A question for Mikey

Mr “Mikey”,
>>      How stupid are you sir? Unmeasurable if you ask me…..no level of intelligence as low as yours. Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin is the purest form of American Heroism there can be. A man whose entire life has been spent sacrificing for others. A man who is humble and brave, honest and hard nosed. How would you expect him to feel about certain issues….ol mikey? Would you have the Delta Force General revere muslims? Muslims, who in huge numbers are turning our entire world on its head, igniting conflicts and wars all over this world? You would have him love those people…and talk about how wonderful they are,how just a small percentage commit these atrocities. I would advise you take a history lesson sir, and listen to someone besides Racheal Maddow. There is a wonderfully insightful video on YouTube by a brilliant young man named Ben Shapiro, called “The myth of the radical muslim minority”. And thats all it is….a myth. The vast majority of muslims have radical beliefs, ranging from “honor killings” to suicide bombings, beheadings and stonings. Yet you would have Lt Gen Boykin hug and kiss those people and extoll their virtues to a crowd. You would have him support perverts who want to use bathrooms with young children, and soon can do so by claiming they “identify” as the opposite sex of which they actually are. You know….the sex that GOD made them. You know sir….you are an employee of the devil, and when you face the Lord our God you will be punished, sent to hell for your foul misdeeds. You are too weak…too cosmopolitan, to do the things Lt Gen Boykin has. You would be the first to run in a fire fight, the first to sacrifice the lives of others around you to selfishly save yourself. You are reminiscent of those under adolf hitler, willing to lick his boot if it keeps you in favor with the ruling class. It’s because of men like Lt Gen Boykin that you can have the garbage “job” you have and push the homosexual, muslim agenda against the American people. You make me physically sick, you are a disgusting piece of trash. May your “foundation” flounder, may you find no peace, and may God have mercy on your soul when you stand before him. You are a disgrace to yourself, your family lineage, and every red blooded American who doesn’t share your neo-political, flim flam man opinion of so called “civil rights”. You should apologize to Lt Gen Boykin, to the American people, then resign your position and shut down your worthless, ignorant “organization”. Bad day to you sir, may you fail at all you do!

(name withheld)


How do you feel about George W Bush?  Would you say he was a patriot? A defender of the American way?

Blake A. Page
Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Special Assistant to the President
Director of US Army Affairs


Mr Page,
     My paternal grandfather, a wonderful man, was a backwoods, southern lawyer…but sharp as a tack. The kinda guy you never saw coming….until he beat you in court. He always told me two things. Never ask a question in court that you don’t know the answer to, and never answer a question in a debate if you dont know why it is asked. I would assume the reason that you are asking about President Bush is one of the ambush variety, asked to gain higher ground. Are you one of those military people who is proud that the army is “going green” or proud that you can now be “openly gay” in the military? Do you know how disgusting you and your ilk are? So dead set on removing God from our military. Why sir? Why do you hate God and christianity so much? You know what I bet Mr Page? I bet if Lt Gen Boykin was a muslim……you would have never said one word in protest. If my comments make you mad…..its only because you know in whats left of your soul, that I am right, and you already feel ashamed. Reverse you position, be a true American, do the right thing. Apologize to Lt Gen Boykin and move forward.

(name withheld)


Nobody here at MRFF hates any god or gods.  Our military is meant to defend a pluralistic society, not a force of Christian crusaders.

The reason I mention Bush, is because he was generally considered a good Christian nationalist.  And yet, Mr. Boykin was so far off base in his views and remarks that he earned himself direct condemnation and a forced retirement from President Bush.

Boykin speaking to our soldiers would be akin to having Sadam Hussein speak to our soldiers after a warm invitation.  Boykin wants a military that fights for his religion above all others. And that is patently un-American.

Do you recognize how disgusting you are for supporting such filth? Could you put in even the slightest cognitive effort, and stop shredding the true ideals of our country as it was founded with your dark twisted ideology of Christian Supremacy?  I’m grateful to know that in your heart you already carry the burden of shame for your ignorance and disdain for people unlike yourself. I just hope that one day that shame becomes stronger than your sad allegiance to the bane of civilization which is blind nationalism.

-Blake


Mr Page,
     So off base yourself sir. Think for a moment about how ignorant your comments are. You sound like an old boss I had once. He thought that there could be no laws based on religion in the United States. That sir, is pure ignorance. The constitution explicitly mentions God, and the 5th amendment was meant to protect us from a state religion, like catholicism had been in Europe. Not to completely and totally remove God from all aspects of our government. “In god we trust”…..no “room for interpretation” there. I carry no shame, unlike weak kneed cosmopolitans such as yourself, I stand on rock solid principles I will forever fight for. My convictions are not shifted by the winds of pop culture. “Shredding the true ideals of my country”? Oh you mean like trying to destroy free speech? Religious freedom? Some people are so behind in the race that they actually think they are winning. I wonder what type of America you envision? One where anything goes……so long as it doesn’t offend certain people. “Christian Crusaders”? So to you….if a man or woman is Christian, fights for our military, and speaks and witnesses to their fellow soldiers….they are a crusader? Funny how that works. And you never did answer my question about muslims sir? If Lt Gen Boykin was extolling the virtues of islam, would you lift your voice? And I think I will forward your comparison of Lt Gen Boykin to SADAM HUSSEIN to every veteran organization, special forces veteran groups, and VFW in this wonderful if degrading country. How dare you make such a dastardly comment ,and you should be ashamed of yourself for such an outlandish statement. What did Lt Gen Boykin say that made Bush scared to stand up? That muslims worship a false idol? Once again sir, you show your ignorance of Christianity. God tells us….in the TEN COMMANDMENTS…”thou shall not have any gods above me”, “thou shall not worship false idols”….cant you understand that? Christians…..true, bible believing Christians do not believe that Muhammed was a prophet, that allah is God. We believe muslims worship a false idol. And Donald Rumsfeld defended the Lt Gen. You are starting down a dark path that many an atheist has blazed. I leave you with the words of your compatriot…Voltaire on his deathbed..”I am abandoned by God and man….i shall die and go to hell”. Even with as much as I disagree with you….I would never want to see you go to hell. Give this serious thought, life is short, dont waste it on wordly things. Remember that with morality comes peace, peace that only true and sound principles can provide.
(name withheld)

Dear (name withheld)

The only place the constitution might conceivably mention any god is in use of the common vernacular of the time “the year of our lord”.  The 5th amendment has nothing to do with religion, but rather self incrimination. Our nation’s motto at its founding was not “In God We Trust.” It was “E Pluribus Unum” (epitomizing the belief that the country was intended to be a home to people of many nations, many creeds and religions).
Moral dandies like yourself that have such a weak foundation of character, seem to only be able to find solace in using the force of government to bolster their religion. How big could your god be if it needs a government to defend it?  Of course people of faith can serve our country honorably and with distinction. However, as you seem too feeble to understand, there is a chasmic, totally unnuianced difference between serving our country while having faith and serving our country with the aim of declaring conquest over others in the name of that faith.
I did answer your question about a Muslim with similar views to Mr. Boykin. In a not so subtle analogy, I compared the foolishness of inviting Jerry to speak to the hypothetical of inviting Sadam Hussein to speak. Of course having a jihadist speak to our troops would be as foul as having a crusader. Neither view points are compatible with true American values.  President Bush wasn’t scared to stand up to Mr. Boykin. He did stand up to him, and he made it clear that it was a strike against the core of American values to declare that the United States government was a Christian country washing a crusade in the name of religion, against a religion.

Your theological considerations are immaterial in a discussion on the topic of civics. Please do try to stay focused if you can muster the strength of mind to do so.

-Blake


Well ill give you some credit,

        I did misspeak in reference to the 5th amendment, I was instead referring to the 1st amendment. My apologies. You are trying to punish Lt Gen Boykin for his religious beliefs, thats simple and clear. And as I told your colleague Mr Weinstein….you need a history lesson sir, especially in regards to the United States Constitution. God is mentioned clearly…”endowed by their creator” in the Declaration of Independence as well. Listen, we can debate theology all day, and with your boundless ignorance…you will lose. At the end of the day, you are wrong. Point blank. You want religion to be what it suits you to be, you want “everybody to just get along”. However life is not that eloquent. There are many many people out there who wish to destroy our way of life, and you sir, are one of those people. And how do I or my God, use government to “bolster my religion”? If someone like yourself doesn’t agree with Lt Gen Boykins message….dont go attend. If you, or your brethren were giving a speech, I would most definitely find that offensive…..therefore I would not attend. I would not however attempt to muzzle you, or shut you up, because I believe that no matter how stupid, or ignorant or rambling your ideology may be….you have a right to say it. Men have died to give you that right. No one, not even a polished, self absorbed “intellectual” such as yourself can take that away. Sadam Hussein wasn’t a lone jihadist sir, he was the dictator of a country, who had babies and elderly people killed, along with gassing entire towns and villages, killing millions. To compare the honorable Lieutenant General to Sadam is so horribly ignorant. It’s obvious you suffer from a liberal upbringing, liberal “university” education, and a very low IQ, and your ridiculous statements just further prove it. Theological arguments dont have a place in civics? Really? I know this is new to you….but you do understand that a huge portion of our laws come from the Ten Commandments right? This is becoming comical. And if you have studied enough to understand what happened to Lt Gen Boykin in regards to Bush, then you understand the kind of pressure President Bush was under at that time from people like you in the liberal media. And the majority of Americans agreed with every word Lt Gen Boykin said. Now I saved this for last….because this was the best….”a strike against the core of American values to declare that the United States government was a Christian country…”. Sir are you familiar with the term majority? Let me give you an example: Lets say you have a car that is 71% black….the hood, doors, trunk, quarter panels, all black. And lets say you had some damage to the bumpers of said car. So you had those replaced with yellow bumpers. Would you say that car is yellow? Or green or blue or pink? No! You would call it a black car. America is 71% Christian….(catch your breath, I know you hate that)….therefore it is a Christian nation built on Christian values. Despise 239 years of history if you want….but you cant erase it. And America doesn’t punish people of other faiths, no, the only people who are punished in this country are Christians, mocked and ridiculed at every turn. Heck, Lt Gen Jerry Boykin was fired, re-hired, set to give a speech and then told it was cancelled and he would not be asked back, just because hes a Christian.

(name withheld)


Oh dear misinformed (name withheld) ,

Up until now I’ve been messaging you on odd breaks during my busy schedule as a small business owner.  Now that I’m free, I can address you with more clarity.  You may have trouble sitting after this spanking, and there’s no shame in crying either.  From here in I will provide counterpoints to your rambling note in chronological order.  That said, it will lack the structure of formal writing that I’ve come to appreciate over the years, only out of necessity of following your scattered thoughts.  With no further ado-

We are not punishing Mr. Boykin.  He’s a civilian.  He’s a civilian who even a (quite conservative, quite Christian) President of the United States of America has openly declared has a message which is anti-American.  He’s a civilian that we have no power to punish.  

What authority do you think we have as an advocacy group?  I love posing this question because it truly stymies those who don’t fully grasp (or willfully ignore) the interplay between non-government organizations (NGOs), bureaucracies and the civilian leaders of government.  As an NGO we have literally ZERO authority to make decisions on the policies or day to day function of any government bureaucracy (of which the United States military is one).  I hope you haven’t passed out yet, as I’m sure you’re straining from the pit of your gut to comprehend what you’re reading.  If you’re still there…our role (‘our’ meaning the role of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation) in this field of play is to advocate for the changes or actions that we believe will make our country stronger.  Other NGOs, like Boykin’s Focus on the Family for example, play the same exact role (albeit that example has starkly contrasting views, it is no less a part of the democratic system, just far less effective at its mission).  NGOs advocate, we do not and cannot dictate.  So why then my friend was Mr. Boykin in fact disinvited from speaking?  This may be an unsettling moment for you, so take a break, drink water if you must.  Mr. Boykin was disinvited by the military leadership at Ft. Riley because the military leadership recognized that Mr. Boykin is a problem.  If we weren’t on the right side of history and the right side of the law, they would not have acquiesced to our insistence.  The military doesn’t have to do anything we say.  Every victory we achieve outside the court system (which is basically all of our victories) comes by the same means.  We (again as an NGO) serve the purpose of giving a figurative megaphone to the ideals of our clients in their defense.  When leaders in our military receive that message, they then decide on the best course of action in accordance with the strictures of the bureaucracy they serve within.  That’s basic civics.  Learn it.

The Declaration of Independence does say “endowed by their creator”.  And that would be helpful to your argument if the Declaration of Independence were a legal document produced and ratified under an existent United States Government.  But it was not.  It was produced prior to the foundation of our country as codified by our Constitution.  Meaning while it is a part of our cultural heritage, it is not a legal document, and is inadmissible as evidence that our (again, emphasis for your hypoxiated grey matter) GOVERNMENT is meant as an exclusively Christian body.  We can debate this point all day long, but in the end…you’re wrong.  Point blank. 

I don’t personally want religion to be anything.  I don’t care what religion is or does, so long as it exists and does what it does in a way that does not cause harm.  In a way that doesn’t disabuse others.  Yes, I would like the members of the world’s religions to “just get along” as would any sane human being that believes peace is a greater condition than war.  The world is not that simple today.  And it hasn’t been in the past.  However the human species is young.  Civilization is younger.  To imagine that it is impossible to have peace is a self-defeating prophecy laid down by shortsighted mythycists with a bloodlust who salivate at the thought of Jesus wielding an AR-15 (please do research that allusion). To answer your question: ” how do I or my God, use government to ‘bolster my religion’?”: Mr. Boykin explicitly used his rank (which is a government position, subordinate to his own biases) to promote his deluded beliefs about the United States being a literal crusading force for Christianity.  You have been adamantly defending that action, and that has been the sole point of contention throughout our entire dialogue thus far.  If you are defending Mr. Boykin, you support the use of our United States government to bolster your United States of Christendom.

  

You say that if we were to intend to give a speech, you would not intercede as we have with Jerry.  And?  There is a sharp distinction between the mission of MRFF and the mission of Jerry Boykin.  We seek to support a United States which is truly a nation, Out of Many, One.  We fight on the right side of history, and do so within the bounds of the law as it stands.  Your gesture is cute, and I’m glad you want to offer an olive branch after setting the tone for this conversation in such a foul way.

I got my liberal upbringing in the deep south of Georgia with a strong conservative family.  I received my liberal “university” education at the United States Military Academy at West Point (you’re right, it wasn’t really a university).  And my low IQ is just shy of 150 the last I checked.  But who’s counting (certainly not you past 10).

Now this next part just has me by my sides with mirth.  “…a huge portion of our laws come from the Ten Commandments…”  You must be some special sort of slap happy straight jacket stupid to lay that claim in a serious conversation.  

1st Commandment: No other gods before me

1st Amendment: You can have whatever god or gods you want

2nd Commandment: No graven images

1st Amendment: Free speech/free press, make whatever images you want

3rd commandment: Don’t take the lord’s name in vain

1st Amendmet: Freedom of speech, take whatever name in vain you want

–skipping ahead a few because there’s no point in mentioning that US Law doesn’t care about working on sundays or honoring parents–

6th Commandment: Thou shalt not kill

US Law: bomb the pants off of any threat, and don’t kill anyone in our borders.  If you think not killing your neighbor is an exclusively Christian value, you are a truly rare gem in the spectrum of pig-ignorant.

Our entire economy is based on coveting.  And while lying is outlawed under oath, it’s perfectly acceptable in our day to day dealings with eachother.  For an example, I could type the words “I think (name withheld)  is a swell guy and well informed” without being arrested.

Needless to say.  There’s no genuine argument to support your claim that your 10 commandments are the foundation of our system of law.  

Nearing the final stretch here.  

Am I familiar with the term majority?  Why yes my deviant detractor, I am.  Are you familiar with the term “tyranny of the majority”?  If the population of a country were 99.99% atheist would the government be just in demanding that it’s people throw away their faith?  NO!  Absolutely not.  We don’t count heads before enforcing the First Amendment.  We don’t call for a vote to see whether or not we should revoke the rights to property, or the right to a speedy and fair public trial.  It absolutely doesn’t matter how many people are Christian inside the borders of the United States.  Our government is a government of all people.  A government of Christians, Jews, atheists, Ba’hai, Buddhists, and so many more.  Our government was not designed to serve you more than me.  You can take your wreck of a car and wreck of an analogy and drive yourself to the nearest library.  Christians are not being punished.  Some of them are being mocked and ridiculed, as we are wholly free to do.  

Lastly, Boykin was never re-hired by our government.  He was re-hired by a civilian institution.  He deserves mockery.  He deserves condemnation.  He has his freedom to be an ass.  We wouldn’t dare infringe on it, lest he breach the boundaries of the law.  Then, as an NGO, we would use the resources at our disposal within the structures of the democratic society we find ourselves in to assert that our views are stronger than his.  (spoiler alert, we will win in the future too).

Blake


Dear (name withheld),

The only place the constitution might conceivably mention any god is in use of the common vernacular of the time “the year of our lord”.  The 5th amendment has nothing to do with religion, but rather self incrimination. Our nation’s motto at its founding was not “In God We Trust.” It was “E Pluribus Unum” (epitomizing the belief that the country was intended to be a home to people of many nations, many creeds and religions).
Moral dandies like yourself that have such a weak foundation of character, seem to only be able to find solace in using the force of government to bolster their religion. How big could your god be if it needs a government to defend it?  Of course people of faith can serve our country honorably and with distinction. However, as you seem too feeble to understand, there is a chasmic, totally unnuianced difference between serving our country while having faith and serving our country with the aim of declaring conquest over others in the name of that faith.
I did answer your question about a Muslim with similar views to Mr. Boykin. In a not so subtle analogy, I compared the foolishness of inviting Jerry to speak to the hypothetical of inviting Sadam Hussein to speak. Of course having a jihadist speak to our troops would be as foul as having a crusader. Neither view points are compatible with true American values.  President Bush wasn’t scared to stand up to Mr. Boykin. He did stand up to him, and he made it clear that it was a strike against the core of American values to declare that the United States government was a Christian country washing a crusade in the name of religion, against a religion.

Your theological considerations are immaterial in a discussion on the topic of civics. Please do try to stay focused if you can muster the strength of mind to do so.

-Blake


 

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3 Comments

  1. John White

    This is a copy of my Email to Mickey boy. It will be forwarding it to Major General Wayne W. Grigsby and to Lieutenant General William G. “Jerry” Boykin (Ret.)

    FYI foul mouthed Mickey boy. I posted this on your website.

    In addition to my comment above, I called Mickey boy on his cell phone. 505-250-7727 When he answered he asked who am and how did I get his personal cell phone number. I told him that he had published it in the Emails he had set to Maj. Gen. Wayne W. Grigsby Commander at Fort Riley, Kansas. Mickey boy started telling me about his great organization and how he was protecting our military from bad Christians like Lieutenant General William G. “Jerry” Boykin (Ret.). When he finally stopped talking for a second, I asked him to tell me what he had against General Boykin. Rather than answer my question, he started another rant this time full of profanity. When he stopped again, I asked him what he thought about the First Amendment and freedom of speech. He advised me he was at a family gathering. I asked him, “If your with your family, why are you using such language?” He then started again with another rant filled with profanity and threatened to get in my face. After all that, he said I had ten seconds to ask a question. As I started, he interrupted with more expletives and hung up on me.

    Only a coward makes a long distance threat and then hangs up the phone.

    I now have an informed personal opinion of Mickey boy. He is self-centered, delusional, foul mouthed, hypocritical, despicable little person who is a disgrace to himself, his family and to the religion he professes to follow. He is a detriment to all those in the military who chose to practice their religion, particularly Christians.

    After this very informative phone call, I decided to call another phone number published by Mickey boy. The one for the Chief Public Affairs NCO, 1st Infantry Division, Fort Riley, KS., MSG Mike Lavigne.

    This phone call was refreshingly different. I spoke with an articulate and courteous gentleman. We discussed the chain of events and how the present unfortunate situation occurred.

    In my considered opinion, if in the military’s eyes it was a “mistake” to invite Lieutenant General William G. “Jerry” Boykin (Ret.) to speak at the prayer breakfast in the first place, I strongly feel it was compounding the mistake to “reschedule” and look for another speaker. This has only served to make it look bad for the command. A commitment was not honored and a senior retired officer was not allowed to speak as a private citizen to an attendance optional gathering.

    Mickey boy sticking his nose in and taking credit for discrediting General Boykin just made a bad situation worse.

    ——————————————————————————–

    From: John White
    Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 8:33 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Cc: [email protected]
    Subject: Fort Riley prayer breakfast

    First of all I do not usually make my thoughts known to the likes of you. In this case, I shall.

    I have researched your military and personal record. Thank you for that service you performed as a communications officer and a JAG from behind a desk. I am sure you made a real difference. By the way, why you have taken so much effort to keep your Rank at separation from the military such a secrete? I wonder if in you ten years, did you even made First Lieutenant?

    Regarding your involvement in MRFF, in light of your and your organization’s past record, I charge you are a fraud and the worst kind of hypocrite.

    While I have the highest regard for Israel, the Israelis and Jewish people as a whole, there are those that are radicalized just like there at radicalized zealots in every part of society. In that you profess to be a Jew, I think you are radicalized and worst example Judaism has to offer. You are an embarrassment to humanity and religion as a whole.

    Based on my research regarding Lieutenant General William G. “Jerry” Boykin (Ret.), his military and personal record is a testament to a real American. He is an Officer, a gentleman and a man of his faith and convictions. He obviously is not a “politically correct” person. I think that is just great. He has the courage to speak his mind and doesn’t use profanity. If more Americans were like him, our Country would be a far better and safer place to live.

    Whether I totally agree with General Boykin’s positions or not, I would far rather listen to him speak his mind than to read the poison pen Emails you and your bigoted coconspirators, Pedro Luis Irigonegaray, Chris Rodda and those mislead people you claim to be part of your sleazy organization.

    You, Sir, are not fit to clean General Boykin’s combat boots.

    I’ll bet you don’t have the guts to answer a real American.

  2. Connie

    Letter writer got
    Spanked; flounces as bottom is
    Sore. Those are the facts.

    Critical thinking
    Is not the letter writers
    Strength. Thoughts are hard man!

    Boykin the traitor
    Deserves all my derision;
    Constitution First!

  3. Terry Swift

    What a TOTAL LOSER of an organization! You DO NOT represent me and millions of other soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines of the US Military!

    Your arguments are so much bull-s#!t that you ought to be a Politician, which you probably were at one time but people saw thru your stupidity and didn’t elect / re-elect you – I SURE WOULD NOT.

    You’re just one of those I’M OFFENDED types when God – the real one, not some stone, metal, or other man made idol – is used by those of us WHO DO BELIEVE. That is OUR RIGHT just like yours NOT TO. I don’t force my religion on you, so don’t force yours on me – yes, Atheism / Agnosticism IS a religion,

    Go back to the hole in the ground you came from so that us TRUE PROTECTORS OF FREEDOM can continue to do our job UNHINDERED by MORONS like you and your stupid ass organization. You DO NOT represent me, nor would I ever want some SHAM Group like yours to ever do so.

    Your choice to not want to hear the name of God or those gods of man made origin like yours is YOUR BUSINESS and that alone. Don’t want to hear it – then do like Christians and many other religions people do everyday – walk away, turn it off, don’t watch it, or whatever it takes that you are NOT SO EASILY OFFENDED. Man, your momma raised a real pussy of a man. Can only imagine you were the type that got bullied and thrown into trash cans all your life, being such a WIMP. I was a very small person most of my life and when it came time to be bullied – I stood my ground – so those who thought they could do whatever to me found out to pick on someone else. Obviously you did not know your gender or whether you are a real man or not – so you fight against those of us who PROUDLY SERVED our Nation for 4+ years or more. I served 20 years, can your sorry excuse for a human being say the same. You self-professed liberators are a total disgrace to all of us who have and continue to serve to provide you the very FREEDOM to chose God / god / or nothing.

    Take your WHINY ASS Show to the Middle East and see how that works out for you butt heads. I’ll be watching to see you on the Nightly News being raped and then having your heads cut off; because those people don’t have Special Rules for whiny assed Americans.

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