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This post was created on the previous version of the MRFF website, and may not be fully accessible to users of assistive technology. If you need help accessing this content, please reach out via email.Dear Military Religious Freedom Foundation,
Just thought I’d let you know, I’m sick and tired of you and the rest of the jews shoving your “we the poor mistreated people of the holocaust” down the throats of the people of the world….It was over 65 years ago, GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!
As for your organizations demand for an investigation of the circumstances of the picture of the Marines with the alleged “SS” flag, give me a break. Get over yourselves….I fed up with you peoples (and fortunately it’s really a very small minority of jews) constantly crying about ancient history.
Hello, this is the 21st century, GET OVER IT and do something constructive with your lives.
BTW, As a point of how tired I am of hearing about the “holocaust”, I have begun teaching my children that it ever happened, and that it was drempt up by a group of people so that they could steal land from the Palestinians.
(name withheld)
Sir,
Thanks for your letter to the MRFF.
First, please let me disabuse you of the notion that the MRFF is in any sense a “Jewish” organization. While our founder and director, Mr. Weinstein, is an observant Jew, his blended faith family includes Christians, and most of the MRFF staff, members, and clients are not Jewish.
In fact, 96% of our 23,000-plus service clients are Christians, mainly Protestant, followed by Catholics. The other 4% includes Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists, other faiths, and Free-thinkers including atheist and agnostics.
Most MRFF members, staff, volunteers and clients are veterans, whose ranks include active duty, reserve, and retired members, holding ranks from private through flag officer, with military specialties in fields from support through combat arms, and representing service eras ranging from WW II, Korea, and Viet Nam, on through Gulf I and the present GWOT. Many have been personally decorated, with medals ranging from the Purple Heart for wounds received in action, to the Bronze Star Medal w/ combat V for valor, the Silver Star Medal for conspicuous gallantry in action, and the Army, Navy, and Air Force Crosses for Gallantry. One of our members holds the Medal of Honor.
I myself am a veteran of the USMC, with service that included close personal ground combat in several major operations in Vietnam in 1967 and 1968.
My family also has a long history of military service dating back to the Revolutionary War and Civil War, and on through WW I, WW II, Korea, Vietnam, and Gulf I.
While not Jewish myself (I am an agnostic), I grew up in the years following WW II, when there were still many who had seen the Holocaust first hand. These included a (non-Jewish) Pole and a number of others who had survived the death camps, as well as family friends who had fought in Europe. One of these had been a combat photographer. He was of German (non-Jewish) descent, and was one of those detailed by Eisenhower (another German-descended American) to make a photographic and film record of the death camps, so that nobody could ever deny what had happened. As Eisenhower later wrote to Mamie, “I never dreamed that such cruelty, bestiality, and savagery could really exist in this world.”
( For the full story, see: http://www.eisenhowermemorial.org/stories/death-camps.htm )
The combat photographer had a Nazi helmet hanging upside down in a tree in his yard. He had picked it up during the war. It had an obviously fatal bullet hole in the side, near the emblem. I once asked him what it was there for. He said he had hung it there as a bird’s nest, which he thought was appropriate, because he had gotten it “from a bird-brain.” Despite his own Germanic heritage and descent, he despised the Nazis to the day he died.
My wife lost over half of the European branch of her family in the Holocaust.
Therefore I have absolutely NO doubt that the Holocaust happened, and of the Nazi and especially the SS role in that tragedy.
Sadly, most of that generation are now gone, and it seems that Ike didn’t factor the IQ (“Idiot Quotient”) into the equation.
As to the nature of the flag itself, and whether those Marines “knew” what they were getting — there can be no doubt that at least some of them knew this was a Nazi Schutzstaffel flag, since they obtained it from a web-site called “Traders of the Lost Surplus” (which one waggish reporter has dubbed “Nazis ‘R’ Us”), a site that specializes in Nazi replicas and memorabilia. Have a look for yourself:
http://www.totls.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16:close-out-corner&catid=1:home&Itemid=30
For your convenience, I attach a picture of the identical flag from that site, and the accompanying description:
7180. ss double runic flag, a favorite and well know (sic) ss flag, 3′ x 5′ $7.50
Perhaps you (along with many others) want to believe that these Marines somehow chose this flag without at least one of them noticing that it was a Nazi SS flag, or its knowing its history or origins. That would entail believing that these carefully selected, highly trained individuals are somewhat dumber than the average box of rocks.
Likewise, some try to claim some years of use for this symbol in Scout-snipers. While that may be true, it in no way makes it any more acceptable. Personally, I never encountered it during my time in (1966-77), and in several instances, I worked right alongside snipers. At Khe Sanh, in particular, we had one assigned to our corner of the lines, and no Nazi logos were to be seen anywhere on his person or equipment.
As Exhibit 2, here is a letter we recently received from a man purporting to be a Marine scout-sniper. I have redacted his name and E to protect his privacy (not that he deserves it), but his name shows that he is obviously of Germanic origin.
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Waffen SS Flag
>
> Mr. Michael Weinstein,
>
> Yes, we knew what that flag meant. We are mainly composed of white people of European descent (blacks can’t swim and it is too tough for jews). We have always acknowledged true fighters and the Waffen SS are an elite brotherhood of warriors, much like we are. More than 99% never saw a concentration camp or participated in Einsaztgruppen actions, much like the vast majority of the USMC has never perpetrated any war crimes. Many of our members are of German descent and not a few have ancestors who were in the Waffen SS. We certainly do not have the combat distinction of your Israeli Commandos (if I were a 12 year old Palestinian boy throwing rocks I may be scared) or the Air Farce. You are correct; we knew what that flag meant.
>
> (Name Redacted)
As you can see, this Marine at least not only admits to knowing the history and meaning of the flag, but excuses the behavior of the Waffen SS (a lie much circulated by modern neo-Nazis), and indeed glorifies those murderous bastards, while simultaneously making racially charged lies about blacks and Jews. He says he knows the meaning of that fag and symbol, and not only desn’t recant and apologize for its use, but actually glorifies and celebrates these bloody murderers of millions of unarmed men, women, and children. I personally cannot find any excuse for this, or any way to exonerate him, or any like him.
At least some of these Marines and others who chose to adopt this emblem knew full well what they were doing and what that flag meant. This is the same totally unacceptable racial or religious “supremacy” that has plagued our Corps and nation for many years, and is again raising its despicable head.
I have long been concerned with the direction of the Republic in many areas, and one of these areas has been the creeping advance of racist, fascist and totalitarian elements in our military. I remember being concerned when our services adopted the PASGT (aka “Fritz”) helmets in the 80s — not for their protection capabilities (obviously advantageous), but for their strong resemblance to Nazi helmets. I asked myself whether men who had fought the Nazis would have liked to have worn that helmet. I cannot think of any I knew who would have,
I might add that the Commandant, GEN Amos, agrees with us, and has seen fit to issue an apology, and a command that no Marines will henceforth fly or display any of these odious symbols of totalitarian terrorism.
However, from the tone and choice of words in your letter, it is quite obvious you are a racist and an anti-semite, and will be unlikely to be convinced by any evidence, since to a bigot like you, facts just get in the way of your ignorant beliefs, so I will close with some words of the immortal Samuel Clemens;
“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.”
I remain,
Semper Fidelis,
F. J. Taylor
USMC (Ret.)
Hello MRFF,
What history books have these critics been reading?
Anyone with a sense of history would know that if we had had watchdogs like the MRFF, the rest of the world wouldn’t have stood watching passively, and Hitler and Tojo might never have seized power. It is the religious and political fanatics (like those insane xenophobes) who can and will take power on the turn of a moment. Take a quick look around at our present-day dictators, all kleptocrats and murderers, in the Near East and Africa. (God is great???! If there was ever an Act of God, it was 9/11.)
My own WWII history? (1) My Jewish cousin and his parents fortunately fled Nazi Germany one step ahead of the soap factory, (2) My mother and 2 sisters (you heard right) spent 3 years as starving civilian prisoners of war in the Philippines, courtesy of the self-righteous Japanese invaders.
How quickly we forget. Take note of the 18th Century Parliamentarian Edmund Burke:
“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Keep it up Mikey, and do feel free to publish this,
(name withheld)
P.S. If you want to wave around “credentials,” I’m a 2-tour VN vet (DFC, Air Medals, blah, etc.) And … alas … I’m not Jewish.
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