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Does your group also assault Jews in the military for wearing their yamakas?  How about Muslims members for wearing RELIGIOUS head coverings?  How about the Sikh members who get to wear their RELIGIOUS headgear?  I suspect you will cow tow and equivocate for those groups.  I have yet to see a Christian member who has an issue with those items but I suspect your group’s bigotry is limited towards one group alone for daring to expose their faith in any way.  Which is telling.  Reminds me of a dude once named Saul before he stopped his hateful wanton killing of followers of Christ.

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Founder and President Mikey Weinstein

Hey, brother, before you start throwing shit at people why don’t u do a little homework… You have all the facts wrong here… Seriously, you do, sport…You seem to be upset, little fella,… What is your problem?…Mikey Weinstein, founder and president, MRFF


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

On Jan 24, 2020, at 11:23 PM, Mike  wrote:

 

Hi No Name and probably fake address. Fake address means no courage, no name means what, no brain?
 
I really get tired of responding to attacks from people who operate in the shadows. Don’t you get tired of hiding? Isn’t it embarrassing?
 
Here’s the deal, though you don’t deserve my taking the time. We work in support of religious or non-religious freedom for all. We oppose no faith or belief system and we promote none. The legal doctrine of the separation of church and state simply means the U.S. Government in all its parts, which include the branches of the U.S. military, cannot favor or appear to favor one belief system over all the others.
 
It’s really that simple.
 
Your apparent concern that our military’s accommodation for and integration of headgear required by certain belief systems into their uniforms somehow shows preferential treatment not shown Christians is nonsense. There is no such thing as a Jesus hat.
 
Why so defensive? The Christian faith is clearly the largest belief system in the country. Despite the hysteria generated by fundamentalist zealots who have invented this crazy notion of a war on Christianity, yours is a popular and thriving belief system.
 
Enjoy it. And, by the way, you might try practicing it in the manner Jesus taught.
 
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)

Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere

On Jan 25, 2020, at 8:06 AM, John Compere  wrote:

For your information, American military men & women have the right to purchase & possess any religious or non-religious verses they want. However, a private commercial business cannot illegally profit off of them by misrepresenting & mismanufacturing its souvenir merchandise as official government issued military identification tags in violation of its own licensing agreement with the Department of Defense & applicable regulatory laws. That is why the unlawful practice was stopped by the military.
 
Your presumptuous & pompous piety is morally misdirected & would be more rationally redirected at those who disrespect & disregard their agreements & our laws rather than at those of us who respect & request compliance with them.
 
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (composed of over 80% Christians)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Martin France

On Jan 25, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Martin France  wrote:

Dear Mr (name withheld),

As an advisory board member for the MRFF, I occasionally answer emails like this for him–he receives tons of them!  First, thanks for not including any violent threats or profanity in your note–that’s out of the ordinary.  My answers to your questions are as follows:
First, we don’t ASSAULT anyone.  We advocate for the rights of all those in the military to believe as they choose and not be discriminated against for their private beliefs–even if they are not in synch with the beliefs of their superiors.  We at the MRFF don’t think that ANYONE in uniform, on-duty should visibly display ANY religious or anti-religious decoration, headwear, jewelry, tattoo, religiously justified beard–ANY SYMBOL–identifying, displaying, or advertising their beliefs.  Why?  Because one’s religious beliefs should be completely separate from performing one’s duty to the Constitution in the military.  They should no more have religiously identifiable paraphernalia displayed while on duty than they should have politically identifiable items (“Soldiers for Hillary” or “MAGA” buttons).
Some of us at the MRFF may disagree on another issue related to this, but I don’t think that military chaplains should actually be in uniform with rank.  I have no problem with the military making available religious counselors to those that serve–especially when deployed and only if ALL have access to counselors from compatible belief systems–but I do not think they should be part of the military rank hierarchy with implied (or real) rank superiority over those they counsel.
That Christians have no issue with a Sikh military member wearing a turban is irrelevant.  When one joins the military, they swear an oath to the Constitution.  That oath means that, while on duty, they should ALL adhere to the dress and grooming standards that ALL are subjected to–without exception.  If and when someone complains about some getting waivers based upon religious reasons, we’ll fight those waivers.
 
PS – And it’s “kowtow” not “cow tow,” which would imply bovine hauling of stalled tractors
 
Sincerely,
Marty France
Brigadier General, USAF (Retired)
MRFF Advisory Board Member

 

 

 

 

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