MRFF VICTORY! Weeks-Long Blitz of Religious Greetings from Air Force Base Gate Guards Stopped in Just Over Two Hours
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From MRFF USAF client yesterday morning:
“I’m writing because something is happening at the front gate of my base that is absolutely unacceptable, and frankly I’m stunned it’s been allowed to continue. For multiple days over the last couple of weeks, the guards have been greeting me with ‘God bless you’ every single morning as I come through. Not once, not twice… repeatedly, consistently, as if it’s an officially sanctioned script.”
“It is exhausting, infuriating, and frankly alienating to be reminded every morning that some people on this base feel entitled to inject their religion into official interactions. I shouldn’t have to brace myself at the gate wondering what religious phrase I’m going to be hit with today.”
From MRFF USAF client yesterday afternoon:
“I just wanted to follow up and thank you for everything you and MRFF did today. From the moment I called you at 1000, you were on it (even though you were at a doctor’s appt). …”
“And the impact was immediate. It’s now 1400, and I have gone through the same gate a couple times without hearing the religious greeting. After dealing with it repeatedly for weeks, seeing that change happen within hours is honestly incredible.”
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I’m surprised that Old Soldier hasn’t already whined again about another allegedly “blasphemous” image of Jesus.
Gee Tom I would hate to disappoint you but yes I am steamed about this blasphemous image of Jesus. The pathetic cretins of the MRFF consider it a victory to stop people saying God bless you. They need to get a life. God bless our military God bless our veterans and God bless America.
No, Mikey. This heroic little screenplay is getting tired. Every story somehow ends with you as the fearless savior and everyone else as helpless victims. At some point, credibility requires more than dramatic narration and a starring role you wrote for yourself.
Apparently Old Liar missed that his Jesus is blasphemous to begin with.
Jews for Judaism has a free download all about that.
And while this seems small, the greeting of the day IS a set script. It is drilled in basic training. Unit mottoes can be used but not this.
You need to be some kind of special to be personally offended by someone offering a blessing. This is the equivalent of being mad that someone told you to “have a good day”.
They’re not asking you to pray with them or handing out pamphlets.
The phrase is “God bless you.” Said by a guard. At a gate. In America.
Note what the complaint doesn’t contain: no order, no policy, no directive. The strongest version offered is “as if it’s an officially sanctioned script” — the writer noticing a common pleasantry is common, and inferring coordination from the frequency.
Then the illustration. “God bless you” is generic — Christians, Jews, Muslims and plenty of nonbelievers all say it. Jesus appears nowhere in either email. MRFF illustrated it with Jesus. At the gate. Greeting people. So across three steps, a guard’s pleasantry became an inferred script became an AI-generated Christ running access control at a U.S. Air Force installation — each stage adding what the one before it lacked. An organization that exists to stop Christianity being inserted into official military settings couldn’t find an instance good enough, so it generated one. If the event were as bad as the adjectives, you’d illustrate the event. You’d show a gate. There’s an AI Jesus in that picture because a gate wouldn’t have moved anybody.
Call at 1000, fixed by 1400. Four hours to retrain armed federal personnel on how to say good morning.
“God Bless You” is not just an innocuous pleasantry when said by a gate guard at an official USA property, as everyone knows – it is an official sanction of religious belief at best. At worst it is proselytizing by someone officially representing the government. Either way it is a violation of the military code of conduct and the first amendment, and it is very disrespectful of visitors and base personnel who don’t believe in a god or gods.
Our military base personnel should be honoring our laws and our nation and its people by being respectful of those laws and its people. Disrespectful behavior based on religious prejudices is popular now in a large segment of our country, unfortunately, but that doesn’t make it legal or morally consistent with the Golden Rule that most people profess to try to follow.
How dare someone suggest that I have a Blessed Day!
What a whiney little b….!
Again, the theocrats play their old game of claiming that “opposition to government promotion of religion=opposition to religion.” This is NOT about being “personally offended by someone offering a blessing.” It’s about government employees, while on the job, promoting religion.
Bless your heart, Greg! It’s too bad you can’t seem to grasp how exhausting it can be to hear “God bless you” every time you go through a gate. But if you’re like me — a Unitarian Universalist neo-pagan atheist — it does drag on you after a while.
Maybe think about how it would feel to have the shoe on the other hand. What if you were the Sikh gate guard checking IDs for a constant stream of people coming through your gate and having to say, “God bless you” to everyone going through the gate.
Everybody saying that it’s just a blessing would shit their pants if the guards were saying Asalam Alaykum. That’s also a blessing. The point is that our military has no business with promoting religion.
Is this satire? 🤡Are you guys the Babylon Bee?🤣🙏🙏🙏
MooLeeYom, No, not satire. Just a group of people dedicated to the Constitution and Bill of Rights calling out a group of humans (Nationalist Christians) who will take whatever inch is provided and leapfrog it into trying to take over the world.
I was going to say maybe not the world but then remembered how Nationalist Christians have influenced policy in other nations so… yeah, not satire.
Life would be better if this situation was satire but these folks (Nationalist Christians) are serious. They even wrote a manual for their taking over for this country. You should read it (Project 2025). Not satire, just page after page of how they intend to transform the Democracy of the USA into a theocracy. As someone this regime would like locked up in a labor camp or dead I take their words seriously. So should anyone who isn’t the palest of pales in the skin tone shades. In their eyes White makes Right.
Humanity has seen this before and collectively said never again. Guess never really meant never until it happens again.
We are a Christian nation. In God We Trust is on our money Why are we even having this conversation? If you don’t like it….go somewhere else.
WTG Mikey. These guys know they are wrong, and they know that they can only keep pushing their fundamentalist policies if no one calls them on it.
The more success you have, the more people want to take action against it, just like you have.
The Founding Fathers demanded separation of Church and State.
If you disagree with that principle: YOU ARE UN-AMERICAN.
“While there is plenty of evidence that a number of the founding fathers harbored significant religious skepticism, and one might reasonably argue that some, like Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, may have been partially motivated by enlightenment era rationalist skepticism and a desire to stifle religious dogma, but that wasn’t the true explicit purpose of the Establishment Clause. Its primary purpose was to prevent the federal union from being jeopardized by religious disagreements.
While the colonies were dominated by protestants, the protestants were not monolithic. Anglicans, Calvinists, Methodists, Baptists, Congregationalists, Presbyterians, Unitarians, Quakers, etc. are all different from each other in theological beliefs and practices, and while many of the differences may seem trivial to an outsider or non-believer, they were not trivial to the true believers in the colonies.
The only way for the congregationalists in Massachusetts to feel safe from the influence of Anglicanism out of the Southern states under a federal government, is to make sure that the Federal Government has no power to establish or favor any one version of Christianity or to suppress another. The establishment clause allowed for the states to form a union without needing to resolve religious differences that would have been impossible to overcome.
As noted by u/otolenghi, the establisment clause only restrained the Federal Government at the time. Until the 14th Amendment, and subsequent court cases, there was no general individual “freedom of religion”, just a restraint on the federal government from weighing in. The 1st Amendment provided no protection against or freedom from the religion of your community, city, or state.”
I wasn’t aware that the ‘separation of church and state’ had anything to do with ‘the founding fathers’.
It seemed like a product of Madilyn Murry O’Hair who demanded public schools remove prayer and all things Christian…who later was murdered and buried in the desert for her valuable coins.