirected at those adults who failed to advise the young Eagle Scout that his project as presented could not be placed on government property & government endorsed because that is illegal & would violate the United States Constitution, American law & Department of Defense regulatory directives.
 
No one has berated the innocent Eagle Scout. The real shameful conduct is the use of this minor  as a pawn by adults, intentionally or ignorantly, in an attempt to circumvent our laws & unlawfully proselytize a version of religion as government supported. Shame on them.
 
Most Sincerely,
 
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)

Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (composed of over 80% Christians)


Andy,

Thank you for your instant feedback. In today’s instant world, it is very hard knowing the facts. Your feedback has given me a more complete perspective on this issue. It seems now it has become a accusing game. I personally believe the PR surrounding this incident has ben handled poorly. Anytime you respond to press……good luck. Although feelings don’t count in law, only facts, feelings do matter.

(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Supporter Andy Meyer
FYI
Andy
 
“But seek ye first the kingdom of God,and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.” Matt 6:33

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
Hi Mr. (name withheld),
 
As I’m sure you know by now, we did not berate the Eagle Scout in question. We think he did a nice job on the monument. Our concern was something about which he may have been unaware, which is that an overtly religious artifact cannot be placed in a government-owned facility because it violates the separation of church and state, implying, as it does, a religious preference on the part of the government.
 
The young man’s work should be removed from the cemetery and should also be shorn of the official military insignia with which he chose to adorn it (for the same reason). That way his tribute can be appreciated by those who choose to take it in, and at the same time it will not be violating any laws.
 
Best,
 
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)

 

 

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