Don’t you have anything better to do…

I love how you try to make your organization sound so influential and patriotic. If you have to tell everyone you are… maybe it’s because you not.  But thanks for the laugh!

 

Disrespectfully and with malice and contempt,

(name withheld)


Response by MRFF Advisory Board Member Joan Slish

Dear (name withheld)

I am so sorry that you have been misled by lies, omissions and distortions concerning the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.

 

Fair warning: We have liaisons on almost every base in the world and all incoming emails and responses are sent out to them to be disseminated.

 

Mikey and MRFF are neither an atheist organization nor are we anti-Christian. Mikey is Jewish (and prays to the same Father we do 3 times a day) and 80% of the Board, Advisory Board, volunteers and supporters (415 in total) of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) are Christians. In fact, 96% of our 55,000+ soldier clients are mainline Christians and we fight for them more than any other belief or non-belief.

 

We also have many distinguished and honorable military members on our Board and Advisory Board whom we rely on for their expertise on religion in the military.

https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/about/foundation-voices/

 

Check out our Mission statement.

https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/about/our-mission/

 

The Bible on the Missing Man’s table has not always been there.

 

The American Legion was chartered and incorporated by Congress in 1919 as a patriotic veterans organization devoted to mutual helpfulness.

 

According to the American Legion’s official Chaplain’s Manual, the items to be included in a POW/MIA table display consist of:

 

Small table covered with a white table cloth
1 plate, fork, knife, spoon, and napkin set up on the table
1 glass inverted
1 chair placed at plate setting
Vase with a single rose in it and a red ribbon tied onto the vase
Slice of lemon on the plate and salt sprinkled onto the plate
White candle in a holder, lit at the beginning of the ceremony
POW/MIA flag draped over another chair in front of table
Folded American Flag on the table

 

The National League of Families of American Prisoners and Missing in Southeast Asia is an American 501(c)(3) non-profit organization that is concerned with the Vietnam War POW/MIA issue founded in 1967. It is this non-government entity that started placing the Bible on the table (which has wrongly been embraced) and changed it from one chair to six.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_League_of_POW/MIA_Families

 

 

Set for six, the empty chairs represent Americans who were or are missing from each of the services – Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard – and civilians, all with us in spirit.

Some here were very young, or not yet born, when the Vietnam War began; however, all Americans should never forget the brave men and women who answered our nation’s call and served the cause of freedom in a special way.

 

The table is round – to show our everlasting concern.

The cloth is white – symbolizing the purity of their motives when answering the call to serve.

 

The single red rose reminds us of the lives of these Americans….and their loved ones and friends who keep the faith, while seeking answers.

The yellow ribbon symbolizes our continued uncertainty, hope for their return and determination to account for them.

 

A slice of lemon reminds us of their bitter fate, captured and missing in a foreign land.

A pinch of salt symbolizes the tears of our missing and their families – who long for answers after decades of uncertainty.

The lighted candle reflects our hope for their return – alive or dead.

 

The Bible represents the strength gained through faith to sustain us and those lost from our country, founded as one nation under God.

The glass is inverted – to symbolize their inability to share a toast.

The chairs are empty – they are missing…………….. (moment of silence)

https://www.pow-miafamilies.org/missing-man-table-and-honors-ceremony1.html

 

Outside of the fact the Bible was not there in the beginning, there are laws and military regulations concerning the Separation of Church and State that must be followed.

 

The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.

James Madison, letter objecting to the use of government land for churches, 1803.

 

“Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.”

Thomas Jefferson, to the Virginia Baptists (1808) ME 16:320

 

This is his second known use of the term “wall of separation,” here quoting his own use in the Danbury Baptist letter.

This wording of the original was several times upheld by the Supreme Court as an accurate description of the Establishment Clause.

 

“Jefferson’s concept of “separation of church and state” first became a part of Establishment Clause jurisprudence in Reynolds v. U.S., 98 U.S. 145 (1878). In that case, the court examined the history of religious liberty in the US, determining that while the constitution guarantees religious freedom, “The word ‘religion’ is not defined in the Constitution. We must go elsewhere, therefore, to ascertain its meaning and nowhere more appropriately, we think, than to the history of the times in the midst of which the provision was adopted.” The court found that the leaders in advocating and formulating the constitutional guarantee of religious liberty were James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. Quoting the “separation” paragraph from Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists, the court concluded that, “coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment thus secured.

 

In 1878 “separation of church and state” became part of the Establishment Clause by law.

 

The Supreme Court heard the Lemon v. Kurtzman case in 1971 and ruled in favor of the Establishment Clause.

Subsequent to this decision, the Supreme Court has applied a three-pronged test to determine whether government action comports with the Establishment Clause, known as the Lemon Test:

 

Government action violates the Establishment Clause unless it:
1. has a significant secular (i.e., non-religious) purpose,
2. does not have the primary effect of advancing or inhibiting religion
3. does not foster excessive entanglement between government and religion

 

Parker v. Levy:

“This Court has long recognized that the military is, by necessity, a specialized society separate from civilian society… While the members of the military are not excluded from the protection granted by the First Amendment, the different character of the military community and of the military mission requires a different application of those protections. … The fundamental necessity for obedience, and the consequent necessity for imposition of discipline, may render permissible within the military that which would be constitutionally impermissible outside it… Speech [in any form] that is protected in the civil population may nonetheless undermine the effectiveness of response to command.  If it does, it is constitutionally unprotected.” (Emphasis added) Parker v. Levy, 417 U.S. 733, 1974

 

AFI (Air Force Instruction) 1-1, Section 2.12:

2.12. Balance of Free Exercise of Religion and Establishment Clause. Leaders at all levels must balance constitutional protections for their own free exercise of religion, including individual expressions of religious beliefs, and the constitutional prohibition against governmental establishment of religion. They must ensure their words and actions cannot reasonably be construed to be officially endorsing or disapproving of, or extending preferential treatment for any faith, belief, or absence of belief.

 

To place the Christian God above all others is in violation of The Separation of Church and State codified in the Constitution (1878), Reynolds v. U.S., Lemon v. Kurtzman, the Lemon Test, Parker v. Levy and AFI 1-1, Section 2.12

 

I have attached the complaint filed on behalf of MRFF by our Attorney Donald J. Rehkopf, Jr. that has more information for your perusal.

 

The Department of Defense thinks Mikey is patriotic:

 

Mikey Weinstein Named to List of 100 Most Influential People in U.S. Defense: MRFF President and Founder, Mikey Weinstein is named to the inaugural 100 Most Influential People in U.S. Defense on December 17, 2012.  This list was compiled over five months by more than two dozen reporters and editors representing the world’s biggest military newsroom and the award-winning staffs of Gannett Government Media’s sector-leading publications: Defense News, Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times, Marine Corps Times, Armed Forces Journal and Federal Times. Inclusion in this list is based on an individuals’ personal influence, not just the power that comes with their office.   One individual on the list explains the concept of personal influence as “…making change, it’s not just celebrity.”

 

The laugh is on you.

 

Joan Slish

MRFF Advisory Board Member

 


Response by MRFF Advisory Board Member John Compere

Dear (name withheld)

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is a non-profit constitutional rights organization dedicated solely to ensuring our military men & women receive the constitutional right of religious freedom to which all Americans are entitled. MRFF represents 55,000 military members, veterans & civilian employees (96% of whom are Christian) who have requested its assistance. MRFF proudly & patriotically advocates for them. For this advocacy, MRFF has been officially nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize 7 times, including 2 nominations in 2010.
 
It is not a laughing matter to your fellow Americans who have requested MRFF assistance in protecting their 1st Amendment right to freedom of their religion & freedom from someone else’s religion. The American Constitution that provides our historic trinity of religious liberties (freedom from religion, freedom of religion & freedom of religious speech) is not a laughing matter to loyal Americans.
 
In truth & reality, your disrespect, malice & contempt is directed at our American Constitution & your fellow Americans serving the nation’s military who recognize & request their constitutional right to religious liberty. Surely you have something better to do!
 
Most Sincerely,
John Compere
Brigadier General, US Army (Retired), Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam), Military Religious Freedom Foundation Advisory Board Member

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 Comments

  1. Calif Anon

    https://capmin.org/resources/ministry-updates/bbc-story-on-capitol-ministries-quickly-reaches-1-million/

    Looks like Ralph Drollinger of Capital Ministries is getting better press than Mikey. I wonder how much Mikey had to pay all those news services to publish his pitiful little story about a bible on a POW/MIA table?

    May the Word of God continue to be taught in our nations capital as well as every state capital and government capitals around the world!

  2. Grey One talks sass

    Theocrats Unite!

    Amirite Calif Anon?

    Since you are doing some wishful thinking I thought I would do a bit too.

    In my future, the theocrats have annoyed the rest of everyone so much that religion is banished from the public square. All holiday displays are removed from government buildings because theocrats refuse to share.

    When anyone swears an oath they base it on the constitution, not a bible or their deity. And all of the fresh air and new attitudes manifest because theocrats refuse to honor anyone who doesn’t worship exactly as they say.

    My vision can be avoided if theocrats learn to follow the rules.

    Bwahahahaaa!!!!

    Who am I kidding? Theocrats don’t share – 2000 years of history tells us that fact.

  3. G

    “May the Word of God continue to be taught in our nations capital as well as every state capital and government capitals around the world.”

    Sorry, but that is not going to happen in countries like India, China, and Japan that have many different religions or in countries that are predominately Muslims, or in European countries where church attendance have done down considerably.

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