You people are about as religious as a swastika. I believe you religious beliefs and values and your main mission from what I can tell is to deride religious expression because you are a Socialist group. You clowns along with the National organization of stupid women. I see no reasonable excuse to have the airforce take down a poster that has been there this long. It’ s leftist commies like your self that pollute this country. I wish you would try and force me to take down a religious symbol anything related to my faith. Never thought this great nation would ever have to deal with pathetic organizations like yours. Frankly when it comes to religion, nobody is going to tell me when, where or how I should pray either. Have a nice day commies.
Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member John Compere
Dear (name withheld),
OUR CONSTITUTION, THE MILITARY & ANY RELIGION
The military mission is to defend our nation against its enemies – not promote a religion. The sworn military service oath is to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States…and bear true faith and allegiance to the same” – not to any religion or its writings. The Constitution prohibits our secular government or its representatives (which includes the military) from promoting religion.
Military service, funding and pay are public whereas religion is private. Military personnel may privately practice a religion or no religion, but they may not lawfully use their military service, office or position to publicly promote private religious beliefs or impose them on other military members. This problem seldom rises when military leaders demonstrate intelligence, integrity and loyalty to the mission, oath and regulations.
Those who disrespect, disregard or deny our Constitution, their sworn service oath and military regulations subject themselves to disciplinary action. Additionally, a basic Constitution class and briefing on the legal significance of their sworn oath need to be mandatory. Those who choose not to support and defend our Constitution, honor their sworn oath or follow military regulations have the right to seek a career in the civilian sector for private pay.
The Constitution (1st Amendment) provides 3 basic religious liberties, respectively, for Americans:
- Freedom from religion – our secular government is prevented from “respecting ” an establishment of religion (promoting, supporting, favoring or endorsing any religion). It is our right to be free from religion imposed by the government or its representatives;
- Freedom of religion – our secular government is prevented from “prohibiting” free exercise of religion. It is our right to privately practice any religion or no religion provided it does not violate the rights of others. It does not include the right of the government or its representatives to impose religion on us; and
- Freedom to speak about religion – our secular government is prevented from “abridging” freedom of speech. It is our right to speak publicly about religion provided it does not violate the rights of others. It does not include the right of the government or its representatives to impose religious speech on us.
There should be no misunderstanding of the operative verbs in these first three clauses of the 1st Amendment. All one has to do is first read them and then read the definitions of “respecting ”, “prohibiting ” or “abridging ” in any American dictionary.
Historic separation of church and state is a fundamental liberty of free people that keeps private religion out of public government and public government out of private religion. It was clearly the intent of our Founders as confirmed by the Constitution, indisputably documented by 3 centuries of public records, acknowledged publicly by every American President since Thomas Jefferson, continuously confirmed by our courts, and permanently embedded in the established law of our land. The Constitution pointedly provides “no religious test ” shall ever be required as a qualification to any public office or public trust (Article VI). It is also significant to note there were no public prayers during the 116 days of the 1787 Constitutional Convention. These are self-evident American truths history deniers and religious revisionists intentionally ignore and deceitfully disregard.
Simply stated, we Americans have the right to our own religious or non-religious beliefs, but we must respect the right of others to determine and enjoy their beliefs (common sense clue – the same right we cherish for ourselves). This is timeless universal wisdom predating institutional religion known as the “GOLDEN RULE” and later preached by Jesus in every New Testament version (Matthew 7:12; Luke 6:31). The self-righteous obsession of radicalized religionists to publicly force their private religious beliefs on others without extending them this basic human liberty exhibits the height of hypocrisy, rejects all moral teaching and creates continuous conflict.
Unfortunately, the wisdom of the late American humorist Will Rogers still applies – “There is no argument in the world that carries the hatred that a religious belief one does.” (The Best of Will Rogers, Bryan Sterling, M. Evans & Company, 1979, page 193).
Founder and 3rd President Thomas Jefferson publicly penned the classic confirmation – “Believing…religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God…legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion’…thus building a wall of separation between church and state.” (Jefferson Papers, Library of Congress, January 1, 1802).
The late Republican President Ronald Reagan publicly acknowledged this critical Constitutional liberty in a public speech – “We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate.” (Valley Stream, New York, October 26, 1984).
Christian evangelist Billy Graham publicly praised constitutional separation of church and state in a sermon – “We enjoy the separation of church and state and no sectarian religion has ever been and we pray God, ever will be imposed upon us.” – (Washington National Cathedral, 1985).
Brigadier General, Judge Advocate General’s Corps, US Army (Retired); former Chief Judge, US Army Court of Military Review; disabled American veteran (Vietnam); Military Religious Freedom Foundation Advisory Board Member; and Texas rancher.
Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
Dear (name withheld),
We tend to hear a lot from loud-mouths, wise guys, frightened fundamentalists and other pea-brains who can’t spell and are unacquainted with syntax, but it’s been a long time since I’ve run across one betraying such markedly antedeluvian blatherings. Do they still have meetings of Troglodytes Anonymous at your church? Do you get to sit in your rockers and snort, spit, chew your cud and mewl and puke over ‘stupid women’ and ‘commies’? It must be such a rockin’ good time.
Send an announcement about the next one. I’d love to have a picture.
(MRFF Board of Advisors)
Response by MRFF Advisory Board Member Joan Slish