MARINE CORPS TIMES – Religious sign at MCB Hawaii again under fire

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12 Comments

  1. Yeshua Warrior

    I just laugh at the audacity of Mr. Weinstein demanding a Marine Corps colonel to bow down to his demands as though he were God. Mr. Weinstein is nothing more than a two bit bully that just needs to have a can of whoop ass opened on him by two Marine drill sargeants and he will change his tune really fast.

    Mr. Weinstein needs to realize that this is no wussy Air Force officer he is talking to, but a Marine Corp officer who eats AF Jag officers for breakfast and spits out the their bones.

    If I were Col, Killeen I would nicely as possible tell Mr. Weinstein and Tobanna Barker to kiss my Gluteus Maximus and blow out their rear end.

    Mr. Weinstein has no authority to erect another sign on the Marine Corps base, and again if I were Col. Killeen, I would direct the front gate guards that if he tries to step one foot on the base to throw him out on his rear end. Good luck trying to get on base Mr. Weinstein, and I would tell your body guards as well to prepare to be put flat on their back complements of the US Marine Corps.

    I think I will place a call to Col. Killeen tomorrow and tell him that his son and nephew of Marine Corps WWII vets to kick some MRFF tail, Oorah!!

  2. G

    “Mr. Weinstein needs to realize that this is no wussy Air Force officer he is talking to, but a Marine Corp officer who eats AF Jag officers for breakfast and spits out the their bones.”

    YW, you don’t know what the Marine colonel eats for breakfast so why do you ask him when you call him up?

    “Mr. Weinstein has no authority to erect another sign on the Marine Corps base.”

    The Marine colonel had no authority to erect a Christian sign at the front gate and was told by the MRFF to take it down and move it to the Christian church on the base or put other signs next to the Christian sign. The colonel had his chance and blew it big time.

    “Mr. Weinstein is nothing more than a two bit bully that just needs to have a can of whoop ass opened on him by two Marine drill sargeants and he will change his tune really fast.”

    Mr. Weinstein is not a bully compare to the adult bullies who beaten him at the USAF Academy and to the adult bullies who tried to shove down Christianity on other cadets at the place. If the Marines tried to beat up Mr. Weinstein, their next place of assignment will be an all expense paid trip to the naval brig in Plymouth.

  3. jimbo

    As a civilian I worry about the integrity of those in the military who exhibit the dominionist traits I define, ones of lying, hating murder and war, which I further define as tools of devils. They are not used by ‘real’ Christians, but in fact those who use the dominionist tools hide behind ‘real’ Christians. Colonel Killeen chose to include ‘God’ in his sign when he could easily have avoided the controversy by simply avoiding using the term God. But he didn’t chose to avoid that term, leaving one to wonder what was his purpose? I as a civilian am fighting a local similar action, where a concert on government grounds here where I live included a dominionist display. When I questioned the promoter of that blues festival why that display was included, the first thing he did was lie about it, he stated he didn’t know about it. Yet one thing that was very visible at the concert was the security present. Somehow his security didn’t view the display, and further didn’t report to the promoter about the violation. Then when I discussed the event with the local paper, the editor lied in my face, implying that those who did it (admitting finally that the event did occur) it was just some ‘enthusiastic’ fans. See how easily these lies occur? I believe it is clear the obligations of any in the military is to put the Constitution of the United States first and foremost, I don’t believe Col. Killeen and those like him are doing that, and I wonder why they still are members of the military that demands personal integrity first and foremost.

  4. Tobanna

    Yeshua Warrior –

    While you have every right to laugh at MRFF’s recent demand to Col. Killeen, I assure you that we do not insist he “bow down” to Mr. Weinstein’s demands “as though he were God.” We only demand that he obey the mandates of the U.S. Constitution, which he is sworn to defend. All military officers, along with all other state actors, are bound by the First Amendment – regardless of whether they prefer oatmeal or the flesh of other officers as their breakfast of choice.

    The authority to erect additional signs is clearly cited in the demand letter sent to Col. Killeen. If you do not agree with the authority cited, I have bad news for you – it’s the law. I have performed extensive research on this issue and I can confidently state that nowhere in the Constitution, of the case law interpreting it, is there any mention of your name or any exception for people who simply do not like the requirements established.

    In the event it is unclear, please let me be frank – neither Mr. Weinstein nor I have any intention of kissing anyone’s “gluteus maximus.” We will continue to fight on behalf of our many clients at MCB Hawaii and a “can of whoop ass” will not make us “change our tune,” but will only make us sing it louder. You don’t even want to know what I eat for breakfast.

    Tobanna Barker

  5. Yeshua Warrior

    Mr. G,

    You say that if Marines try to beat up on Mr. Weinstein they will find themselves in the brig, well not if they are wearing masks, and as the saying goes, rubber hoses do not leave any marks, neither does water boarding. LOL, just kidding!

  6. Yeshua Warrior

    Ms. Tobanna,

    First amendment says that “Congress shall not establish any religion, well the last time I checked, a Marine Corps officer does not belong to Congress.

  7. Mary

    I’m wondering what YW would have to say about it if the sign under discussion were to invoke the blessings of Allah. Would that be okay with YW, under the premise stated that the Marines are not Congress, so the Marines can publicly, on base, call for help to any deity they wish and if Xtians don’t like it, tough. Just wondering.

  8. Yeshua Warrior

    Wow, glad to know I got a reaction out of Mr. Weinstein and it is laughable when he says that Tobanna gave a devastating reply. Hmm, I don’t feel devastated in the least from her reply.

    What I know is that the God of Israel is an immovable person, and no matter what Mr. Weinstein or Tobanna does regarding Col. Killeen, it will not come about unless God allows them to. God is still on the throne, not man, and all our lives including Mr. Weinstein’s, Tobanna’s and myself are in His hands!

    So, they can threaten Col, Killeen all they want to, but if it is not God’s will, it will be all for naught.

    Personally, we should want God’s blessing on our military, for without it, our military could be literally wiped out. I do know that the Israel Defense Forces ask for God’s blessings on them, and the IDF is made up of Jews, Messianic Jews, Arab Christians, Arab Muslims and Druze. History shows that God’s blessing has been on Israel and their military as they have never lost a battle in over 3,000 years!!

    May God’s will be done and His kingdom come to earth!!

  9. Yeshua Warrior

    While people like Mr. Weinstein and others of MRFF throw around the term of Dominionists, what I believe Mr. Weinstein and others related to MRFF suffer from is Christianophobia!! He and others in our society today are afraid of us Christians and want to put us into a closet where we will never be driven into.

    Mr. Weinstein and Tobanna and others, read this article which explains exactly how you feel – http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2015/march-web-only/what-christianophobia-looks-like-in-america.html?start=1

  10. Yeshua Warrior

    It amazes me that Mr. Weinstein and Tobanna are getting their panties in a twist over a stupid sign wishing that God would bless our mililtary, while over in Wash DC, our Muslim president has literally destroyed our military in the last 7 years with repealing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, saying that our greatest threat to national security is climate change, now what idiot would believe that nonsense, oh that is right, Obama does which only proofs he is an idiot! Our military has been cut way back to pre-WWII numbers, so if things keep going the way they are, Mr. Weinstein and Tobanna will be out of job all together because there will be no military left to worry about regarding Christians and their religious freedoms.

    As I see it there are only 4 things that can be done to turn this around.
    1. Obama is impeached and tried for treason
    2. The military takes over the government with a coup.
    3. The military takes out Obama all together
    4. Israel sends a Mossad hit squad and takes out Obama, Biden, Hillary and Kerry then we can start rebuilding our military back to strength. I love the slogan of the Mossad, “it is never an accident.” We all know what happened after the Munich massacre where 11 Israeli athletes were killed by Palestinian terrorists, Prime Minister Golden Meir gave a license to kill to 4 Israeli agents where they hunted down and assassinated all 11 who were involved in the massacre, including one woman as well. Man how I love how Israel deals with terrorists!! God bless Israel!!

  11. Connie

    The battle is real; everything YW says is evidence to support this fact.

    I’ve asked him about the rights of other religions before. I’ve been insulted and dismissed. I guess that is an answer. In YW speak the only religion that exists is how he personally believes. The fact that his flavor of religion is considered toxic by quite a few folks pleases his persecution complex. After all there are passages in his holy book which justify said complex.

    YW needs to recognize and respect other people and their faiths in my opinion. He also needs to revisit the oath he claims to have made to defend the constitution. I wouldn’t want to be foresworn before a deity I professed to obey.

  12. G

    “First amendment says that “Congress shall not establish any religion, well the last time I checked, a Marine Corps officer does not belong to Congress.”

    An officer is still answerable to Congress when they summons him/her to a committee hearing and if he/she refuses, he/she will be held in contempt of Congress.

    “Personally, we should want God’s blessing on our military, for without it, our military could be literally wiped out.”

    George Custer got wiped out at the Little Big Horn, fought a draw in Korea. and we lost Vietnam so I guess God was not on our side in those events.

    “What I know is that the God of Israel is an immovable person…”

    Yeah, God got his butt thrown around in a wrestling match with Jacob and couldn’t beat him fair and square.

    2. The military takes over the government with a coup.
    3. The military takes out Obama all together

    The Constitution forbads the military from doing those sorts of thing YW.

    “History shows that God’s blessing has been on Israel and their military as they have never lost a battle in over 3,000 years!!”

    If that was true, YW, the Israelis would have not lost to the Romans and the Babylonians and be scatter to the winds nor would have been slaves to the Egyptians and would not have lost in the Battle of the Warsaw Ghetto.

    “….others related to MRFF suffer from is Christianophobia!”

    And the USA seems to suffer from various phobias throughout its history such as fear of the Jews, fear of unions, fear of Asians, fear of Muslims, fear of progressives, fear of liberals, fear of communists, fear of the Irish, Southern, and East Europeans immigrants in the 19th century,etc.

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