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You people  are about as religious as a swastika. I  believe you religious beliefs and values and your main mission from what I  can tell is to deride religious expression because  you are a Socialist group. You clowns along with the National organization of stupid women. I  see no reasonable excuse to have the airforce take down a poster that has been there this long. It’ s leftist commies like your self that pollute this country. I wish you would  try and force me to take down a religious symbol anything related  to my faith. Never thought this great nation would ever have to deal with pathetic organizations like yours. Frankly when it comes to religion,  nobody is going to tell me when,  where or how I  should  pray either. Have a nice day commies.

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member John Compere

Dear (name withheld),

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation represents approximately 50,000 loyal & patriotic military members, veterans & civilians working for the military who have requested that their US Constitution freedom from government promoted & imposed religion be respected & protected. 96% are Christians. We proudly serve them to insure they are not denied this historic American individual liberty.
 
Attached is a rational explanation in plain language of the factual, historical & lawful relationship between between our Constitution, the military & any religion. We hope you find it informative.
 
It is my experience that those who resort to nasty name-calling do so because they are unable to address adult subject matter in any mature or meaningful manner. Such boorish behavior only reflects on them and not on the recipients of their malevolent mutterings.
 
Most Sincerely,
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American veteran (Vietnam)
MRFF Advisory Board Member
Texas rancher

OUR CONSTITUTION, THE MILITARY & ANY RELIGION

 

The military mission is to defend our nation against its enemies – not promote a religion. The sworn military service oath is to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States…and bear true faith and allegiance to the same” – not to any religion or its writings. The Constitution prohibits our secular government or its representatives (which includes the military) from promoting religion.

 

Military service, funding and pay are public whereas religion is private. Military personnel may privately practice a religion or no religion, but they may not lawfully use their military service, office or position to publicly promote private religious beliefs or impose them on other military members. This problem seldom rises when military leaders demonstrate intelligence, integrity and loyalty to the mission, oath and regulations.

 

Those who disrespect, disregard or deny our Constitution, their sworn service oath and military regulations subject themselves to disciplinary action. Additionally, a basic Constitution class and briefing on the legal significance of their sworn oath need to be mandatory. Those who choose not to support and defend our Constitution, honor their sworn oath or follow military regulations have the right to seek a career in the civilian sector for private pay.

 

The Constitution (1st Amendment) provides 3 basic religious liberties, respectively, for Americans:

 

  1. Freedom from religion – our secular government is prevented from “respecting ” an establishment of religion (promoting, supporting, favoring or endorsing any religion). It is our right to be free from religion imposed by the government or its representatives;

 

  1. Freedom of religion – our secular government is prevented from “prohibiting” free exercise of religion. It is our right to privately practice any religion or no religion provided it does not violate the rights of others. It does not include the right of the government or its representatives to impose religion on us; and

 

  1. Freedom to speak about religion – our secular government is prevented from “abridging” freedom of speech. It is our right to speak publicly about religion provided it does not violate the rights of others. It does not include the right of the government or its representatives to impose religious speech on us.

 

There should be no misunderstanding of the operative verbs in these first three clauses of the 1st Amendment. All one has to do is first read them and then read the definitions of “respecting ”, “prohibiting ” or “abridging ” in any American dictionary.

 

Historic separation of church and state is a fundamental liberty of free people that keeps private religion out of public government and public government out of private religion. It was clearly the intent of our Founders as confirmed by the Constitution, indisputably documented by 3 centuries of public records, acknowledged publicly by every American President since Thomas Jefferson, continuously confirmed by our courts, and permanently embedded in the established law of our land. The Constitution pointedly provides “no religious test ” shall ever be required as a qualification to any public office or public trust (Article VI). It is also significant to note there were no public prayers during the 116 days of the 1787 Constitutional Convention. These are self-evident American truths history deniers and religious revisionists intentionally ignore and deceitfully disregard.

 

Simply stated, we Americans have the right to our own religious or non-religious beliefs, but we must respect the right of others to determine and enjoy their beliefs (common sense clue – the same right we cherish for ourselves). This is timeless universal wisdom predating institutional religion known as the “GOLDEN RULE” and later preached by Jesus in every New Testament version (Matthew 7:12; Luke 6:31). The self-righteous obsession of radicalized religionists to publicly force their private religious beliefs on others without extending them this basic human liberty exhibits the height of hypocrisy, rejects all moral teaching and creates continuous conflict.

 

Unfortunately, the wisdom of the late American humorist Will Rogers still applies  – “There is no argument in the world that carries the hatred that a religious belief one does.” (The Best of Will Rogers, Bryan Sterling, M. Evans & Company, 1979, page 193).

 

Founder and 3rd President Thomas Jefferson publicly penned the classic confirmation – “Believing…religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God…legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion’…thus building a wall of separation between church and state.” (Jefferson Papers, Library of Congress, January 1, 1802).

 

The late Republican President Ronald Reagan publicly acknowledged this critical Constitutional liberty in a public speech – “We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate.” (Valley Stream, New York, October 26, 1984).

 

Christian evangelist Billy Graham publicly praised constitutional separation of church and state in a sermon – “We enjoy the separation of church and state and no sectarian religion has ever been and we pray God, ever will be imposed upon us.(Washington National Cathedral, 1985).

 

John Compere

Brigadier General, Judge Advocate General’s Corps, US Army (Retired); former Chief Judge, US Army Court of Military Review; disabled American veteran (Vietnam); Military Religious Freedom Foundation Advisory Board Member; and Texas rancher.


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

Dear (name withheld),

We tend to hear a lot from loud-mouths, wise guys, frightened fundamentalists and other pea-brains who can’t spell and are unacquainted with syntax, but it’s been a long time since I’ve run across one betraying such markedly antedeluvian blatherings. Do they still have meetings of Troglodytes Anonymous at your church? Do you get to sit in your rockers and snort, spit, chew your cud and mewl and puke over ‘stupid women’ and ‘commies’? It must be such a rockin’ good time.

Send an announcement about the next one. I’d love to have a picture.

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)

 


Response by MRFF Advisory Board Member Joan Slish

Dear (name withheld),
I would like to know the church you attend and its email address so that I can forward this on to him/her.
 
If you were in my church many years ago and I became aware of this email, I would question your salvation and counsel you.
 
Ephesians 1:13 teaches us that if we don’t have the Holy Spirit we don’t have Christ.
 
“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise.”
 
You obviously lack the Fruit of the Spirit that is mentioned in Galatians 5:22-23 and are not sealed.
 
“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”
 
You have none of these and therefore the Holy Spirit does not dwell in you.
 
Jesus told us to pray for our enemies but your carnal nature can’t allow you to do that. Instead, you fire off this missive without any knowledge of how our organization works.
 
He also told us to” love our neighbors as yourself.”
 
Why do you hate yourself? Do you call yourself a socialist, clown, stupid and a leftist commie?
 
Are you married and have a daughter? Do you call them stupid?”
 
If you’re not in the military, we’re not going to tell you when, where or how you should pray. In fact, I encourage it because the first thing you need to do is ask forgiveness for this email or you will be held accountable for it.
 
“But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:36-37
 
“Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless.” James 1:26.
 
Do you see that? You are worthless.
 
“from what I  can tell is to deride religious expression because  you are a Socialist group.”
 
From what you can tell or from what you’ve read or heard?
 
Contrary to what you may have been told we are neither an atheist organization nor are we anti-Christian. Mikey is Jewish (and prays to the same Father we do 3 times a day) and 80% of the Board, Advisory Board, volunteers and supporters (330 in total) of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) are Christians. In fact, 96% of our 50,000+ soldier clients are mainline Christians and we fight for them more than any other belief or non-belief.
 
Check out our mission statement to know us better.
 
Check out the honorable and distinguished military personnel whom we rely on for their expertise on religious neutrality in the military:
 
Do a little research on an organization before you fire off an imbecilic email like this instead of being fed lies.
 
Your faux Christian piety and ad hominem attacks are worthless and headed for the garage dump.
 
Joan Slish
MRFF Advisory Board Member

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 Comment

  1. Tom O

    ” I see no reasonable excuse to have the airforce take down a poster that has been there this long.” Apparently, the Air force DID see a reason. I recently sent this email to the AF ACC public affairs office, specifically requesting a response. I never received one, and the posters were removed shortly after that. I suspect that’s because they couldn’t explain why they didn’t want to even consider this compromise, and thus showed us what their real motivation was.
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    I’ve read that the Military Religious Freedom Foundation is demanding the removal from your headquarters of some posters. The MRFF contends that the posters send messages that female AF members are inferior to males and that religious faith is necessary to be a good airman, but you want to continue displaying them because they’re “historical documents.”
    To resolve this conflict, I suggest the following compromise: before reading it, take a moment to focus your attention inward, and notice what your first emotional reaction is when you read it.

    Add a sign clarifying that the posters are “historical documents” illustrating how different the AF was in 1955, and including the following:
    the specific percentage of AF personnel who were women in 1955, the specific percentage of AF personnel who are women now, and an explanation that the posters suggest that the AF in 1955 felt that only its male members were important to its mission;
    how the Cold War mentality was used to make Americans feel that lack of religious faith was equivalent to insufficient patriotic opposition to the evil godless communists;
    an explanation that the posters illustrate how today’s AF is so much more committed to gender equality and the freedom to follow any religion, or NO religion, than it was in 1955.

    Your response to this suggestion will show what the real motivation for displaying these posters is: illustrating history, or promoting sexism and pushing religion.

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