MRFF Demanded That Great Big Christian Cross Be Removed From Austin VA Clinic Lobby — In Under 90 Minutes It Was Gone!!!
19 veterans who receive medical care at the Austin VA Clinic in Texas asked MRFF to help them get a large, prominently displayed cross removed from the facility. This very large cross, made up of copies of the military branch emblems arranged into the shape of a Christian cross, dominated a seating area in the first floor lobby of the building, sending the message that our military is a Christian military and only Christian veterans matter.
This morning, MRFF founder and president Mikey Weinstein emailed a letter to the Director for the Central Texas Veterans Health Care System, demanding that this great big Christian cross in the lobby of the Austin VA Clinic be expeditiously removed …
… AND IN LESS THAN 90 MINUTES IT WAS REMOVED!!!
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It would have been interesting to know what that little sign under the left arm of the cross said, and perhaps how it related to how the cross appeared.
a/k/a the trappings of responsible journalism.
I don’t see how a cross means that our military is Christian only. And the idea that only Christian vets matter is ludicrous at best. If you changers really believe that then I suggest you tour a military graveyard. Lots of crosses, stars of David and other religious symbols you can be offended by.
Ralph, a cross on a prominent space alone doesn’t signal only Christianity to you?
Where are the rest of the icons? Why no equal representation?
The VA treats the living. The graveyard is for the dead. Are you implying veterans of faiths other than Christianity only deserve representation in death?
Way to signal your bias.
Bill, considering a patient at the clinic took the picture I’m not too fussy about the lack of an up close and focused view of the cross and it’s tag. They have to go back, best to be cautious although I’d love to know what the tag says too. I’m curious that way.
RIDICULOUS. Why are you claiming with that cross the VA is only honoring the Christian soldiers. There is a lot of blanks walls to honor ALL the atheist soldiers. The MRFF is a POS organization helping destroy America by getting rid of GOD. Remember the MRFF after the next mass shooting in schools and other places for helping to remove GOD & PRAYING from all these institutions which contributes to the hateful attitudes of our young
Jim F seems angry based on their logic free rant. They even try to equate civilian mass shootings with the military. Silliness!
Jim, the cross is the religious symbol of Christianity (even though the Christian Holy Book is pretty specific about not worshipping graven images). There are more religious choices besides Christian or Atheist, none of which were represented on the wall (and a blank wall isn’t the symbol for Atheism you disrespectful sot).
Learn to share Jim F. I do believe it’s what JWD.
You intellectually deprived piece of shit!
Think about those words.
How did you feel being called a piece of shit?
Are you a piece of shit?
Would you sit across a table from someone you don’t know, have never met, while looking them in the eye, and call them a piece of shit? Would your family members do that? Your wife? Your daughter? Your fellow church members? Do the people you keep around you spew that kind of vitriol?
Where did you get that hatred? We’re you neglected as a child? Abused? Traumatized? Do you have health problems carrying that hatred?
Did you pass that hatred on to your children? Is that your contribution to society before you check out?
Is your legacy to be remembered as a hate-filled, bitter old bastard?
Get hold of yourself! You need to apologize!
Would it bother you to walk into a VA and be confronted with a very large Star of David? With no sign of a cross anywhere?
Of course it would! You’d go into an apoplectic seizure!
I’d rather the VA have no religious symbology on display. I would go there for health care, not a fucking sermon! If you want a reminder that you’re Christian, wear a cross! Get a tattoo so you don’t forget.
You can take your faith with you when you walk in the door. No one is telling you you can’t have religious faith. But you don’t get to force it on others! If your hate-filled faith is representative of what you get with Christianity, no wonder so many are leaving the faith!
How can the MRFF “get rid of God,” the creator of the Universe? The supernaturally all knowing, all powerful creator? Are you really that shallow? Don’t be so silly!
I would ask you to remember your God when He watches the next mass murder of innocent children and does nothing about it! He must like white people right?
I’ll think of Christianity after the next mass shooting as well as white guys like yourself! “Thoughts and prayers!” Yeah, that’ll do it! More prayers! Your God will watch it happen and do nothing, just like he does with children raped by the clergy!
And you want this Christian God to be revered in the public square as a preventive measure?
We have become a nation full of hatred and disrespect. Everyone is only concerned about themselves. If you do not like something , it is your right but it is not your right to control other people. The hate is destroying our country and our lives. Respect others please
Have you ever called for customer service and gotten someone incredibly rude on the other end of the phone? Everyone’s had that experience.
Very seldom is it the one bad employee that you just happen to reach. It’s the leaders of the organization you’re calling that model that behavior in the work setting that causes it. Employees model the behavior of their leadership.
Similarly, the hate you’re referring to is coming from the leaders of the republican party, the MAGA crowd, the Trump crowd, the religious right, the fundamentalists, the evangelicals, fomented by Trump himself for the past six years and getting worse daily. Why? For the religious crowd, their source of income is waning – people are leaving the church. Young people have pulled back the curtain and it can’t be unseen! The “thoughts and prayers” platitude after every mass shooting simply doesn’t work anymore to comfort the impact of these tragedies.
Church is NOT the solution and the young folks see it! And the old white guy power brokers in the church feel it! They’re afraid of the “browning of America,” of “Christian values being trampled in because their old book tells them they can’t be queer (they can own slaves but don’t be queer!), and a myriad of perceived threats to their fundamentalist ideology and “whiteness” of this country! It was the upper class of this whiteness that took their jobs overseas – the people they believe are “on their side!” and play to their insecurities about who they are and what value systems they hold. But they feel the despair and loss of control and are thrashing to maintain control of their own lives. They’re drowning and reaching for anything and everyone they can to pull down with them! Despair, loss of jobs, loss of patriarchal status, waning religions, and an unresponsive government is what caused the opioid crises, not Mexicans pouring in across an “open border!” Most fentanyl is brought across the border by US citizens.
One example and I’ll get off my soapbox. Trump added $8 Trillion to the national debt during his 4 years in office but now, for republicans, the national debt is suddenly a problem! Only two of the 35 countries in the OECD even have a national debt limit – the US and Denmark! The debt limit is meaningless, pure theatrical performance art! Ever notice how, in American advertising, they first present a problem to be solved (the one you’re told you have), and then present the resolution – “ask your doctor about the purple pill,” if you buy a Ford pickup, you too will be Ford tough…..! Remember Virginia Slims cigarettes? “You’ve got your own cigarette now baby, you’ve come a long long way!” The Torches of Freedom propaganda campaign put together by Freud’s nephew, Edward Bernays that placed women smoking in the Easter parade in New York.
What’s the problem with the debt according to republicans? “Spending is out of control, entitlements are killing us, social security is bankrupt, medicaid is unsustainable, and there are mass hoards of illegal rapists and murderers pouring across our borders and they’re coming for you!” They present the “problem,” rile up the base, and then present solutions! Raise the retirement age, sunset it every five years, charge younger people more, privatize it ( I have a simple solution but different conversation). It’s so ironic to watch republican representatives say, “we’ve got to reduce the size of government and get Govt out of the lives of the American people!” This is a Government representative telling you this, as they tell you about Jewish space lasers causing California wildfires in the next breath! When have Republicans EVER reduced the size of the federal Government?
Long winded – off my soapbox. Noam Chomsky, if you believe Chomsky, calls the Republican party the “biggest existential threat to all of humanity” that exists today!
The hate you refer to is coming from the right, full stop. You don’t think the religious nut jobs posting hate mail here are democrats do you?
We’re 90 seconds away from midnight on the doomsday clock. These are very serious times!
My two cents worth.
“People don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care,” – Theodore Roosevelt
ironmoped you’re seriously sounding like a piece of shit for your name calling. so stop acting like a piece of shit. because what you’re saying makes you a piece shit. plus long winded. plus the hate and bile towards this nation is coming directly from the left. so pull your head out of your 4th point of contact.
you are a petty hate filled piece of shit.
Human garbage with zero goals but to be a trouble maker. You embarrass yourself and present yourself as an uneducated ass. Congratulations.
To whom is your comment directed?
I ask because you sound like an old yelling at clouds from your porch.
Civil War Reenactor, if you call Ironmoped a POS for pointing out another commenter who calls the MRFF and by extension their supporters a POS doesn’t that make you a (self admitted) POS?
PS – good to know you enjoy LARPing with your friends. Everyone should have a hobby: keeps a soul young.
Civil War Reenactor,
Your handle says it all!