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Dear MRFF,

I just wanted to express my pleasure that you misguided scumbags lost this attempt implementing your demented goal and mission. It’s but one battle in a major war, euphemistically speaking. This letter is not intended to be threatening or intimidating in any fashion. Mikey Weinstein is a dirt bag, damaged scumbag and you folks that aid this are just as bad…again, no threats…peace to all but you all really suck…:)….It’s easy enough to trace an email so by all means waste your time on me….I’m done wasting it on you turds…free speech is great huh?…lol…

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/04/24/military-religious-freedom-foundation-calls-pentagon-bar-servicemembers-prayer-event

p.s…..”I don’t attend church, synagogue or mosque”….:)…

(name withheld)

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Dear (name withheld),

In all the emails I’ve read and responded to on behalf of MRFF, yours is the most ignorantly conflicted piece of ‘verbal diarrhea’ I have seen.

I am a Christian (Episcopalian in fact) who fully supports Mikey’s and MRFF’s attempt to protect members of the U.S. Military from unconstitutional religious influence in relation to their training, assignment, advancement, retention and benefits. 96% of MRFF’s clients are also Christians who, like me, have chosen to fight back against (rather than passively accept) the Dominionist tendencies of those Christians who proselytize or attempt to impose their version of the Christian faith via government sanction.

The headline in your source says so very much about their dishonesty and your willful ignorance:
Military Religious Freedom Foundation Calls for Pentagon to Bar Servicemembers from Prayer Event
…a journalistic turd sandwich if there ever was one. MRFF objects to official sanctioning of the event which is clearly not allowed under numerous long standing U.S. Military regulations as clearly detailed in writing by MRFF and ignored by your “journalistic” source. MRFF encourages any military member to attend whatever prayer event they wish on their own, without sanction or support by the government. Not that it would make a difference in your fetid mind, but you should also be aware that MRFF fully supports the military chaplaincy role in its passive (i.e. without proselytization) ministrations to the religious needs of all U.S. Service Members of any faith.

By the way, I personally don’t give a rat’s behind if you attend religious services or not…I am however worried if you attended school at some point.

Sincerely,
Andy Kasehagen

p.s. Here’s my personal take on the National Prayer Event as a Christian:

King James Version:
Gospel of Matthew Chapter 6
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

….yep…Hypocrites sums it up quite nicely.

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Dear (name withheld),

You are correct that Free Speech is great but is it possible to disagree with someone without calling them “misguided scumbags,” “dirt bags or turds?”

You seem to have entirely missed the point of MRFF’s actions relative to NDP and the Pentagon.

MRFF’s main goal is to ensure religious freedom or freedom from unwelcome religion for each and every member of the armed forces irrespective of what faith or lack thereof they possess.

First, it is unlawful and unconstitutional for any member of government, including public Education and Armed Forces, to advocate, recommend, promote or proselytize one religion over another or religion over non-religion.

Therefore, members of the military sponsoring or participating in an exclusively Christian event is unlawful.

Secondly, no government properties and venues may be used to promote exclusive religious events, services or ceremonies with the exception of those venues reserved for chapels, Chaplain offices, or other designated areas in which religious services may be held.

Third, it is unconstitutional and illegal for military members in supervisory positions to attempt to proselytize Christianity or any other religion to subordinates.

So you see, MRFF is not preventing the free exercise of religion in the Armed Forces but rather the unwelcome command centered and coercive proselytizing we find in military venues today.

Rick Baker
Capt. USAF (Ret)
MRFF Volunteer

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Members of the military have a choice NOT to attend such services….Your organization is hateful, illogical and uses the constitution in a fashion not intended by the forefathers at all….save the drivel for the ill informed..yours and other organizations like yours serve no useful purpose whatsoever……as far as the name calling…after watching the last five years and what’s transpired….it was a brief moment of venting and nothing more. I’m a veteran and was NEVER forced to participate in a religious function…Now those that want to can’t because of you fascists….

(name withheld)

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Dear (name withheld),

I’m sorry that you have so egregiously misjudged MRFF. We have assisted many thousands of military personnel to escape the forces of religion gone bad.

Although military personnel have the right to refuse participation in religious events, many do know know that or are afraid to disobey.

You may not have been forced to participate in religious activities while on duty but many others have.

You may be interested in following up on what I have told you. You will find our web site informative and interesting.

GO HERE: militaryreligiousfreedomfoundation.org

Rick

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Nonsense!!…I am a very non religious individual but the more I see atheists raising their voices and stripping people of their right to express their faith, the worse I see the entire nations condition has become as a result. There is a direct cause & effect. I find it incredible that you can even attempt to pass off the idea that allowing Christians to gather and pray in uniform is against the law. It’s as specious an argument as one could make……I completely agree with ‘Separation of Church & State’….and I also KNOW that it was never meant to be carried to the absurd levels that organizations such as MRFF try to take it…..All I can hope for is that those that wish to exercise their faith…. do so peacefully and without intimidating anyone….but in a fashion that causes your organization to cease to exist, this recent victory could be a start……a militant minority pretending to do something for the larger good?!…How pathetic….I always wish good karma….so, good karma…may you see the light one day and that’s conveyed secularly…

(name withheld)

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Dear (name withheld),

I’m afraid you have missed the boat on this one. Your intransigent attitude on this matter demonstrates to me that it is not the actual answer that you seek but rather to be correct at any cost.

The Supreme Court has ruled in Lemon Vs. Kurzman, 1971, that government including Public Education and the Armed Forces, may not promote, advocate or recommend one religion over another or religion over non-religion. Superiors many not proselytize to subordinates and groups may not proselytize to other personnel.

This is regulation.

Rick

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They’re not doing that and never have…..What you label intransigence is ‘common sense’…you’re an atheist organization that is committing the very transgression (s) your feigning to prevent……end of story…as always…good karma to you and yours…As a non religious individual I look very forward to watching those who choose to worship in uniform, do so, on “National Prayer day”….

p.s….Listen to the voice inside you that tells you everyday how wrong you know this is….regardless of misinterpreted legal precedents…

(name withheld)

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This caused me to reflect on our recent conversation……While not specifically applied to the military I have to assume all you folks at the office doing that great work are happy about this….keep us safe from all those prayers……..:)…as always, peace & good karma…

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/divided-court-oks-prayer-public-meetings/

(name withheld)

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Dear (name withheld),

You may be mistaking our position on this.

MRFF has no quarrel with a religious opening prayer for civic and government organizations. Much like the Pledge of Allegiance if opening prayers are generic in nature we have no problem with them.

It is sectarian prayer mentioning religious figures such as Jesus or Allah or Jehovah which violate the constitution.

Remember, government, including Public Education and the Armed Forces, may not favor, promote, advocate, recommend or proselytize one religion over another or religion over non-religion.

That is why generic prayer is perfectly acceptable.

MRFF has been called an “Atheist” Organization. Although we have Atheists in membership and on staff, nothing could be further from the truth. Between staff and supporters, MRFF has a broad spectrum of religious adherents of all faiths, Christianity being a main one.

Best

Rick

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The following was Justice Kennedy’s opinion…It a shame that it was a bitterly divided vote…that same opinion that Kennedy wrote, should apply to the military as well…there has never been ( and I served in two branches) non-adherents coerced to participate in prayer…Where we will ALWAYS disagree is the modern day interpretation of separation of church & state…It was only “rightly” intended to prohibit a theocracy…..

“Opening government meetings in the town of Greece, N.Y. with prayer “does not violate the First Amendment … and does not coerce participation by non-adherents,” Justice Kennedy wrote for the majority”.

(name withheld)

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I am only sending these so you get a clearer picture. The SCOTUS opinion ok’d the prayers even if they were Christian due to the towns make-up…..Respectfully, there is zero good purpose in the function your organization plays. It takes choice from people. This should suffice now in that we both have out stance out there. Your organization will lose n the end and. As I recommended before. Even if it’s just you. Take a step back, breath and find another job…Good fortune to you always…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27284941

(name withheld)

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It is not over. People of good will and real patriotism will continue the fight for true religious freedom which must also guarantee freedom FROM religion.

Christianity has a major flaw, as do most religions. The “Great Commission” as outlined in Matthew 28:16-20-, which instructs Christians to go forth and “make” disciples, is yet one more aggressive religious tenet which brands Christianity as just one more gang of religious extremists.

MRFF’s good purpose is still to protect those who do not wish to participate in religious activity from those who would force it on them.

Sadly we see Christianity slipping into the same extreme modus operandi as Islam and other aggressive beliefs.

We will always be there at the site of religious hegemony to deflect the ageless attack on mankind by people of low intellect who have succumbed to religious autonomy.

Rick

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The reason I knew the discussion had reached it’s Zenith….was I knew you would come back with the completely absurd assertion that Christianity is equally extremist and subjugating as other faiths such as Islam….and that’s sheer blind ignorance…one advanced and the other did not…one allows for free thinking and the other does not….where do you people acquire you’re thought processes from?….and of course the battle is not over…It’s humanity….all we can do is hope for peace and good will towards one another….your organization had better not be tax payer funded….

(name withheld)

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Dear (name withheld),

I see you have been angered.

Perhaps I should have positioned Islam as an outright militant belief system and Christianity as achieving the same ends through a more circuitous agenda with less violence and more planning.

I do believe, however, that dominion oriented Christians may be less visible in their pursuit of proselytizing but can be pretty tough.

Also never forget Christianity’s rather checkered career through history with some rather awful times, Inquisitions, Witch Trials and Genocide being among the worst.

In any case I wish you well and hope all your dealings with the religious are in a positive mode.

Rick