Within Half an Hour of MRFF Demand, Walter Reed Medical Center Confirmed that Nativity Scene would be Moved — Moved to Chapel an Hour Later!
Within half an hour of Mikey Weinstein contacting Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on behalf of 41 patients, staff, and family members who wanted the large nativity scene dominating the lobby of the complex’s America Building removed, MRFF received confirmation from the medical center’s chief of staff that it would be moved yesterday afternoon.
A little over an hour later, the medical center’s chief of staff e-mailed Mikey again, confirming that the nativity scene had been moved to one of the facility’s chapels, the only place where such a display belongs.
MRFF commends the staff at Walter Reed for swiftly and unhesitatingly doing the right thing!
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Lol you idiots.
It belongs all over the world. If you don’t like it don’t look at it. This is clearly a violation of the first amendment to have it moved. Be prepared to be sued
You Dummies !!!
Why would the menorah be put up ahead of the Holliday observance?? Answer me that !!? Spreading lies !!!
Enter idiots, stage right.
Tell me you’ve only read the Barton’s history books without saying so, amirite?
For those of you who don’t know, David Barton (WallBuilders, founder) made a name for himself by claiming the USA is a Christian nation and supported those claims by inventing quotes from the founding fathers. When challenged by the historical experts in the field, he doubled down. That’s the view from ten thousand feet. A closer look will take one down rabbit holes that make MAGA appear sane. I did the digging for you, you’re welcome.
David Barton along with his son Tim Barton convinced many school districts to carry their NatC curriculum. We The People now have an entire generation of citizens who were taught the USA is a Christian nation. And it’s all based on a lie.
Thank you MRFF for defending the Constitution and Bill of Rights, not to mention DOD regulations. Our country is fortunate to have you here/now, more than ever.
As for the trolls? Oh you precious things. ‘Prepared to be sued’? Bless your heart pumpkin and get ready to experience disappointment.
After a cuppa joe strong enough to dissolve the spoon the migraine is taking a break. Yay me.
Demented and John claim that MRFF violated the first amendment- when it’s obvious from their comments that they’ve never read the first amendment and don’t know what it means. They also don’t know anything about military regulations reinforcing the law requiring that religious symbols displayed by the government be displayed in chapels and may not be displayed in common areas where they represent establishment of religion in violation of the first amendment rights of our service members.
Freedom of religion does not give anyone the right to force their religion on others with different beliefs. Our military hospitals are there to serve all our service members who need them – without regard to their religious beliefs or lack of religious beliefs. They are not there to promote religion in general or any particular religion.
Another MRFF victory and inclusionary effort in support of the Constitutional separation of church and state.
Christians act like they go to a hospital to pray!
The converse being, do you get medical treatment at church?
Most hospitals have a quiet room for folks to reflect on their loved ones condition, a moment of solace and hope, visited and used by all faiths to include (gasp) non-faith atheists!
A Harvard study, coincidentally, found that those prayed for in hospitals actually had worse outcomes, less efficacious, for your religious trivia note of the day.
If it’s important to Christians to have a nativity scene in the foyer of the hospital, wouldn’t it also be appropriate to have other religion’s iconography also displayed? A menorah, Star of David, et. Al.
Or is the message (in the Christian mind), “this hospital is reserved for care of Christians only?”
Why don’t ya’ll just get crosses tattooed on your foreheads and your problem is solved. Christianity displays will be with you wherever you go!
Another MRFF victory in support of our diverse and secular military.
Christianity is to medical care as disease is to treatment!
Synergy, you wrote, “Christians act like they go to a hospital to pray!
The converse being, do you get medical treatment at church?”
I suppose if you include “faith healing” or “laying on of hands”, they might. Although I don’t know what they’d expect to find at a base hospital or clinic to heal their faith. I’d think the Chapel would be a more appropriate place to go if something’s injured your faith . . . .
Good comment J.P. Agree with the idea of your comment, if one were “faithful,” excepting that “faith” cannot be injured. No such thing, doesn’t exist, because … faith doesn’t exist! It’s not a thing! It’s a neurological processing pathway, propaganda further solidifying those neural connections.
Would be like saying “my ignorance was injured!” You can only become more or less ignorant or faithful as a state of mind, controlled by processing, not as a state of being. Abductive reasoning completely lost – “I don’t have an answer, therefore, God!”
Levels of belief without evidence would be more accurately described, rather than faith, as levels of ignorance, a term used to proximate a limited neural road map, the interrupt routine that takes priority, an architectural problem that might lead some to believe the laying of hands will regrow an amputated limb!
Like foot traffic that wears down grass through a field that becomes void of vegetation, a hardened pathway that makes growth more difficult, so are the neural pathways that grow ignorance, reinforced with each interrupt to the operating system that stays the algorithm, a processing problem that produces religious “faith” and …. MAGA! Some break free, most do not.
Very hard to free oneself from the bonds of ignorance without the processing support of alternative interrupt routines. Unlike hardware, the “fetch” cycles in the human brain are modifiable, but become default regressive without exercise (my stolen expression, “get some fat on your head!” – given to me by a by a black Sergeant Major in my younger years, meaning, grow some smarts).
We’re getting closer with AI. Will be interesting watching it unfold as Yuval Harari predicts, “we become Homo Deus,” Homo Sapiens replaced by a new species, Gods ourselves!
Agree, the chapel is a better place to go for whatever it is they’re looking for, certainly not neural plasticity. Although, I understand Walter Reed has a very good treatment facility for traumatic brain injury owing to our last twenty years of war.
Got on my soap box, my apologies.
Always like reading your thoughts and thoughts of others in this forum, even detractors, if for nothing else, to understand the thinking, or lack thereof in some.
“Bless their hearts!” :-)
ATB!
looks like shit now
No, Oscar, it looks normal as a hospital should look like.
Oscar Meyer was referring to the incoming Trump Team!
Lol you mean the dream team?
What was that? Wet pubescent dream? Orange baby – sounds ‘bout right!
“I wanna do tawiffs. I wanna do tawiffs! I don’t like bwoun people! Waiz my fioman hat?”
The Dweam Team!
😂
De facto President Elect, Elon Musk, under the advise of his former campaign toddler Donald Twump, elects to “shut down the Government!”
“Twits on Twitter!” MAGA Tears!
“But Leon, I want tawiffs.” Handing comedy its biggest windfall!
Oscar: I really appreciate your generosity in sharing your expertise in interior design with us here (even though your interest in the appearance of the interior space seems kind of “faggy”), when you obviously have so many important demands on your valuable time. I thank you from the bottom of my heart, and I assure you that I will give your comments the amount of respect and attention they deserve.
Hah! Good on ya Jeff! Too funny!
Welcome to autocracy America! An unelected billionaire wants to shut down the United States Government!
You asked for it. You got it!
Elon Musk running the Dipshits On Government Enadoline (DOGE), Trump’s new department you asked for, asking for a Government shut down by way of tweet.
Welcome to your new country!
The MAGA faithful in Congress saying, “let’s shut it down until Jan 20th! Looking at you Marjorie!
Which means the 1.3 million active duty military members don’t get paid along with the 800,000 National Guard members just to name two groups effected.
Yes, they will get paid retroactively but can you pay your bills retroactively? Yes – with fines and fees and credit reporting damage.
All those Government employee brain injury physicians and specialists at Walter Reed caring for your military family member? Working without pay and hoping the checks don’t bounce.
But hey, Elon said there was going to be pain so it isn’t like you didn’t know it was coming.
You know who isn’t affected? Members of Congress! They still get paid! “I got mines!”
Just a tiny eenie weenie taste of what’s coming with the Dipshits On Government Enadoline, co-President Elon doing his thing!
Seniors and pensioners still get their Social Security and pensions, but the folks in Government still working (got federal police?), awww, Elon and Marjorie will send you a Trump crying towel, only $49.95 (the signed edition will cost a bit more – all made in China – get them before Jan 20th, you know, tariffs)!
Here’s to hoping DOGE gets shoved right up Elon and Trump’s fat white asses!
Remember the word autocracy. You asked for it – you got it! Military parades on the horizon, fealty promulgated.
Synergy, I pretty much agree with your reply. There’s just one thing that got me a bit . . . riled. You see, I have a Master of Science degree in Studies of the Future from University of Houston, Clear Lake. So, when you wrote,
“We’re getting closer with AI. Will be interesting watching it unfold as Yuval Harari predicts, “we become Homo Deus,” Homo Sapiens replaced by a new species, Gods ourselves!”
I was a little miffed. Yuval Harari is not a futurist: no professional futurist makes predictions. Amateurs do, but professionals recognize our futures as multiple, contingent and tentative.
Other than that, great observations!
OK J.P. I’m obviously not a futurist and I commend you on your studies. You’re, obviously now, more versed than most in predictions and I credited Yuval Hurari using the wrong word, on me, not Mr. Hurari.
I thought Homo Deus was an interesting read, the “prediction” my word.
But speaking of riled, and predictions, humorously, why the fuck didn’t you warn us we were getting Diaper Don and the Quack Pack?
I looked for PhD programs in futurist studies and, interestingly, found a program at the Imam Khomeini University in Qazvin, Iran! Pretty telling considering where it is. I’ve been there (Qazvin). You don’t wanna go! Got stranded there one time on my way to the Caspian Sea and hitched a ride back to Tehran on a grape truck! Fun story. Qazvin, in those days, had a reputation for being the Sitges of Spain, without the beaches if you catch my drift. Also a futurist studies program at the University of Tehran – naw, I wouldn’t do that one either. Went there in my early life to learn Farsi. Good University but not exactly somewhere you’d want to live. The people are great, the government? Not so much!
The Technological University of Dublin, on the other hand, would be a good craic as they say in Ireland!
Good luck with your PhD studies – why stop now? Good on ya! Never met a futurist. Looking forward to your “future” comments.
ATB
Sorry, I said you’re well versed in predictions. My bad. Should have said “you’re more well versed that most in the recognition of multiple and contingent possible outcomes.”
Synergy, I appreciate the response! After completing a MS in Futures Studies, I went after a PhD in Sociology. You can get a PhD in Political Science with a concentration in Futures Studies from University of Hawaii (the other UH) at Manoa, but I don’t recall seeing a PhD program exclusively in foresight or futures studies recently.
After graduating from UHCL, I got a job with the American Red Cross’ Heart of Texas Area Chapter. Among the 18 Central Texas counties we covered were Bell, Coryell and Lampasas — home to what is now Fort Cavazos, but which was still The Hood at the time. Because I couldn’t find enough volunteers to work nights and weekends, I had to be on call all day, every day — for three and a half years.
By the time I went to Texas Woman’s University to work on the PhD, I was pretty well toasted. I was so tired that I said “tied” instead — I couldn’t summon up the energy to get the “r” in the word! And in April 2021, I was formally diagnosed with narcolepsy. So that’s when I decided to cut my losses and accept a MA in Sociology.
So, thanks for asking! If you don’t mind, I’d like to direct a question to John Brown.
John Brown, you’re absolutely right: it’s not yet Hanukkah. But, then again, it’s not Christmas, either. Christmas comes on December 25 this year, if memory serves me correctly. Hanukkah starts at sundown on December 25. So if it’s not appropriate to display the Hanukkiah (the menorah with holders for eight candles and a helper), why is it appropriate to display a nativity scene?
And wouldn’t it be better to avoid the appearance of the government favoring one religion over others by just keeping religious displays to the Chapels? That’s where most people would find the greatest significance in them.
Fuck you Grinch/Scrooge!
lol. You are giving them too much credit by calling them Grinch and Scrooge. You got the “fuck you” part right though.
Awww, Putin’s puppets get a little “twiggered” as Donnie would say?
Too funny!
Keep wearing that MAGA hat, makes it easier to spot stupid in a crowd! Oh, don’t forget the “real men wear diapers” T-shirt! :-)