Your hypocrisy

From: (name withheld)
Subject: Your hypocrisy
Date: May 7, 2019 at 11:18:21 AM MDT

 

 
Your organization and the people that support you ARE NOT CHRISTIAN  and are a disgrace to the uniform. You TOOK AN OATH TO DEFEND AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION  THAT INCLUDES THE 1ST AMENDMENT. If someone was a Jew and a prisoner and kept their bible for support them through a trying time and was put there as encouragement to others that there is hope and help for them then fine – we hav 22 a day committing suicide everyday cause they can’t get help from the VA IF THIS DISPLAY IS THAT ONE THING THAT GIVES THAT VET HOPE AND STOPS HIM/HER FROM COMMITTING SUICIDE THEN LEAVE IT ALONE…. BUT THEN YOU DON’T GET PAID OR PUBLICITY DO YOU FOR YOUR CAUSE TO SILENCE CHRISTIANITY AND HOPE FOR VETS…. BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION DON’T CARE ABOUT VETS JUST YOUR OWN POCKETS … that mr.esq makes you a disgrace to the uniform… if you were in the Sr. Enlisted or Officer Corp you was not a leader you was a rank holder out for yourself… these lawsuits prove that… it seems Christianity is sued constantly and expected to compromise their beliefs no others religion or ideology is attacked in this country as much as Christianity and Christians and if you can’t see that then you are blind and a liar…  .. i.e. cake bakers not wanting to bake a gay wedding cake, calligrapher not wanting to make gay wedding invitations,  a Presbyterian church not wanting to marry gay couple and esq types like you sue, esq types like sue to remove little memorials on side of the road where someone’s loved was killed by a drunk driver because it has a cross on it etc. etc.. .. and the liberals and dems in this celebrate in these attacks.. the person(s) that came to you about this display was either coerced into doing the lawsuit by some butt hurt atheist/anti-Christian, /anti-Trump idiot or by YOU to make money. I can tell a liar when when I hear and I know when someone is blowing smoke up my rear.. so don’t try that with me.  I believe because of what I see on your website you are fake and making it appear your military supporting.. I don’t believe you. A TRUE CHRISTIAN AND MILITARY VETERAN WOULD NOT BE DOING THIS UNLESS THEY WERE ACTUALLY ATHEIST THUS THE ATTACK ON CHRISTIANITY.. I don’t believe you are that uninformed or blind to what is happening to Christians in this country and around the world. ESPECIALLY IF YOU CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIAN YOURSELF.. of which of course I didn’t hear you claim that beyond your military claims and anyone these days can claim that and expect people to believe them.. I don’t until I have proof.. like the congressman that claimed Vietnam Veteran status and NEVER SET FOOT IN COUNTRY.
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member John Compere
On May 7, 2019, at 1:43 PM, John Compere  wrote:

 

(name withheld),
 
What is wrong with evangelical Christians putting their religion scripture version in the middle of non-religious POW/MIA remembrance dinner table displays to publicly promote their private religious beliefs?
 
It is wrong (& illegal) because it (1) disobeys the US Constitution, US Armed Forces regulations & American law, (2) distorts the original non-religious purpose of POW/MIA remembrance by promoting their private religious scripture version, (3) distracts from non-religious POW/MIA remembrance by promoting religious beliefs not shared by all POWs, MIAs, military members & Americans, (4) disregards common dinner table settings that do not include religious scripture, & (5) disrespects millions of American military & civilians who are not evangelical Christians.
 
Please reflect on these words of wisdom from an American President & Commander-in-Chief
 
“We were founded as a nation of openness to people of all beliefs. And so we must remain. Our very unity has been strengthened by our pluralism. We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are and must remain separate. All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not…” – RONALD REAGAN (public speech, Valley Stream, New York, October 26, 1984).
 
Most Sincerely,
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Advisory Board member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (composed of over 80% Christians)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
On May 7, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Mike  wrote:

Dear (name withheld),

Your tirade makes me tired. It’s going to be difficult to go through this screed and correct your misstatements, clarify your incorrect assumptions and generally set you straight. So let me start by saying I don’t appreciate your attitude and I’m not sure your raving is worth my time, but I do think it’s important that these incessant, ignorant attacks are shown to be as baseless as they are.

1) About 95% of those who are part of or are involved with and/or associated with the MRFF are in fact Christians. You’re wrong and your statement is stupid.

2) No one here, whether active military, retired or vet, is a disgrace to the uniform. You are a cad and a liar for making such a claim.

3) Yes, those of us who served took an oath to defend the constitution and we are doing just that. The 1st Amendment, which you capitalize as though you understand it, is exactly what we defend in refusing to allow one religion to be promoted or favored over another by our government and those acting in its name.

4) People are welcome to their beliefs and are welcome to practice them. Government institutions cannot and should not promote any one belief system over all the others. A religious artifact of one belief system does not and cannot represent all of the beliefs of those in our military and a government-connected institution cannot pretend that it does. To do so violates the 1st Amendment you were screaming about a line or two ago.

5) We all agree that vet suicides are a terrible tragedy. Caring, medicines and therapies are needed to deal with what is a horrifying national problem. To pretend that placing a religious artifact on a POW/MIA display will somehow magically solve that problem is nonsensical to the point of near-criminal insanity.

6) Now we get to your actual point. You are pathetic. And, CONTRARY TO YOUR ASININE ASSERTION, THE MRFF IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ANY “CAUSE TO SILENCE CHRISTIANITY.’ You and any other Christian so needful of martrydom to prove the legitimacy of your belief system are simply pathetic. Also, contrary to your loud assertion, the MRFF is not interested in publicity and is not making money from its work to help protect the freedom of religion of the women and men in the military.

7) Your following litany of examples of the horrors suffered by you and other faux-Christians who disguise their personal fears with a zealous charade of being sufferers for Christianity is a sick parody of real faith and one of which you ought to be ashamed.

8) Atheism, like any other belief system, is one some people choose. While those associated with the MRFF are over 95% Christian, we do not judge anyone based on what she or he believes. Unfortunately, that makes us a target for bigoted zealots like you.

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)


On Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 6:31:52 PM CDT,  (name withheld)  wrote:
Again General you have missed the point of the meaning of it but then not many generals I have known or met have been on the front line throwing lead down range they always send others to do that and they always demand respect whether they have earned it or not and always have acted like they are better than than the men they order around… they don’t always understand the foot soldier or would understand what the display is saying or means to them…with or without the bible.. it is too far over some people’s head because they always think they know more than others… if this offends you then you are one of the types I speak of… one the the bigwigs that don’t want or willingly to understand what is in the mind of the soldier they are only out to get that next rank or to figure out how to justify getting that next medal they didn’t earn and denying a medal to a soldier that earned one but was downed to a medal that was two or more levels below what they should have gotten… I have seen it happen too many times with my own eyes so don’t tell me it doesn’t or didn’t happen… officer ranks are all political… and that makes you and this organization even more a bunch of hypocrites and if you can’t understand or see that then maybe you people need to get off your pedestals and find out the reality of a soldiers life and the need of the soldiers seeking help from from following you generals orders and bring told by you generals and all officer ranks below them and senior enlisted to suck it up…if a bible on a table is enough if a symbol if hope that will save the life of one of our veterans then leave it alone and a bunch your high and might undies and let these find the help and hope they need… doing what your organization is doing with these clients is snuffing out the 1st Amendment and shows you don’t care about your soldiers just the limelight you can put yourselves into again after retirement… to me that is a disgrace to the uniform the service your oath and to our veterans seeking and sign for direction to heal… you ARE NOT HELPING THEM YOU ARE MAKING THEIR HEALING HARDER AND POTENTIALLY PUTTING IN A STATE TO BECOMING ONE OF THE 22 A DAY…

But then I guess you don’t care about that do you?
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member John Compere
On May 8, 2019, at 7:40 AM, John Compere  wrote:


(name withheld),
 
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation opposes evangelical Christians putting their religious scripture version in the middle of non-religious POW/MIA remembrance displays to publicly proselytize their private religious beliefs for the following reasons –
 
It is wrong (& illegal) because it (1) disobeys the US Constitution, US Armed Forces regulations & American law, (2) distorts the original non-religious purpose of POW/MIA remembrance by promoting their private religious scripture version, (3) distracts from non-religious POW/MIA remembrance by promoting religious beliefs not shared by all POWs, MIAs, military members & civilians, (4) disregards common dinner table settings that do not have religious scripture in the middle of them, & (5) disrespects millions of military & civilian Americans who are not evangelical Christians.
 
“Forced worship stinks in God’s nostrils.” – Roger Williams (American clergy, colony founder & revolutionary)
 
“God enters by private door into every individual.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson (American essayist)
 
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Advisory Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (80% of whom are Christians)

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