GOD IS BETTER THAN YOU (with MRFF responses)

God loves you, Christains out number Athiests, salvation, cross, Heaven, prayer, Jesus Jesus Jesus, Christ, Christmas, Veterans For Christ, more Jesus Zjesus Jesus, Christ for Athiests, Athiests Love Jesus in secret,

(name withheld)


 

Dear (name withheld),

I’m going to have to go by your subject line – God is better than you – because the body of your email is nothing but a jumble of Christian words.
 
God is better than you, too.
 
The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. (Matthew 10:24)
 
The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master. (Luke 6:40)
 
None of us is perfect so we can’t be on an equal footing with God. The next verse tells us why:
 
AND why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? (Luke 6:41)
 
Verily, verily, I say unto you, the servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. (John 13:16)
 
Thanks for stopping by.
 
Pastor Joan
MRFF Advisory Board Member

Hi  (name withheld),

Your message didn’t tell me a lot, but your mantra, complete with misspellings says

a bit about you.

You are welcome to your belief, as far as I am concerned.

For the record, and contrary to what you’ve probably heard, we at the MRFF have nothing against

Christians or those who subscribe to any other belief system. We simply believe the right of

freedom of religious choice, or non-religious choice, of our women and men in the military
must be honored and protected from people who want to force their own particular belief

system on them.

I can’t imagine that you disagree with that. But maybe you do. If so, let me know and

perhaps you can enlighten me on why religious proselytizing in and/or by a governmental
organization should be tolerated. As I understand our Constitution and the body of laws that

have derived from it, our government in all its forms should not be in the business of promoting

one belief system over another.

Something wrong with that?

Mike Farrell

MRFF Board of Advisors.)(


 

It’s a matter of time, place and manner. A chaplain, who is an officer, is out of order when speaking what he considers “words of God” to those under his authority when it is not a religious service and members of the military who are inferior in rank or station are required to be there.

He certainly can speak his “words of God,” as you deem them, in chapel or appropriate places at appropriate times, but not to those who are obliged to be there and hear them when they do not share his faith and feel they are being ‘preached to’ inappropriately.

I hope the difference is clear to you.

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)

Well why would the chaplain get in trouble for speaking words of god?


 

Good Afternoon, (name withheld) –
Thanks for taking the time to write to the MRFF.  Mikey Weinstein has asked if I’d be interested in sending you a quick reply, which I’m glad to do.  I’m a Christian, a USAF Academy graduate (’85), and a USAF veteran… in addition to being a supporter of the MRFF.
With respect, you seem to have a significant misunderstanding of the MRFF and those of us who support its efforts.  No one is suggesting that we are ‘better’ than God.  In fact, our focus is not religious in any way — rather, we are a Constitution rights advocacy group.  Specifically, the mission of the MRFF is to ensure that all members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the Constitutional guarantees of religious freedom to which they and all Americans are entitled by virtue of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
That’s it — no competition with God, and certainly no disrespect intended to Him.
One thing that you mention does stand out to me, as a good example of why it’s important that someone advocate for the religious rights of all service members, particularly those in the minority.  You rightly point out that “Christians outnumber Atheists”.  This is certainly true in America, and in the US military. Christians also outnumber every other religious group. T
That is why those of us in the religious majority, Christians like me and you, must take care to ensure that we don’t allow any threat to the civil rights of those who don’t happen to agree with us. The thing that makes America truly great, in my opinion, is the US Constitution.  Every American, and especially every service member who has sworn an oath to protect and defend that document, is owed all of the rights and protections that it contains.
So again, thanks for writing.
Peace,
Mike Challman
Christian, USAF veteran, MRFF supporter

Let me ask you a question.. Why is the chaplain in trouble for speaking words tat have to do with god?

(name withheld)

Hi (name withheld) –

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, had a busy work week. You ask an interesting question, and one that is worth considering.
As you may or may not know, the military chaplaincy is a really unique role for any minister — much different than anything that he may be asked to do in the civilian sector.  This uniqueness stems from the fact that a military chaplain actually has two aspects to the job.
One part is to minister specifically to military members who share his particular religious persuasion – for example, a Jewish rabbi with Jewish members, a Catholic priest with Catholic members, a Baptist minister with Baptist members, and so on.  As you may know, in order to be a chaplain the individual must be ‘sponsored’ or sanctioned by one or another sectarian group or religious denomination.  But even that aspect of the military chaplaincy was not introduced until more than 40 years after the ratification of the US Constitution — prior to that time, may chaplains were non-denominational.
And as I said, there is a second part to the duties and responsibilities of a military chaplain…. he is not there just to have a means to promote his own particular sectarian beliefs. Chaplains are also tasked with providing support to military members of other religious beliefs, including non-belief.  This is necessary because it is impossible for the military to provide a uniformed chaplain for every conceivable sectarian belief, and every military chaplain knows that he must support soldiers, sailors, and airmen who don’t share his particular beliefs.
Simply put, if a military chaplain is using his position to specifically promote his own sectarian beliefs at all times, in all situations, to all military members, then he is not acting in an appropriate manner for a military chaplain.  To be sure, this means that the chaplain sometimes has to walk a fine line, but that line should not be a surprise to the individual chaplain. But the military chaplaincy does not exist to serve as a missionary platform… it exists to support the needs to all military members of all sectarian beliefs and non-beliefs. An individual who is unable or unwilling to accept the pluralistic aspect of the troops that he supports probably should not be a military chaplain.
Peace,
Mike

Curious question, why does it seem like you have a hard time with God’s wrath or that is part of His nature?

(name withheld)

Hi (name withheld) –

My response is equally curious — why would you presume that I have a “hard time with God’s wrath or that is [sic] part of His nature”?
If what you mean is, why don’t I dwell on that aspect of God’s nature foremost and above all of His other attributes, then I offer the following thoughts —
Do you know how often my wife and I discuss divorce?  Never.  Does that mean that we believe it could never happen to us?  Not at all.  But rather than focus on that outcome, we find it more fruitful to focus on doing what we can to ensure a strong, healthy marriage… and in doing so, we don’t have to worry about divorce.
Do you know how often I think about getting fired from my job? Never. Does that mean that I believe that I can never be fired?  Not at all. But rather than focus on that outcome, I find it more meaningful to focus on doing the things that make me a valuable employee… and in doing so, I don’t have to worry about being fired.
Do you know how often I dwell on God’s wrath?  Never. Does that mean that I am ignoring that ‘wrath’ is part of His nature? Not at all.  But rather than focus on that single aspect, I understand that He is much more than a “wrathful God” — He is first and foremost a just God. So I find it more meaningful to focus on doing things that make me the best disciple that I can be, by loving God with my whole being and loving others as myself…. and in doing so, I do my small part to help spread God’s joyful message… while entrusting all of the judgment to Him.
I’ve said before, and I’ll say again — it seems to me that too many conservative, Evangelical Christians focus on what other people are doing, rather than tending to their own business.  God is not going to judge you for the sins of others, Bob… and contrary to a comment you made in an earlier email, God most certainly did NOT cause, nor even allow, thousands of people to die on 9/11 because He was pissed at some segment of the American populace.
Peace,
Mike

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