Religious FREEDOM!

Mikey Weinstein,
It’s too damn bad you weren’t born in Warsaw, Poland in 1930. Then maybe Adolf Hitler & his Henchmen could have dealt with you the way you deserve to be dealt with today! I PRAY to OUR/MY GOD that you go the way of Madelyn Murray O’Hare! She HAD the same perverted outlook you have now. She’s in a very special place in Hell! Your special place is waiting for you!
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member John Compere, Brigadier General, US Army (Retired)
Dear (name withheld),
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation represents over 50,000 military members, veterans & civilians (96% of whom are Christians) who have requested that their American constitutional right to determine, enjoy & practice their own religious or non-religious beliefs be respected & protected. Our Christian clients do not want someone else’s version of Christianity imposed upon them. Our non-Christian clients do not want any version of Christianity force upon them. All object to being publicly proselytized with another’s religious beliefs in the government work place. We proudly represent them to insure this precious American liberty of theirs (yours, ours & all Americans) is respected & protected.
 
Your subject is “Religious FREEDOM”. I do not know your legal training or qualifications but your understanding of religious freedom under the US Constitution appears erroneous. Attached is a rational explanation in plain language of the factual, historical & lawful relationship between our Constitution, the military & any religion. Hopefully, you find it informative.
 
As a fellow retired military veteran who was born, raised & educated as a Christian, I know & appreciate that Christianity is just a branch off the ancient tree of Judaism, Jesus & his disciples were Jewish, the biblical authors were Jewish and there would be no Christianity without the Jewish faith, people & culture. Christianity taught me God created all human being equal in the image of God & it was very good (Genesis 1:27&31). Christianity also taught me the 2nd greatest Commandment is to love one’s neighbor (Mark 12:31, Luke 10:27).
 
Your hate-filled version of Christianity is something I can neither comprehend nor condone. It is a sad commentary on our humanity when someone like you believes in and boasts of such hatred for fellow Americans. I hope you will thoughtfully reconsider.
 
Most Sincerely,
John Compere
Brigadier General, US Army (Retired)
MRFF Advisory Board Member

OUR CONSTITUTION, THE MILITARY & ANY RELIGION

The military mission is to defend our nation against its enemies – not promote a religion. The sworn military service oath is to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States…and bear true faith and allegiance to the same” – not any religion or its writings. The Constitution prohibits our secular government or its representatives (which includes the military) from promoting a OUR CONSTITUTION, THE MILITARY & ANY RELIGION

religion.

 

Military service and pay are public whereas religion is private. Military personnel may privately practice a religion or no religion, but they may not lawfully use their military service or position to publicly promote private religious beliefs or impose them on other military members. This problem seldom arises when military leaders demonstrate intelligence, integrity and loyalty to the mission, oath, military regulations and Constitution.

 

Those who disrespect and disregard our Constitution, their sworn service oath and military regulations subject themselves to disciplinary action. Additionally, a basic Constitution class and legal briefing on the significance of their sworn oath need to be mandatory. Those who choose not to support and defend our Constitution, honor their sworn oath or follow military regulations have the right to seek a career in the civilian sector for private pay.

 

The Constitution (1st Amendment) provides 3 basic religious liberties, respectively, for all Americans:

 

  1. Freedom from public religion – our secular government is prevented from “respecting ” an establishment of religion (promoting, supporting, favoring or endorsing any religion). It is our right to be free from religion imposed by the government or its representatives;

 

  1. Freedom of private religion – our secular government is prevented from “prohibiting” free exercise of religion. It is our right to privately practice any religion (or no religion) provided it does not violate the rights of others. It does not include the right of the government or its representatives to impose religion on us; and

 

  1. Freedom to speak about religion – our secular government is prevented from “abridging” freedom of speech. It is our right to speak publicly about religion provided it does not violate the rights of others. It does not include the right of the government or its representatives to impose religious speech on us.

 

There should be no misunderstanding of the operative verbs in these first three clauses of the 1st Amendment. All one has to do is first read them and then read the definitions of “respecting ”, “prohibiting ” or “abridging ” in any American dictionary.

 

Historic separation of church and state is a fundamental liberty of free people that keeps private religion out of public government and public government out of private religion. It is clearly the intent of our Founders as confirmed by the Constitution, indisputably documented by 3 centuries of public records, acknowledged publicly by every American President, continuously confirmed by our judiciary, and permanently embedded in the established law of our land. The Constitution pointedly provides “no religious test ” shall ever be required as a qualification to any public office or public trust (Article VI). It is also significant that there were no public prayers during the 116 days of the 1787 Constitutional Convention. These are self-evident American truths history deniers and religious revisionists intentionally ignore and dishonestly disavow.

 

Simply stated, we Americans have the right to our own religious or non-religious beliefs, but we must respect the right of others to determine and enjoy their beliefs (common sense clue – the same right we cherish for ourselves). This is timeless universal wisdom predating institutional religion, known as the “GOLDEN RULE” and reportedly preached by Jesus in every New Testament version (Matthew 7:12; Luke 6:31). The self-righteous obsession of radicalized religionists to publicly force their private religious beliefs on others without extending them this basic human liberty exhibits the height of hypocrisy, rejects all moral teaching and creates continuous conflict.

 

Unfortunately, the observation of the late American humorist Will Rogers is still applicable today – “There is no argument in the world that carries the hatred that a religious belief one does.” (The Best of Will Rogers, Bryan Sterling, M. Evans & Company, 1979, page 193).

 

Founder and 3rd President Thomas Jefferson publicly penned the classic confirmation – “Believing…religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God…legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion’…thus building a wall of separation between church and state.” (Jefferson Papers, Library of Congress, January 1, 1802).

 

The late Republican President Ronald Reagan publicly acknowledged this critical Constitutional liberty in a public speech – “We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate.” (Valley Stream, New York, October 26, 1984).

 

Christian evangelist Billy Graham publicly praised constitutional separation of church and state in a sermon – “We enjoy the separation of church and state and no sectarian religion has ever been and we pray God, ever will be imposed upon us.(Washington National Cathedral, 1985).

 

John Compere

Brigadier General, Judge Advocate General’s Corps, US Army (Retired); former Chief Judge, US Army Court of Military Review; disabled American veteran (Vietnam); Military Religious Freedom Foundation Advisory Board Member; and Texas rancher.


Response from MRFF Supporter

Hello (name withheld),

Are you aware that fear is something that you learn to feel?  it is taught to you or created by you at a very early age around 10-12 months and on via your imagination or others imaginations.  I am curious as to why you take such offense to Mikey Weinstein and the MRFF?  I can only assume at this point, because I don’t know you, that he somehow violates your views and beliefs, whatever they maybe.  It seems to me, however,  that your views and beliefs are very much aligned with Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany or violent offenders released on parole that kidnap, rape and murder…based on your recent email to Mikey. (posted below)

It’s too damn bad you weren’t born in Warsaw, Poland in 1930. Then maybe Adolf Hitler & his Henchmen could have dealt with you the way you deserve to be dealt with today! I PRAY to OUR/MY GOD that you go the way of Madelyn Murray O’Hare! She HAD the same perverted outlook you have now. She’s in a very special place in Hell! Your special place is waiting for you!

So you would wish murder and mutilation on someone because they don’t believe what you do?  Are you angry because your faith is waning and that the majority is a bit more open minded rather than adhering to your sheltered ideas?  I don’t know what your beliefs are but it seems to me that there is little difference between people like you, wishing death upon others, and the radical muslims promising death upon non believers.  Do you even realize how similar you all are, brandishing violence in the name of… your god?  I know a little bit about a bunch of different religions but it seems that radical is just… Radical. You “radicals” are bullies who are so insecure with your own views and beliefs that you must force them on others because as long as a majority of you are together via choice or force or manipulation at least you won’t be alone no matter what the circumstance.  Oh and god forbid you are wrong or that your religion is just an idea that doesn’t really adhere to the laws of physics that actually govern the cosmos. That maybe your beliefs are just an idea that lasted too long? Your “religion” or beliefs only thrive if someone opposes you and it’s extremely sad that your insecurities pour out of you in such vile and disgusting verbiage.  You will unfortunately never be ashamed because you are so self righteous you think you are on the other side of disgusting. Are you so angry and scared because the Mrff is making more headway among brighter minds than yourself, under the laws of the United States of America, so that all people are actually equal? I don’t know what happens when we die and I am happy to admit to those terms because why chose to live in fear if I don’t have too… it seems that you are very much afraid of a lot of things. 

Just assuming here but I figured you might be a christian (insert emojis here) and I would just like you too read 105 words of you actually believe.

The beliefs that a walking dead Jewish deity who was his own faer although he always existed, commits suicide by cop, although he didn’t really die, in order to give himself permission not to send you to an eternal place of torture that he created for you, but instead make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, drinks his blood and telepathically promise him you accept him as your master, so he can cleanse you of an evil force that is present in man kind because a rib-woman and a mud-man were convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

(name withheld), if you are staking your eternity in this, I guess i should expect nothing less or anything from you or people like you… again… 

I prefer to remain anonymous to this psycho but this is my response… maybe you have ways of sending it to this vile piece of shit. What an idiot. 

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Joan Slish

Dear( name withheld) (Jeep?),

 

Wow! Not only did you type your words in all caps (which comes across as screaming) but in black bold letters for extra effect.  Aren’t you special!

 

You do know that no one goes to hell until the final Judgment at the seat of Christ? Check out Matthew 25:31-46 and see for yourself.

 

To further your biblical knowledge read all of Romans 11. Here’s the part that deals with Mikey:

 

Romans 11:25-29

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.

 

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

 

As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.

For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.”
 

You sound just like Hitler. Did you know that Hitler professed to being a Christian and had the help of Christian churches to rise to power? Did you know that he used the anti-Semitic writings of Martin Luther to justify the killing of the Jews? Of course you didn’t you illiterate, religious bigot!

In Mein Kampf  Hitler wrote:

“I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jews, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.”

Mikey lost many family members in the Holocaust and some survivors gave testimony to Steven Spielberg for his movie Schindler’s List.

To wish that Mikey was alive during the Holocaust in order to be exterminated, makes you a despicable person and of the same mindset as Hitler.

“But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.”  Matthew 12:36-37

Good luck explaining this email to Jesus at His Judgment Seat, who was born, raised, preached and died a Jew, because it looks like you are the one that will be condemned.

Before you spewed this hatred you should have checked our Mission Statement instead of falling for the lies that you have read or heard. https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/about/our-mission/

You also should have checked out our Board and Advisory Board Members which include many honorable and distinguished military personnel whom we rely on for their expertise on religion in the military. https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/about/foundation-voices/

If you were in my church when I was actively preaching, I would have called you in for counseling because you are a poor example of a Christian.

Joan Slish (retired Pastor)

MRFF Advisory Board Member

 


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

 

Hey (name withheld),

Have you been to hell to visit Ms. Ohair? Your message hints at something of a fear-based persecution complex that seems epidemic with some pretend Christians.

I recently had a discussion with a Christian minister about the kind of zealotry we at the MRFF experience from people like you. He said “No Christian is a bigot.” I responded by asking “If that is true then isn’t it just as true that no bigot is a Christian?” He said, “Yes it is, exactly.”

You might want to think about that.

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)


 

Dear Joan,

 

FREEDOM

 

*Not caps! “Stencil Font.” It always looks Bold!  And you used  .. “TIMES NEW ROMAN.”  Quite apropos! And yes I am Special! Been around a long time! Paid my dues in spades! Still paying today. Been through two (2) Wars. Vietnam era & Desert Shield/Desert Storm!

 *So why is Hell so full up already? And is Hitler still sitting on the bench waiting? And Oh Yea & Mikey’s not gonna’ like the verdict! 

 *So why did he ban Christian Religion, close churches, deport Priests to Death Camps, Beat them, Torture them, Murder them & Cremate them in the ovens?

 * And did you know that the Pope (Pius) helped the Nazi’s get out of Germany after the War? Not good! Not good at all! 

 *Wow! Hit a nerve there didn’t I?

 *The ONLY God in Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945 was Adolf Hitler! He would have use Donald John Trump as a scape goat had he been alive & influential at that time! He just wanted to turn all Non-Jewish citizens against the Jews!  And, did anything Hitler ever say have any truth to it, other than he would destroy every Jew in occupied Europe? And didn’t he blame the German people for losing the War he started & state that they got what they deserved?  

*Yet he want’s to remove all religious participation from OUR military Services! Judaism included!  And if it weren’t for all those Judeo-Christian Sailors, Marines, Army, Air Corps Services members fighting against the Anti-Religious Nazis, your Deity Mikey wouldn’t be here now! Nor would you or your misguided followers! That is unless you became a member of “The Party!”

*No I didn’t wish it, I just stated that … “it’s too damn bad he wasn’t born in Warsaw.” And no I don’t have “the mindset of a Hitler”, it just shows that people like me stand up against RADICAL groups like yours because I’ve seen what can happen when they gain momentum & turn religions against others. Hitler did just that! 

*Jesus knows where my heart is. He knows I’m on his side. I may not be the best Christian/Catholic, I may not be able to quote the Bible on command & I damn sure don’t go blindly into the Christian/Catholic religion, (there’s a lot that I question) but I do believe that our Service Men & women should have the RIGHT of religious Freedom if they so believe!  

 *Does the Bible lie? Does the Catholic/Lutheran/Methodist church lie? How about the Jewish Synagogues? Do they lie? That’s where I got “the lies I’ve read & heard!”

 

*And I would have attended your council & shamed you for your Anti-Religious rhetoric concerning our Military.

P.S. Have you ever watched the History &/or Military channel on T.V.? If you have, how many times have you see the decks of our World War Two Navy ships crowded with Marines, Sailors & Army Personnel having Mass on those decks just before they embarked that ship to board the landing craft to take them to that island where THEY KNEW DAMN WELL THAT THERE WAS A REAL CHANCE THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO RETURN TO THAT SHIP EXCEPT DEAD, ON A LITTER! How many of those men received Absolution for their sins & took Communion just before going over the side! Was that wrong then??? Why do you think it’s wrong now? 

“There are NO atheists in Fox Holes!” “There are NO atheists in a Submarine being Depth Charged!”  All those men cried out … “OH MY GOD!”

And they Still Will Today! Would you want to take that away from them?  GOD I Hope & Pray Not!!! 

P.P.S. Also, I went through twelve (12) & a half years of Baltimore Public School & every day at the beginning of the school day we said a prayer! The teacher always picked a student to read from the Bible. And read we did. (Even if it were just … “And Jesus Wept”) Did that injure us? Did that turn us into little Hitler’s? Did that Prayer turn us into little Mikey Weinstein’s? Did that simple little Prayer turn us into “Illiterate Religious Bigots”? My answer would be NO! Yours … Most likely quite different! Madelyn Murray O’Hare started a downward spiral in our decent society back then & our everyday lives begun to decay. Now your radical group wants to do the same thing, only instead of to the children, you want to poison our Military who need all the assistance, help & Prayer they can get! Yea, I get a bit radicalmyself when it comes to people like you & Mikey, but I’m a mirror & I reflect what comes to me! Come to me with love, respect, courtesy & understanding & I will reciprocate that love, respect, courtesy & understanding. But come to me with liberal, radical ideas & behavior, hate & disrespect for my views & you will receive the same! 

May God Bless you & Mr. Weinstein & may he also Forgive you two for your misguided ideas.

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Joan Slish

 

We are neither an atheist organization nor are we anti-Christian. Mikey is Jewish (and prays to the same Father we do 3 times a day) and 80% of the Board, Advisory Board, volunteers and supporters (300 in total) of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) are Christians. In fact, 96% of our 50,200+ soldier clients are mainline Christians and we fight for them more than any other belief or non-belief.
 
We also have liaisons on almost every base in the world and every incoming email and its response is immediately blasted out to them to be dispersed.
 
We are defenders of the Constitution (Separation of Church and State), Supreme Court rulings and the UCMJ.
 
The Treaty of Tripoli was signed at Tripoli on November 4, 1796.It was submitted to the Senate by President John Adams, receiving ratification unanimously from the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797, and signed by Adams, taking effect as the law of the land on June 10, 1797; a mere 8 years since our Constitution went into effect. If what was written was wrong in anyway, there would have been uproar. But, it passed unanimously and confirmed that America was not founded on Christianity.
 
Treaty of Tripoli: As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
 
“…but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” (Article I, III)
This means that from the President to Congress to the military – no one’s job is based on their religion.
 
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (Establishment Clause), or prohibiting the free exercise thereof (Free Exercise Clause).”(First Amendment)
 
The Establishment Clause means that you cannot favor one religion over another even though it is in the majority. This clause respects the rights of all religions. Our military is SECULAR and there are people of other faiths that don the uniform that love this country. 
 
The Free Exercise Clause (which is subservient to the Establishment Clause) means that our soldiers are free to exercise any religion they want or no religion at all but cannot elevate one God above others.
“Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.” Thomas Jefferson, to the Virginia Baptists (1808) ME 16:320. 
This is his second known use of the term “wall of separation,” here quoting his own use in the Danbury Baptist letter.
 
This wording of the original was several times upheld by the Supreme Court as an accurate description of the Establishment Clause.
 
“Jefferson’s concept of ‘separation of church and state’ first became a part of Establishment Clause jurisprudence in Reynolds v. U.S., 98 U.S. 145 (1878). In that case, the court examined the history of religious liberty in the US, determining that while the constitution guarantees religious freedom, “The word ‘religion’ is not defined in the Constitution. We must go elsewhere, therefore, to ascertain its meaning and nowhere more appropriately, we think, than to the history of the times in the midst of which the provision was adopted.” The court found that the leaders in advocating and formulating the constitutional guarantee of religious liberty were James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. Quoting the “separation” paragraph from Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists, the court concluded that, “coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment thus secured.
 
In 1878 “separation of church and state” became part of the Establishment Clause by law.
 
The Supreme Court heard the Lemon v. Kurtzman case in 1971 and ruled in favor of the Establishment Clause.
 
Subsequent to this decision, the Supreme Court has applied a three-pronged test to determine whether government action comports with the Establishment Clause, known as the Lemon Test:
 
Government action violates the Establishment Clause unless it: 
1. has a significant secular (i.e., non-religious) purpose, 
2. does not have the primary effect of advancing or inhibiting religion 
3. does not foster excessive entanglement between government and religion
 
Parker v. Levy
 “This Court has long recognized that the military is, by necessity, a specialized society separate from civilian society… While the members of the military are not excluded from the protection granted by the First Amendment, the different character of the military community and of the military mission requires a different application of those protections. … The fundamental necessity for obedience, and the consequent necessity for imposition of discipline, may render permissible within the military that which would be constitutionally impermissible outside it… Speech [in any form] that is protected in the civil population may nonetheless undermine the effectiveness of response to command.  If it does, it is constitutionally unprotected.” (Emphasis added) Parker v. Levy, 417 U.S. 733, 1974
 
To entangle the military with religion is a violation of the Constitution, Reynolds v. U.S., Lemon v. Kurtzman, the Lemon Test and Parker v. Levy.
 
And just in case you believe that that our country was founded on Christianity, here are some quotes from our Founding Fathers:
 
The historian, Robert Middlekauff, observed, “The idea that the Constitution expressed a moral view seems absurd. There were no genuine evangelicals in the Convention, and there were no heated declarations of Christian piety.” 
 
“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814
 
“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787
 
“History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
Thomas Jefferson: in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813
“The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”
John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” 1787-1788
“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789
“The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
James Madison, 1819, Writings, 8:432, quoted from Gene Garman, “Essays In Addition to America’s Real Religion
“Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.” 
James Madison; Monopolies, Perpetuities, Corporations, Ecclesiastical Endowments
 
“God has appointed two kinds of government in the world, which are distinct in their nature, and ought never to be confounded together; one of which is called civil, the other ecclesiastical government.”
Isaac Backus, An Appeal to the Public for Religious Liberty, 1773
 
“During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution. What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not.”
James Madison 1785 Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments
 
“Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting “Jesus Christ,” so that it would read “A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;” the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.”
As Thomas Jefferson wrote in his Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
 
The military has to abide by the laws and regulations noted above, and if they did, we wouldn’t be having this fight.
Joan Slish

 

 

 

 

 

 


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1 Comment

  1. Hey, Stencil Font!

    Why should we accept Jesus when we can see what it’s done to you?

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