your mission?

To whom it may concern:
    You have so many convoluted inconsistencies in your organization, it would be pointless to begin, other than to say you fit well the deceiver.
    To Mikey: if you are so involved in your own personal (Jewish) faith, why is it that you do not follow the shema?
    As a 25 year army (Christian) chaplain, it was my privilege to live out the biblical hope expressed therein.  To pass it along to those interested– and my experience is that most everyone is interested in things that count forever.
    The purpose of this note is not to pick a fight with you, but to let you know that not only was our country founded on the biblical Christian-Judeao Truth; it is STILL there, despite the (supposed) people who make the most noise about doing away with that kind of faith.
    You trying to suppress that faith (and that IS what you are about!) is sort of like you trying to keep multiple beach balls under water.  You can hold one, or two, or three down, temporarily, but the minute you release them, they will pop to the surface.  Just so, Truth will rise!
A boy with a lunch,
(name withheld)

Dear (name withheld),

 

First let me thank you for have the convictions in your belief to actually use a real email address and sign your name.  The majority of those who disagree with Mikey and MRFF are cowards that use bogus emails and wrap themselves in anonymity (see Bonnie’s book:  “To the Far Right Christian Hater….”)

 

Let me introduce myself … I too am a retired Lt Col, USAF.  I have known Mikey (& Bonnie) starting when we were classmates at the Air Force Academy.  Our two families really were Air Force Families as we lived in the same communities for two assignments and have remained close.  I write not to speak for Mikey – but as one who knows him and supports MRFF mission – the title of your email.

 

Now to your points …

Faith … it is such an emotionally charged topic.  Religious Faith requires one to believe in something that cannot be proven … for if it could … it would NOT be “faith.”  Looking at the world we live in, there are many faiths – not just yours.  IF yours was the True Word – would it not be universally accepted?  It is my opinion – people hear the christian word you share and do not accept your conclusion.  Just as the Hare Krishna share their word and you do not accept that.  The point – your faith – your belief – is yours … and I’m glad you have it.  You have a Right under our Constitution to have it … just as the Hare Kreishan or any other faith … or lack of faith.

 

I totally agree our country was founded upon the morality found in the Judea – Christian* belief systems.  Those founders, most of whom were deists at best, had been victimized by Christian zealots in Europe that believed the only true religion was that of the nation-state that they fled from.  The colonists were looking for a place where they could practice their belief … and not have a State imposed belief forced upon them.  Our founders feared the establishment of another system of intolerance that they had just left.  Our laws are built to protect us from anyone imposing another religious belief upon us.  I think we can both agree the world is not a safer place because nation-states are imposing religion upon their citizens.  BUT building upon the moral code in the Judea – Christian tradition does NOT mean we are a Christian nation any more than we are a Jewish nation.  Morality is not “trademarked” or exclusive to Christians … in fact, world history is full of people of all faiths failing in moral behavior.

 

As for Mikey and his faith … truly – it’s none of YOUR business.  Please see Matthew 7 and understand it is not for any man on earth to judge … in my Christian belief system – there is a judge … and it is NOT you (Romans 14:10).  Let God take care of the judging.

 

The Mission of MRFF is clear … it is found on their website.  I would like to draw your attention to the fourth bullet:  “Additionally, MRFF adheres strongly to the principle that religious faith is a deeply personal matter, and that no American has the right to question another American’s beliefs as long as they do not unwontedly intrude on the public space or the privacy or safety of another individual.”  MRFF fights for every service man or woman’s right to their individual faith – or lack thereof.  Are you aware that the majority of MRFF’s  40,000 plus armed forces and veteran clients … approximately 96%, are Christians … exactly what our Founding Fathers feared – imposition for the “right” kind of Christianity.

 

So Col Cummings … I hope you are safe where ever you are as you read this today.  And that you take a moment and pray for the men and women who wear our country’s uniforms … and their families who support them.  And be thankful they have the right to whatever religious belief they want (or elect not to have) – just as you and I did when we served.  And right now, you have the right to your belief and Mikey has the right to his … and neither one is being hunted and prosecuted by the establishment of the USA for that belief.  God bless,

Stan Hill

Lt Col, USAF (Ret)

 

‘* It’s Judea Christian … you can try and rewrite history … but even the New Testament acknowledges the Jewish faith was first.

 


Dear (name withheld),

Mikey is very busy helping our soldiers and asked me to respond to you.

We are in total amazement when people, such as you, write to us with some superior knowledge on who we are and what we stand for. Unless you have hidden cameras in Mikey’s home you have absolutely no idea about his personal faith.

Your Spirit of Discernment has failed you miserably where Mikey is concerned. He DOES chant the Shema three times a day.

 

It also failed you concerning those that are a part of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).

 

We are not an atheist organization nor are we anti-Christian. Mikey is Jewish (and prays 3 times a day to the same Father we do) and 75% of the Board, Advisory Board, volunteers and supporters of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) are Christians. In fact, 96% of our 40,000+ soldier clients (1 can represent 50 and 1 represents 100) are Christians. So, we fight for the rights of Christians more than any other religion.

 

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) does NOT act on its own but at the request of the soldiers’ and their complaints of the blatant disregard and trampling of the Constitution and the Military Code of Justice; blurring the lines between the separation of church and state. Every complaint is vetted by Mikey who was a JAG lawyer at the Air Force Academy for 10 years; worked in the West Wing under Ronald Reagan; and held positions in private practice.

 

We are an agent- intermediator – for the soldiers whose valid complaints are not heard. When the military oversteps the bounds laid down by our Constitution and military law, we step in.

 

While you were at our website to look for Mikey’s email, you should have at least looked at Our Mission:

“The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is dedicated to ensuring that all members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the Constitutional guarantees of religious freedom to which they and all Americans are entitled by virtue of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.

MRFF recognizes that military life requires individual adherence to shared patriotic principles. MRFF also recognizes the need for military personnel to at times temporarily relinquish some Constitutionally granted personal freedoms for the sake of military discipline and objectives.

However, MRFF believes that religious faith is a Constitutionally guaranteed freedom that must never be compromised, except in the most limited of military circumstances, because of its fundamental importance to the preservation of the American nation and the American way of life.

Additionally, MRFF adheres strongly to the principle that religious faith is a deeply personal matter, and that no American has the right to question another American’s beliefs as long as they do not unwontedly intrude on the public space or the privacy or safety of another individual.

Therefore, MRFF holds that:

No religion or religious philosophy may be advanced by the United States Armed Forces over any other religion or religious philosophy.

No member of the United States Armed Forces may be compelled in any way to conform to a particular religion or religious philosophy.

No member of the United States Armed Forces may be compelled in any way to witness or engage in any religious exercise.

No member of the military may be compelled to curtail – except in the most limited of military circumstances and when it directly impacts military discipline, morale and the successful completion of a specific military goal – the free exercise of their religious practices or beliefs.

Students at United States military academies are entitled to the same Constitutional rights pertaining to religious freedoms and the free exercise of those freedoms to which all other members of the United States Armed Forces military are entitled.

No member of the military may be compelled to endure unwanted religious proselytization, evangelization or persuasion of any sort in a military setting and/or by a military superior or civilian employee of the military.

The full exercise of religious freedom includes the right not to subscribe to any particular religion or religious philosophy. The so-called “unchurched” cede no Constitutional rights by want of their separation from organized faith.

It is the responsibility of the military hierarchy to ensure that the free exercise of religious freedoms of all enlisted personnel are respected and served.

All military personnel have the right to employ appropriate judicial means to protect their religious rights.”

Do you see anything there that says we are against Christianity? No!

We are a defender of the Constitution and fight for the religious rights or non-belief of ALL of our soldiers guaranteed them under it.

Growing up in one of the original 13 colonies, my education was steeped in its history of which part of it I will share with you here:

“During the Revolutionary War, the Continental Congress established different oaths for the enlisted men and officers of the Continental Army:

Enlisted: The first oath, voted on 14 June 1775 as part of the act creating the Continental Army, read: “I _____ have, this day, voluntarily enlisted myself, as a soldier, in the American continental army, for one year, unless sooner discharged: And I do bind myself to conform, in all instances, to such rules and regulations, as are, or shall be, established for the government of the said Army.” The original wording was effectively replaced by Section 3, Article 1, of the Articles of War approved by Congress on 20 September 1776, which specified that the oath of enlistment read: “I _____ swear (or affirm as the case may be) to be trued to the United States of America, and to serve them honestly and faithfully against all their enemies opposers whatsoever; and to observe and obey the orders of the Continental Congress, and the orders of the Generals and officers set over me by them.”

Officers: Continental Congress passed two versions of this oath of office, applied to military and civilian national officers. The first, on 21 October 1776, read: “I _____, do acknowledge the Thirteen United States of America, namely, New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, to be free, independent, and sovereign states, and declare, that the people thereof owe no allegiance or obedience to George the third, king of Great Britain; and I renounce, refuse and abjure any allegiance or obedience to him; and I do swear that I will, to the utmost of my power, support, maintain, and defend the said United States against the said king, George the third, and his heirs and successors, and his and their abettors, assistants and adherents; and will serve the said United States in the office of _____, which I now hold, and in any other office which I may hereafter hold by their appointment, or under their authority, with fidelity and honour, and according to the best of my skill and understanding. So help me God.” The revised version, voted 3 February 1778, read “I, _____ do acknowledge the United States of America to be free, independent and sovereign states, and declare that the people thereof owe no allegiance or obedience, to George the third, king of Great Britain; and I renounce, refuse and abjure any allegiance or obedience to him: and I do swear (or affirm) that I will, to the utmost of my power, support, maintain and defend the said United States, against the said king George the third and his heirs and successors, and his and their abettors, assistants and adherents, and will serve the said United States in the office of _____ which I now hold, with fidelity, according to the best of my skill and understanding. So help me God.”

As you can see, the oath for those that ENLISTED did not contain “So help me God” but the oath for OFFICERS did. These were written while we were still under the rule of King George III of Great Britain and the Anglican Church was their state religion which they imported here.

 

The Declaration of Independence from Britain was signed on July 4, 1776.

 

The Revolutionary War against Britain didn’t end until 1783 when we permanently gained our freedom and became independent.

 

The oaths for our military were created by the Continental Congress in 1775 and 1776; not under the Constitution which wasn’t created until September 17, 1787, ratified on June 21, 1788 and went into effect on March 4, 1789.

 

“The first oath under the Constitution was approved by Act of Congress 29 September 1789 – a mere 6 months after the Constitution went into effect – (Sec. 3, Ch. 25, 1st Congress). It applied to all commissioned officers, noncommissioned officers and privates in the service of the United States. It came in two parts, the first of which read: “I, A.B., do solemnly swear or affirm (as the case may be) that I will support the constitution of the United States.” The second part read: “I, A.B., do solemnly swear or affirm (as the case may be) to bear true allegiance to the United States of America, and to serve them honestly and faithfully, against all their enemies or opposers whatsoever, and to observe and obey the orders of the President of the United States of America, and the orders of the officers appointed over me.” The next section of that chapter specified that “the said troops shall be governed by the rules and articles of war, which have been established by the United States in Congress assembled, or by such rules and articles of war as may hereafter by law be established.”

 

So under our brand new Constitution the words “So help me God” were taken out pursuant to the Establishment Clause:

 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment (Establishment Clause) of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise (Free Exercise Clause) thereof . . . (1st Amendment)

 

The Establishment Clause comes before the Free Exercise Clause for a reason; the Free Exercise Clause is subservient to the Establishment Clause – not the other way around as some Christians would like it to be.

 

The Supreme Court heard the Lemon v. Kurtzman case in 1971 and ruled in favor of the Establishment Clause.

 

Subsequent to this decision, the Supreme Court has applied a three-pronged test to determine whether government action comports with the Establishment Clause, known as the Lemon Test:

 

  1. Any law or policy must have been adopted with a neutral or non-religious purpose.
  2. The principle or primary effect of any law or policy must be one that neither advances nor inhibits religion.
  3. The statute or policy must not result in an “excessive entanglement” of government with religion.

 

If any government entity’s actions fit into one of these three, then it is a violation of the Establishment Clause.

 

The Parker v. Levy case, decided on June 19, 1974, defined under the Uniform Code of Military Justice that “the military constitutes a specialized community governed by a separate discipline from that of the civilian…”

 

The rules that apply to the military do not apply to you or other Christians as civilians.

 

Our military swears an oath to the Constitution – not the bible.

The Army Times has the whole story on the poster:

The poster, which features a Special Forces patch along with Ranger, Airborne and Special Forces tabs, includes “a stock image” the command makes available for local recruiters, spokesman Brian Lepley said in an email, “but the text was changed by the local recruiting personnel” and not cleared by command headquarters.

Had the process been followed, the copy shown would not have been approved, Lepley said.

“Local recruiting offices order such display materials online, Lepley said, and the orders are filled by Accessions Support Brigade. An ASB catalog shows a similar image available as a sandwich board, with the tagline, “We don’t call for reinforcements. We make them.”

There are instructions in the catalog on how to tailor some materials to suit a local audience, but the wording on the Phoenix poster isn’t listed as one of 47 taglines that cover a variety of products.

Army Recruiting Command is investigating who ordered and/or approved the display, Lepley said.

The recruiter overstepped the bounds of the acceptable wordings on the poster and without the approval of his Command. Under the UCMJ he must be investigated and punished according to the rules and regulations he must obey…not ours.

As far as our country being “founded on the biblical Christian-Judeao Truth”, here’s what our Founding Fathers said about that:

The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian Religion. 1797, The Treaty of Tripoli, initiated by President Washington, signed by President John Adams, and approved by the Senate of the United States

Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man. Thomas Jefferson

… I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Thomas Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists, January 1, 1802

The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses. John Adams   A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America, 1787-88

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries. James Madison, c. 1803

 

 God has appointed two kinds of government in the world, which are distinct in their nature, and ought never to be confounded together; one of which is called civil, the other ecclesiastical government.” Founding Father Isaac Backus, An Appeal to the Public for Religious Liberty, 1773

 

 “We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society.”
Founding Father John Adams, letter to Dr. Price, April 8, 1785

 

“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

 

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

 

“Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.” Founding Father James Madison; Monopolies, Perpetuities, Corporations, Ecclesiastical
Endowments

No religious doctrine shall be established by law.” Founding Father Elbridge Gerry, Annals of Congress 1:729-731

“The legislature of the United States shall pass no law on the subject of religion.” Founding Father Charles Pinckney, Constitutional Convention, 1787

“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” Thomas Jefferson Notes on the State of Virginia , 1781 – 1785

“The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.” John Adams

“Have you considered that system of holy lies and pious frauds that has raged and triumphed for 1,500 years?” John Adams

“As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?”
John Adams — letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816

“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.” Thomas Jefferson to John Adams

 

“This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.” John Adams

 

“Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.” James Madison, Ibid, 1785

 

There are many in the Christian communities that are re-writing and cherry-picking our history to suit their agenda and leaving out the true facts. This makes them “the deceiver” – not us.

 

Instead of blindly following untruths about our founding, I suggest you do some research on your own.

 

Pastor Joan

MRFF Advisory Board Member


 

Dear (name withheld),
Well Chaplain, at least a few, very few of you Christians finally have the courage to sign your name to an admonishing message to MRFF. Most of the Gutless creeps send horrible ugly, ignorant, untruthful messages and cowardly threats w/o signing and use untraceable identity. No one is trying to destroy your religion- course if you try and resort to the ISIS  similar Great Inquisition or back to Banning we Sioux from our recaptured Native Spirituality thanks to MLK and other good people some were even good, non-nutt Christians- then you will face big trouble from we Sioux who gunned down the Army 8 to 1 forcing their forts to be burned down. Over half of my tribe especially the youth have happily returned to our ancestors way of beseeching to our Higher Power Concept- Benevolent Great Mystery, Great Spirit wherein we were far more moral and truthful than what you Christians have exhibited, 378 treaties* you have broken – “Under God We Trust” you put upon them to induce us to sign. You lied as usual. *  Larry McMurtry, Author, Crazy Horse- pg 77.
We strongly believe Creator is All Truth. All Knowledge and quite definite our belief there is a Spirit World Beyond where we All go. We separate according to how truthful we were here and how much of Creator’s obvious Knowledge all around us we observed, digested and applied while Here. This life here is a Test for the much longer one Beyond- our belief. The ignorant, addicted to Power, Control, disregard of family. tribal honor and duty will be cast with each other. Ignorance is not an excuse in the Spirit World. Lies, Untruth, are not allowed since Creator is All Truth which you people have no clue. Track Record is Track record as it definitely IS in Creator’s realm Beyond. No way will you bother us there. I doubt if you will find your made up Lucifer, Devil, Satan, whatever there either. But you definitely can keep him if you find him.
Have an unpleasant retirement  shrouded in ignorance and blinded by Man fostered zeal that ignores Creator in all that it makes.
 Oh? Have you ever heard of Climate Change since it is not in your man written, constantly altered  Black Book and your Jesus says nary a word? Better come up with one helluva another lie because the World is going to turn on you if CC keeps on expanding. Western Europe has already got your number.
Ed McGaa, JD, Registered , Enrolled Tribal Member, OST 15287. Former Marine Major, 110 combat missions as a F-4 Phantom Close Air Pilot out of Chu Lai Vietnam.

Dear (name withheld):I believe, from what you wrote, that you have misconstrued the purposes of the Military Religious Freedom organization.  Their goal is to have everyone in the military enabled, rather than coerced, to practice their First Amendment, Constitutional rights to worship or not as they see fit.

Too often in my twenty three and a half years as a Jewish chaplain in the United States Air Force, I witnessed enlisted and officers being proselytized against their will.  Too often when senior officers coerced their subordinates to attend Bible Study breakfasts, including, I might add, the National Prayer Breakfasts ( supposedly a “Civil Religious” event which too often turned into something else entirely), and other denominational, religious events, their core beliefs as well as their careers were put at risk.  Too often I witnessed chaplains who prayers were exclusionary.  They were not interested in building a team of warriors; they were not putting country and Constitutional freedoms first; they were putting their faith before their military duties as chaplains.  To my mind, these chaplains did not and do not belong in the military; for, they do not understand their role in or the purposes of the United States Armed Forces.

The MRF struggles and advocates for that military member who does not wish to be involved with religion, as is his or her right.  The MRF stands up for those who cannot stand up for themselves and their religious beliefs or lack thereof against those who would use their religious beliefs as a bludgeon.  In point of fact, you may believe that the way in which you believe and the way in which you pray is superior to the way anyone else chooses to believe and pray.  But when you cross the line of demanding that others pray and believe as you do, when you condemn others to Hell for their beliefs as occurred numerous times to my children at the Air Force Academy’s elementary school, you have committed an injustice against your intended subject.  Therein, Sir, lies the essence of the problem that the MRF is sworn to deal with.

That you served your country for a quarter of a century is, indeed, admirable.  That you most assuredly led your flock with zeal and fortitude is also commendable.  But your present praise of proselytization within the ranks is deleterious in many significant and too often hurtful ways.  I would urge you to consider the concept of a team entering battle and realize how critical that they not be divided by race, religion or sexual orientation.  Anything that divides that team may well put everyone’s life in danger.  Any divisive agenda jeopardizes not only these military members, it may compromise their mission.  Religious harassment, which unwarranted and unsought proselytization becomes, is not only unconstitutional, it is dangerous; for, it serves to undermine the mission of our military rather than serve its purposes.

Therein do I whole heartedly support the work of the Military Religious Freedom organization as I would hope you would as well.

Sincerely,

Joel R. Schwartzman,

Chaplain (Col.), USAF (Ret)


Hi (name withheld),

It concerns me and I’m one of those interested, so I’m happy to respond.

First, how Christian of you to be so condemning in your judgment. While it shouldn’t surprise me to see this kind of message from someone who describes himself as “a 25 year army (Christian) chaplain,” it still does. Call me old fashioned, but I continue to  expect men and women ‘of the cloth’ to be thoughtful, non-judgmental, considerate of the views of others and, more often than not, smart. You’ve managed to fail in every department.

In addition, for one not intending “to pick a fight” you somehow manage to be offensive, if ineffectual.

What, pray tell is “the biblical Christian-Judeao Truth” you maintain is the foundation of our country? Is it by chance the truth fundamental to most religions known to humankind, as well as most ethical and philosophical belief systems? One would think so, as most of those responsible for said founding, being Deists, Unitarians and skeptics, were careful to avoid attaching any religious basis to the new nation.

Now, while you ponder these questions, let’s let the truth rise. The fact is that, despite your assertion that you know otherwise, the MRFF is not interested in suppressing anyone’s faith. We believe in protecting the freedom of religious choice for all the women and men in the military. We are intent in protecting it from those, perhaps like you, who insist that everyone must believe the way they do. To put it in terms you may find easier to understand, we’re not interesting in pushing beachballs below the surface of the water. We are, though, intent on protecting the right of everyone to have and play with the beachball of her or his choice without anyone interfering with that play or, perish the thought, pushing another, different beachball on them. You see, there are some on that beach who  insist their particular beachball is the only true beachball. We think those folks have the right to their belief, but they don’t have the right to insist it on those beneath them in rank or station. And we also believe that if some of those on the beach choose to just enjoy the water without any beachball at all, that is his or her right as well.

It’s called freedom, Steve. Or maybe it’s easier to think of it as the separation of beachball and state.

Best,

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)

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  1. Jim

    What EXACTLY is “the biblical Christian-Judeao Truth” on which this country was supposedly founded? Can somebody write it down and show it to me? I’ll start you out: Our country’s founding truth is ______________. Fill in the blank. Be concise.

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