Military dog tags.

Dear Mikey,

I am sorry to tell you that many groups of people have came to this great United States for religious freedom. The Pilgrims were one of these many groups landing here in 1620 on the ship named “Mayflower.” Quakers, Presbyterian and many other denominations founded most of the early towns.

It was accepted and expected that ALL people have faith in the one God–the Creator; his Son, Jesus Christ; and the Holy Spirit.

Yes, Mikey the founders of our government, from George Washington, to Benjamin Franklin, to the other men who signed our Declaration of Independence were Christian men.

They wanted separation of church and state so that the people were free to worship the Lord as they believed in their own heart and not as the government would force them to do. Such as the case of Queen Mary that re-instated the Catholic faith from the Protestant faith in England when many, many people were executed.

Mikey, I am so very sorry for you. I understand you have no hope and can not pray. Because you see, you must believe in a God to be able to pray. Yes Mikey you have no hope, because you think that when you die you just cease to exist. For you there is no heaven. But on the other side you are happy because there is no hell either.

Suppose, just suppose, you are wrong and there is a heaven and a hell. Suppose there is a God and an enemy of God known as Satan. What will you do supposing this to be true?

Please do not stop our military from having the Bible verses next to their heart as they die for our country.

I ask you what or how is this hurting you for them to have this on their dog tags? You are not there dying. You are not there fighting for your life and breath to uphold our constitution and the freedom of worship in our great nation.

Mikey, there are many people who are atheist just like yourself. Why stand in the way of the freedom for those who believe in a God? You have your freedom to believe the way you do. Why not let them have this freedom?

This I know is a Fact. There is a God because he has shown himself to me. I have had many, many miracles in my life where he personally made himself known to me.

I am not here to convert you. But I will only say the Lord loves you and wants you to know him, because he sees you and everything you do. He even knows the thoughts in your mind and the intentions of your heart.

In the 1960’s a woman, who was an atheist like yourself, Madalyn Murry O’Hara, stopped prayer in schools. So sad that our rights as Christians to pray were taken away. Perhaps, if we had the prayer and 10 commandments in our schools, children would have morals and respect; instead of the anger, hatred, and lawlessness that is rocking our society today. They are long longer chewing gum, but killing their classmates. Where is the glory for you in this?

And, Mikey, where is the glory for you in not letting that military man or woman read the Bible verse on their dog tag when the see the emblem of their branch of service they so proudly represent with their faith in God, as they read for the last moment of their life. Just to clutch it in their hands, brings peace and a since of pride knowing they are dying for our country.

Very truly yours,

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell

On Feb 21, 2020, at 1:53 AM, Mike  wrote:

 

DEAR (name withheld),

 
THANKS FOR THE HISTORY LESSON, BUT YOU LEFT OUT A FEW THINGS.
 
“It was accepted and expected that ALL people have faith in the one God–the Creator; his Son, Jesus Christ; and the Holy Spirit. ” REALLY? ALL OF THEM? WHAT ABOUT THE FOLKS WHO WERE ALREADY HERE?
 
“Yes, Mikey the founders of our government, from George Washington, to Benjamin Franklin, to the other men who signed our Declaration of Independence were Christian men.” REALLY? ALL OF THEM? WHAT ABOUT THE DEISTS AND THE ATHEISTS AMONG THEM? AND WHAT ABOUT THE GOOD CHRISTIAN MEN WHO WERE SLAVE OWNERS?
 
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, NO? GOOD CHRISTIANS WHO OWNED HUMAN BEINGS, BEAT THEM WHEN THEY “NEEDED IT”, RAPED THEM WHEN THEY FELT LIKE IT.
 
ONE WOULD THINK THAT WOULD HELP CHRISTIANS WHO LOOK BACK ON THAT TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT’S POSSIBLE TO CONSIDER ONESELF A GOOD CHRISTIAN YET HOLD SOME BELIEFS THAT MAY PROVE ON FULLER CONSIDERATION TO BE FALSE.
 
DEAR DEAR (name withheld), YOU APPEAR TO ACTUALLY KNOW MUCH LESS THAN YOU PRETEND TO KNOW, BUT WE’RE USED TO THAT. WE GET LOTS OF MAIL FROM THE SANCTIMONIOUS.
 
MIKEY HAS “NO HOPE”? MIKEY IS FULL OF HOPE. HE HOPES PEOPLE WHO PROFESS TO BE BELIEVERS WILL ACTUALLY BEHAVE IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THE TEACHINGS OF THEIR FAITH. YET HE FINDS SO MANY WHO FALL INTO THE TRAP OF ASSUMING RECTITUDE WHILE CONDEMNING WHAT THEY WRONGLY PERCEIVE AS THE FAILINGS OF OTHERS.
 
MIKEY “CAN NOT PRAY”? MIKEY DOES NOT BELIEVE IN GOD? HOW DO YOU PRESUME TO KNOW SUCH THINGS? THEY’RE NOT TRUE. MIGHT IT BE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN MISLED IN YOUR BELIEFS ABOUT MIKEY. MIGHT IT BE THAT YOU’VE TAKEN THE WORD OF SOME “GOOD CHRISTIAN” WHO SPOUTS LIES?
 
HOW EMBARRASSING IT WOULD BE IF YOU WERE TO COME TO THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOUR PRESUMED SUPERIORITY, THE LOFTY POSTURING YOU EVINCE, ALL OF WHICH REEKS OF SELF-ANOINTMENT, WAS CHIMERICAL?
 
PERHAPS THEN YOU, (name withheld), WHO CLAIMS GOD HAS EITHER “SHOWN HIMSELF” TO YOU OR “MADE HIMSELF KNOWN” TO YOU, MIGHT BE MOVED TO ASK THIS GOD WHO NEXT APPEARS TO YOU JUST HOW IT IS THAT YOU COULD HAVE BEEN SO TERRIBLY, TERRIBLY WRONG.
 
 
PS – WE DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WANTING BIBLE VERSES ON THEIR FACSIMILE DOG-TAGS. THEY CAN HAVE AND WEAR AS MANY AS THEY’D LIKE. THEY JUST CAN’T HAVE THE OFFICIAL EMBLEM OF A BRANCH OF THE MILITARY ON THE DOB-TAGS BECAUSE THAT VIOLATES THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
 
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)

Dear Mkey,

Let me pick apart line upon line for you.

1. The People already here did believe in “A Great White Spirit.” The Native American believed in a higher power.

2. Yes, Mikey, ALL of them. Do your research in the life of them each one and I promise you will find a thread of God in their life and home. Perhaps by prayer, church, or spouse. Are you 100% positive there were Deists and Atheists among them? (Be very careful, because only God can see the true heart of a man).

3.There have been slave owners since the time of Genesis. Sad, but true.. They were not only African, but slaves of ALL nationalities. The Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, etc. had slaves. Yes, slavery should make everyone weep. But not all owners mistreated their slaves. Some were decent to them. (When slavery ended each slave had to give a last name for record. Those slaves who liked their owners took on the family name; while those that did not like their owners choose other names. Some slaves took the prominent names of people’s families such as Washington and Jefferson.- This information was given to me by a black historian who is a very dear friend to me.)

4. I am sorry you want to insult my intelligence. I do not insult your intelligence.

5. Atheist, which you claim to be, is defined in Webster’s Dictionary as “A person who does not believe in God.”  Since an Atheist has no God to pray to, he can not pray; or he lies to himself. Christians are not perfect people. I am sorry if you “think” any person could be “perfect.” ALL people have made mistakes, even I, even you, ALL. It is through these mistakes we learn to be better people. I, myself, you do not know, but have formed opinions about me. You think I exalt myself as being “superior.”  You may be surprised that I am a very humble person, not judging myself better but knowing that I walk in their shoes.

6. I ask my God every day for wisdom. I ask him everyday for more understanding. I seek him for more knowledge. I am sorry you chose to slam me to think I do not ask the Lord to show me the things in which I error.

7. I am sorry you do not want the military man or woman to be proud of their military branch by having the emblem next to their love for their faith.

8. As I mentioned before, the separation of church and states has been greatly taken out of context to what the framers of our constitution wanted it to be.

Let us be thankful that the government does not execute people for their beliefs–either mine or yours.. (May I remind you this is what the radical Islam believers do.) Mikey, should your efforts be to do work in the Muslim communities here in the United States to tell them we have rights to worship our God just like they do Allah?

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Founder and President Mikey Weinstein

I don’t know who told you I was an “atheist“ but once again your information is completely faulty…You must be listening to that Con Man Fool Pat Robertson onceFool Pat Robertson once again? … Not that it is any of your business but I still pray three times a day in Hebrew and I’m extremely proud of my Jewish faith culture Ethnicity and my large family which is both Jewish and Christian on my wife‘s side… Your arrogance and sanctimony are putrid and your self righteous rectitude is tragic to see… You know, fish in an aquarium never see the water… That would be you… You clearly have too much time on your hands… Your bigotry and prejudice against Muslims is palpable as well as wretched to see… The way it goes is that poor quality education leads to ignorance which breeds fear which catalyzes hate which creates violence… What a shame to see your place in all of this…


Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere

On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:29 PM, John Compere  wrote:

(name withheld),
 
For your information, American military men & women have the right to purchase & possess any verses (religious or non-religious) they desire. However, a private commercial business cannot illegally profit off of them by misrepresenting & mismanufacturing its souvenir merchandise as official government issued military identification tags in violation of its licensing agreement with the Department of Defense & applicable regulatory laws. That is why the military stopped the unlawful practice.
 
Your presumptuous & pious protest is morally misdirected & would be more righteously redirected at those who disrespect & disregard their agreements & our laws rather than at those of us who respect & request compliance with them.
 
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (over 80% Christians)

 

 

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