4/12/16 FOX NEWS unleashes fundamentalist rage vs. MRFF: Bibles are being removed from Missing Man tributes at VA clinics and military bases. Why?
– April 12, 2016
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The problem is, Fox Noise and unprincipled Conservatives, that too many people in the Armed Forces do not believe that there was anything magical or “divine” going on over in the desert 2000 years ago. No “loaves and fishes”, no “water into wine” no one coming back to life after being dead for 3 days. It was all made up by MEN, scared, superstitious MEN, and “improved on” over the centuries. The “scripture” we keep hearing about, is just so much ancient, ignorant mythological BS, and that’s it. That’s all it is. The one, the ONE good thing in the Bible that I know of, is “The Golden Rule”. That’s meaningful. The rest is not.
Hey Jerry,
You will never find the “Golden Rule” in the bible anywhere.
Oh ye of little faith Jerry, tell me how this works out for you when you stand before Jesus of Nazareth, risen from the dead after you die, and He says depart from me for I never knew you unto eternal hell where there is only weeping and gnashing of teeth.
It is very sad to watch a once God fearing strong nation destroyed from within. As a Christian, I believe the Word of God which teaches we are not to judge on our own merit. Through Jesus’ sacrifice, we have free will to chose how we live our lives and what we want to believe. As society and government work endlessly to endorse beliefs that go against tradition and persecute Christians for following the Word, our Country and values slowly diminish and ultimately perish. If people chose to have no tolerance for Chritianity or the Bible, that is their choice. However, when you remove the Bible, a symbol of hope, faith, and strength many veterans, POW’s, and families hold dear, you are taking away more than just a book. You are destroying the very foundation many, including our founding fathers stood.
Very well said Dana, God bless you!!
Dana, this has nothing to do with any god or the bible and everything to do with fairness. People of other faiths and of no faith have struggled and died for this country since it’s inception. They have done so despite the unfairness and disdain shown by members of certain prevailing faiths. If we ever were or ever intend to become a country representing those ideals written into the Constitution, then putting any faith before others must not continue. Whether the bible or the koran or any other books are true or not, the Constitution is real and it is OURS. Place your respect where it belongs.
I agree Dana, it is sad when something that works – separation of church and state- is destroyed from within (Christian supremacists).
The ability to share is a skill learned while a child. Perhaps our great nation should take a refresher course.
There is nothing unconstitutional or objectionable about individuals bringing Bibles (or Korans, or scriptures from any faith) into VA hospitals for themselves or to share. But if you don’t see that there is something very wrong with the VA, a government run agency, providing Bibles or giving preferred access to Christian groups to provide Bibles or religious service to the servicemen then there may be no hope for you. Such access would be Christian privilege above other religions, promoted by the government and is clearly a direct violation of the establishment clause. I’m an atheist, and I would fight and die to protect your right to freely practice your faith. But I’m an American and I believe strongly that the Founding Fathers got it right when they said “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof….” At your own peril you try and try to get special privilege for Christianity to have dominion over all others, not realizing the risk that one day, when someone succeeds at doing so they may force an interpretation of your faith that you don’t agree with and rule you with the force of law. He that has an ear, let him hear.
It was really hurting you because there was a Bible on that table? Now you have truly proved that you have nothing but disrespect for our POWs/MIAs. You are nothing but a bunch of punks and cowards. Now you have a new reason that you will be in need to pray for. Use your imagination.
James L Sager: you asked if having a bible on the POW table was hurting anyone.
Well, deliberate violations of the USA Constitution should be painful to every citizen. It certainly was troubling for many service folk who came to MRFF for help.
Did you really call our service people punks and cowards?
I’m amazed at your hubris but what concerns me most is your vague threat – leaving a reason for me to pray to my imagination. I can imagine a lot James – I was married to a Marine who trained in counter terrorism. Why don’t you speak clearly?
” Now you have truly proved that you have nothing but disrespect for our POWs/MIAs.”
How is removing the Bible from the VA clinics showing disrespect for POW/MIAs?