Last Birthday

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For a guy who says he’s a lawyer you know nothing about how American law is derived from the New Testament and the miracle of Jesus Christ.
You and your stiff-necked cohorts seem to get off on constantly trying to destroy the peace and love of Jesus in our armies. (Acts Chap 7)

You are but flesh and blood and will whither as the grass. But the King of Kings reigns supreme forever.
Lord Jesus shed his precious blood to guarantee your place with Him in Eternity.

Accept His free gift and disciple others to do the same.
Or play the fool and reject His love and be consigned to satan and his flames in hell forever.

A little net research shows it’s to be your birthday soon Mickey? Inching ever closer to your special place burning in hell. Apostate Weinstein
My unit and me will pray to Him and His Son that it will be your last birthday. (Psalm 109) And so your efforts to cleanse the military of Christ’s power will perish with you.

(name withheld)


 

Dear (name withheld),

Like most religious misfits you seek to replace Jesus in the judgement department. Jesus is qualified to handle this stuff on his own without the help of those  such as yourself.

American law was extracted from English common law and has nothing to do with the Bible or any other religious document.

The United States Constitution contains not one word about religion or Gods.

You would do well not to attempt to commingle religious  and secular life.

Please hold and respect your religious beliefs while respecting the beliefs and non-beliefs of others.

Rick Baker
Capt. USAF (MedRet)
MRFF Volunteer.

 

Hi Mikey.

In the first place, I’m sorry to see that for a guy who says he is a Marine, this cowardly, semi-literate puke obviously doesn’t know shit from shinola about the law, its origins or much of anything else outside his own (clearly nasty) version of his superstition of choice. (And I’d wager he doesn’t really know anything much about that either, except for the BS he clearly soaked up from his equally ignorant local witch-doctor.)

In the first place, if he really is in the Corps, he clearly isn’t of  it, nor is he living up to its ideals and purpose and what he swore to do — uphold and defend our secular Constitution.
 
I am inclined not to believe he is a Marine, because REAL Marines don’t send anonymous nasty-grams making thinly-veiled threats of voo-doo “death by prayer.” We make personal contact using our REAL names and Es. If he is a genuine Marine, let’s see him put up or shut up! (Five bucks says he is too chicken-shit!)

REAL Marines (or for that matter, real Americans) also should know what our laws are and how they originated, and what their main loyalties are to — and it ain’t JC or any other superstition du jour – it is the Constitution, which we all swore to uphold and defend (if indeed he actually is in the service), and the nation — not his deity and sacred texts of choice.  For his convenience (since he obviously isn’t much of a reader, in addition to not being a lawyer or historian) I’ll refresh his obviously feeble memory.
The first oath under the Constitution was approved by Act of Congress 29 September 1789 (Sec. 3, Ch. 25, 1st Congress). It applied to all commissioned officers, noncommissioned officers and privates in the service of the United States. It came in two parts, the first of which read:

“I, A.B., do solemnly swear or affirm (as the case may be) that I will support the constitution of the United States.”

The second part read:

“I, A.B., do solemnly swear or affirm (as the case may be) to bear true allegiance to the United States of America, and to serve them honestly and faithfully, against all their enemies or opposers whatsoever, and to observe and obey the orders of the President of the United States of America, and the orders of the officers appointed over me.” 

Note that neither part of the original oath even mentions any deity, in concordance with the Constitution.)
However, as a result of the work of “creeping Christianism” since the Founding, and especially in the post-WW II era, the long-standing 1789 enlistment oath was changed in 1960 by amendment to Title 10, with the amendment (and current wording) becoming effective in 1962.
The current oath Armed Forces oath (except the National Guard) reads:

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

 
(Note: The phrase “So help me God” [which as noted did not exist prior to 1962] is not mandatory. Officers generally allow enlistees to omit these words, if they choose, according to their religious preference and beliefs. While federal law does not appear make any part of the oath optional [see Title 10, Section 502 of the United States Code], military regulations often do. For example, the Army enlistment regulation [see Army Regulation 601-210, paragraph 6-18] makes the portion “So help me God” optional. I did not say that phrase at any of my three enlistments, nor was I required to do so by those swearing me in.  More recently, a USAF career serviceman wishing to omit the “So Help Me God” portion of the oath prevailed in his challenge to his command’s attempt to mandate it.  I am quite certain that if it went to the SCOTUS, such a mandatory phrase would be shot down in flames because it clearly violates both Article VI, Section III [“No religious test”] and the First Amendment’s Freedom of Religion clauses, op. cit.)
So, “rgansehn” (or whatever his real name is, the chicken-shit little Net bravo and wanna-bee Marine!), as even a brainless zealot like him SHOULD be able to see, we didn’t sign up to “uphold and defend” Yahweh, JC, or the NT — we swore to uphold and defend the clearly secular Constitution.
As this butter-brain would know (if he ever bothered to read it), the USA is, by wise design of the Framers, a secular nation, as proven by our Constitution, which was drafted by MEN, not “gods” or under the auspices of heaven — as Founder and Framer John Adams clearly said in “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” (1787-88);

“The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature;  and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity.

It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.

(Emphasis added.)

 

(Well, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, et al, obviously HOPED it would never be pretended — but ignorant scuts like this are obviously unaware of that!)

Adams also wrote;

“. . . Thirteen governments thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.

 
(Emphasis added.)

Surely even the most entrenched zealot should be able to read such a clearly worded statement and determine that Adams (one of the prime movers in the Revolution and establishment of this country) had no belief in “Divine Intervention” in the establishment of the US.  But sadly, they either are ignorant of or deliberately ignore these clear statements by the men who actually crafted this nation.
As to the Constitution itself it does not mention any deity or religion except to state clearly :
“. . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”   (Article VI, Section III)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”  (1st Amendment)

(Emphasis added.)

In addition to the Constitution and the writings of many of the principal and most important Founders and Framers, we have an early legal document stating quite clearly that the US is NOT a Christian nation.
In 1797 America made one of its earliest foreign treaties with the Muslim kingdom of Tripoli (in the present state of Libya).
This treaty was initially drafted on November 4th, 1796 (at the end of Washington’s presidency) by Joel Barlow, the American consul to Algiers. (Barlow was a friend to Jefferson and Madison, and had been an Army chaplain in the Revolutionary War appointed by Washington himself, but he later abandoned dogmatic religion and became a Rationalist.)

Barlow forwarded the treaty to the Senate, where it was endorsed by Secretary of State Timothy Pickering, approved by the Senate, and signed by the new President, John Adams on June 10th, 1797, and published in the Philadelphia Gazette on June 17th of that year.

This treaty explicitly states (in Article 11);

“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

(Emphasis added.)
Thus, in one of our earliest treaties with a foreign power (ironically, from an Islamic culture), our first two Presidents and Congress agreed that the US was “not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion” – in other words, we were a secular nation. Q.E.D.

(Emphasis added.)
As to the other laws of this land, the Constitution is the bed-rock of all AMERICAN law, NOT his NT or any other mythology.
As Jefferson wrote;
“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.” – Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814
(Emphasis added.)
As Jefferson (who was also a lawyer) knew, our law system was derived from laws and legal systems that were in existence before the Decalogue first appears in history, let alone his relatively recent “New Testament.”
The common law of England (from which ours derived) was initially based on PAGAN Anglo-Saxon law, which in turn was based on rules used by most of the Germanic peoples of northern Europe who were originally Pagan. Local customs governed most matters, but while the church later played a part in government and the court system (due to generally being among the few who could read and write), they did not dictate law, other than the canon law, which was for clerics.  Crimes were were for the most part treated as they had been in pagan times – as personal or familial wrongs, for which compensation was made to the victim or his heirs, at a rate according to his station in life.

These laws began to be codified and formalized in England after the accession of Alfred the Great (871).

The Norman Conquest (1066) also produced changes, such as feudal vassalage. Serious wrongs were now regarded as public crimes rather than as personal matters, and perpetrators were punished, usually by death and (of course) forfeiture of property.

Government was centralized, a bureaucracy built up, and written records maintained in Latin and Norman French. Elements of the old Anglo-Saxon system survived, such as a jury, “trial by ordeal” (i.e., physical test or combat), the practice of outlawry (putting a person beyond the protection of the law), and writs (orders requiring a person to appear before a court).

Important consolidation occurred during the reign of Henry II (1154–89). Royal officials went around the country overseeing the administration of justice. However, church and state were separate and had their own law and court systems. (This led to centuries of rivalry over jurisdiction, especially since appeals from church courts could be taken to Rome before the Reformation.)

The Franco-Normans had likewise developed a customary law in Normandy based originally on their own Pagan Germanic (Viking) roots. They had no professional lawyers or judges per se, but  instead, (after Christianization) literate clergymen acted as administrators. Some of the clergy were familiar with the older Roman law and the canon law of the Christian church, developed in the universities of the 12th century. Canon law was applied in the English church courts, but the revived Roman law was less influential in England than elsewhere, despite Norman dominance in government. This was due largely to the early sophistication of the Anglo-Norman system. Norman custom was not simply transplanted to England; upon its arrival, a new body of rules, based on local conditions, emerged.

Wherever any form of Christianity became an established state religion, persecution and abuse arose, and the more influence a church had, the worse for society. History abounds with examples.

So in short, the law in this country developed from English common law, which, as you can see, had a number of influences — including Pagan traditions and customs. Jefferson knew what he was talking about — unlike this ignorant schmuck.

So there’s his history, Constitutional and legal lessons for the day — though I doubt if he is capable of either understanding or absorbing them, as he is clearly a bigoted, wild-eyed zealous putz, with a pea where his brain should be (and where his cojones should be as well).  He can now go back to his witless reading of his NT and whatever other reading material he likes — probably comic books, judging from his deficient verbiage.
Oh, and one last thing for Mr. “Marine” and any fellow god-crazy putzes in his unit – he called you “Apostate” – apostasy is the formal disaffiliation from, or abandonment or renunciation of a religion. Since you never were a Christian, you can hardly be an “apostate” from it. You could be an “apostate” from Judaism, but not from Christianity, which you never professed.
I, on the other hand, am an “apostate” as I was raised a Catholic, but abandoned it early in life. Now I refer to myself as a “recovering Catholic.”
As to your efforts being to uphold the Constitution, and keep the military clear of  any religion being inflicted on unwilling service personnel, may there always be a man like you to do exactly that. To that end, I hope that I and all who believe as we do can and will step up to the plate (when your time does come) and say loudly  and clearly;
I am Spartacus! 
If rgansehn and his fellow half-witted fools are so hot to live in a theocracy and kill for their idiotic superstitions, they should head for Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan, and they and the IS and all the other ignorant zealots can knock the crap out of one another!  (Spero meliora – We live in hope!)
I remain, sir, respectfully and
Semper Fidelis,
F. J. Taylor
USMC (Ret.)
(As you know, my REAL name, unlike “rgansehn” and the host of cowardly thugs who write anonymously!)
PS: You may as always publish this anywhere you like.
PPS: I always get a kick out of the zealots when they say things like “Accept His free gift – preceded or followed by threats of death!  Kind of like the Islamic radicals who offer their captives a “choice” of conversion or death!
Speaking of which, I LOVE this cartoon, which states it like it really is and shows the Christian “free gift” for what it is and always has been – a threat, and often not a veiled one! This is the basis of the many persecutions of Pagans, Jews and others, as well as the Crusades (especially those against their fellow “apostate” and “heretic” Christians!), the Inquisition, the Witch Hunts and many other clerical imprisonments, tortures and murders in the name of their own “religion of peace.”

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