It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible. -George Washington.

Published On: April 19, 2022|Categories: MRFF's Inbox|3 Comments|

It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible. -George Washington.
Rev. 3:15,16I know they works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot, So then because th out art lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 
By removing Gods Word, you supply neither healing for the spiritually sick nor refreshment for the spiritually weary. 
Mark 8:38Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed when He cometh in the glory of His Father with the Holy angels. 
Romans 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth, to the New first and also to the Greek. 
2 Timothy 2:15Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of TRUTH. 
2 Timothy 3:5Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. ( You are ignorantly siding with the godless organizations that started a war on Bible believing, God fearing people. Starting with the war on Merry Christmas.)
2 Timothy 3:16All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instructions in righteousness. 
This nation started a downward spiral when they let one woman take prayer out of our schools. This last generation is ripe for the Antichrist plucking. The Beast System is in and things are going to get much worse. I suggest picking up your cross and following Him not our wicked, evil government. America was

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

On Apr 18, 2022, at 7:42 PM, Mike wrote:


My my, (name withheld),
I agree that America has done many things wrong and will probably do ;more things wrong in the future. But it has the potential to be the great nation that our ideals suggest. It’s really a matter of the citizens dedicating themselves to making it work as well as it can for everyone. And by everyone, I mean people of all faiths and belief systems, people of all colors and sizes and shapes and sexes and ages.
Your belief system is yours and you’re welcome to it, as should be the case for everyone else.
Public schools, like any part of our society that is run by or connected to the government, should not and cannot impose prayer or insist a belief system on children. That’s up to their parents.
The point of the separation of church and state is to allow everyone to have and develop whatever belief system he or she chooses and to know they are free to embrace it and practice it. It is not up to you to insist your belief system on others, no matter how strongly you may feel it is the only right and true one.

Best,
Mike Farrell (MRFF Board of Advisors)


I made a typo. ENDTIMES HEADLINES

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

On Apr 20, 2022, at 12:29 AM, Mike wrote:


Oh, you’ve made many typos.
It’s astonishing to me that you and so many of your like-minded friends succeed in convincing yourselves that the hatred you spew is somehow Christ-like behavior. You and your ilk have bastardized Christianity into a form Jesus wouldn’t recognize. You’ve aligned yourselves with this twisted, perversion you call Christianity and left behind the true Christianity of Jesus.
How very sad.
Mike Farrell (MRFF Board of Advisors


Hatred? How is hatred to desire Gods Word be readily available for any passer by to pick up? How is it hatred to speak the very words of God? I only stated biblical references. You have never been born again or you wouldn’t be so blinded by the worldly version of Christianity. Of course they want us to be sugar coated and watered down conformists. I will not compromise with the world. Or its paperwork. What good is a Constitution when everyone’s bringing Gods judgement on a land? 2 Timothy 4:3,4 describes these…..For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned into fables.

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Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

Open your eyes and your mind, and think about what you’ve said about Mikey Weinstein, Muslims, Jews and others who have a view of life and its possibilities that differs from yours and tell me again about  your relationship with hatred.
You are welcome to your view, but it is only that – your view, your vision, your belief system, However, you choose to believe that since you have “found” it and absorbed it, others who believe differently are not only wrong, but are your enemies.
That is not Christianity; that is mental constipation,
Mike Farrell (MRFF Board of Advisors)


There’s no point to keep trying to make you understand that if you are not born again, you will not enter Gods Kingdom. Religion of any sort leads you to HELL. Many Muslims have had visions and came to Christ. Any person who believeth not on the Son has not life. The Bible is the ONLY book of TRUTH. You can ignore that all you want but one day soon you will bow and confess that Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. All others are false and lead to mans destruction. Prophecies are fulfilling all around us every single day and the rapture will soon take place. Be left behind if you want to. You will face a most difficult time. Now….away with you. 

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell


You’re right: there’s no point in trying to convince me that unless I’m “born again” I’ll go to hell. I think that’s nonsense. That’s why I’m glad I live in America and not a country that is a religious state like Iran or Israel. Or like the America you and your ilk would like to impose here.
You might profit from what Jennifer Rubin wrote in the Washington Post a couple of days ago.
Enjoy.
Mike Farrell (MRFF Board of Advisors)

The Supreme Court would risk more than legitimacy by imposing Christian nationalism Jennifer Rubin Wash Post, April 20, ‘22The Supreme Court would risk more than legitimacy by imposing Christian nationalism.

It is right up front in the First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

There is a reason both the establishment and free-exercise clauses start the Bill of Rights. If there was a single driving force behind the founding of the American colonies, it was religious liberty — the right of non-Anglican “dissenters” to worship as they saw fit. Numerous colonies were founded on that basis. Pennsylvania expressly forbade establishment of a church.

Now along come right-wing, overwhelmingly White evangelical Christians, a large portion of whom have decided they are victims of persecution. They believe this even though the United States remains by far the most religiously observant country among affluent countries. And they ignore the fact that the government has long incorporated religious exemptions (e.g., for military service) and that religious hate crimes are overwhelmingly directed at Jews and Muslims.

As Amanda Tyler of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty recently explained in an interview with the Center for American Progress:

    I believe that the single biggest threat to religious freedom in the United States today is Christian nationalism. Christian nationalism is antithetical to the constitutional ideal that belonging in American society is not predicated on what faith one practices or whether someone is religious at all. The political ideology that seeks to merge American and Christian identities is deeply embedded in American society and manifests itself in a number of different ways, some more obviously harmful than others.

Republican right-wingers, long dependent on the votes of White evangelicals, have taken a multi-pronged approach to impose their vision of Christian America. Whether it is demanding corporations get an exemption to the Affordable Care Act’s requirement that employer-sponsored health plans cover contraception, or exhibiting emblems of Christian nationalism during violent demonstrations in Charlottesville, Va., they have shown that they have a very different idea of what defines America from what the Constitution intends.

And the Supreme Court might seem sympathetic to the cause. Tyler warns: “I’m concerned that the current Supreme Court seems overly deferential to free exercise claims of some, while not giving enough weight to Establishment Clause principles and how those principles protect religious freedom for all.” She adds, “Instead, the court has couched a number of its recent decisions in terms of trying to prevent discrimination against religion, interpreting Establishment Clause principles that gird against government-sponsored religion as ‘discrimination’ in certain contexts.”

The current 6-to-3 right-wing majority seems poised to wreak havoc on the Constitution as it has been understood for decades. One can practically hear the justices champing at the bit as they review cases this term. This includes one involving a football coach leading players in prayer; another is about whether the state of Maine must supply public funds to children attending religious schools. And, of course, there are cases attempting to shift abortion policies based on the religious belief that life begins at conception.

If it seems like back to the future, you’re right. School prayer was struck down by the court in 1962. Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. Decades of precedent supporting the proposition that the state cannot compel religious practice or legislate according to one faith could be gone by this summer.

The arrogance of justices who imagine there is such a thing as plain vanilla prayer — as though certain religions don’t have specific, distinct practices for prayer — is quite striking. “A football coach leading prayer? As American as apple pie!” those defending school prayer might say. “Besides, kids don’t have to follow along!” Unless, of course, they are afraid of being ostracized, insulted or possibly losing playing time.

Similarly, those pushing to outlaw abortion under the assumption that life begins at conception refuse to acknowledge the view reflects a particularly Christian belief. Assuming it as the basis for constitutional interpretation could not be further from the ideals of limited government and religious freedom.

It is no coincidence that the notion of the United States being a Christian nation has become particularly popular just as White evangelicals are becoming a minority of the population. That seems to have set off the desperate crusade to use the government to install one faith in a position of prominence and tell the rest of Americans (including the growing segment who identify with no religion) to either go along or remove themselves from official proceedings.

This attitude betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of the First Amendment. Indeed, it is a direct threat to the experiment in pluralistic democracy. As democracy expert Yascha Mounk recently explained in an interview with Democracy Paradox, diverse democracies require that no one sect can force others to conform to their dictates to enjoy benefits of citizenship:

    A healthy democratic society that is able to sustain this diversity is one that recognizes discrimination and injustice, but gives people liberty to have freedom of worship, to spend their lives among members of an ethnic or religious in-group, if that’s what they choose to do, but which encourages as much togetherness and as much recognition of shared interests, of shared identity as possible.

    And one of the things I worry about at the moment is that sometimes our institutions don’t try to counteract the natural tendency people have to be group-ish. They actually double down on them. They encourage people to identify themselves as much as possible in those terms. And because of just the basic human mechanism of favoring what you see as the in-group over the out-group, I worry that that can lead to real fragmentation of our society.

If the Supreme Court contributes to the plague of Christian nationalism, it would reveal itself to be both a partisan and sectarian combatant. Moreover, it would risk injecting even more religious antagonism into our society and replacing the American creed with the sort of theocratic authoritarianism seen in some illiberal societies. The end of the current term could well be an inflection point for the court and for pluralistic democracy.


Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. John 3:5
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not PERISH, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Jesus spoke of HELL more than heaven. Now my words sir…GODS WORD. 

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

On Apr 25, 2022, at 1:06 AM, Mike wrote:
As said, (name withheld), this is your belief and you are welcome to it. We have no problem with what you believe. We do have a problem, though, when you and others who are apparently convinced that yours is the ONE AND ONLY TRUE BELIEF SYSTEM and seem to think everyone else must accept it. That is contrary to the American way.

America is a country that welcomes people of all beliefs or no particular belief, honors all of them and protects their right to believe as they choose. You and others who insist on pushing your belief system onto others are simply out of step with the understanding of the freedom of religion or non-religion.
That is a shame. And it is that arrogant insistence that everyone must believe as you dictate, that anyone who believes in a manner different from yours is wrong and anti-Christian, is not only wrong, it is dangerous to the fundamental premise of the United States of America. And we will oppose it.
Mike Farrell (MRFF Board of Advisors)


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  1. Grey One Talks Sass April 19, 2022 at 7:04 am

    Letter writer leads with a spurious quote attributed to our first President. According to the estate of Washington at Mount Vernon there is no evidence he said this.

    Prove me wrong letter writer. Oh wait, you can’t because you most likely heard this lie from faux historian David Barton. Or you heard it from your Voice of Authority who in turn heard it from David. The man lies and doesn’t deserve the title of historian IMO.

  2. A.L. Hern April 25, 2022 at 4:59 pm

    “It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without
    God and the Bible. -George Washington.”

    Washington never said or wrote any such thing. As with any “quote” or assertion, before believing or citing it you must consider its source, try to corroborate it from multiple sources, and ask yourself two pertinent questions:

    Was the source from which I got it merely using it to advance a narrative whose conclusion said source had already reached?

    and

    Am I merely using it to advance a narrative whose conclusion I have already reached?

    If the answer — the honest answer — to either of these questions is “yes,” then the validity of the citation is deeply in question and must not be disseminated UNTIL you have obtained ironclad confirmation that a statement like “It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible — George Washington” is true. And because Washington’s utterances and writings are extremely well documented, trying to pass off bogus assertions like the above can only make those attempting it look like fools, and desperate fools, at that.

    Boiling this down further, to its simplest essence, there is one more question that needs to be asked:

    Would Jesus countenance the telling of lies for ANY purpose? If he is what you like to think he is, then you already KNOW the answer.

  3. Paula May 12, 2022 at 11:27 am

    It appears that you haven’t many original thoughts, preferring to quote others that you believe “support” your opinions. Well, here’s one for you from C.S.Lewis, a very well-known christian author:

    “A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic—on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg—or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice.”

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