Waterboard Whinigstein

Michael Weinstein we hate you! 

All red blooded Americans hate you. God hates you.

Get out of America NOW!

How dare you support the ousting of that brave airman at the retirement ceremony from simply reaffirming that America and its flag are God-given and that America is God-blessed. You atheists and jews can’t get it through your stiff-necked heads that we are a Christian nation intentionally by birth and history. And we always will be. Why do you think the pilgrims said prayers at Plymouth Rock. God His Son and the Holy Spirit are what America brings to the fallen world.

Our Muslim president may support you but his term is over thank God in January.

You need to be locked up and waterboarded until you accept the Lord Jesus Christ as the full sinner you are.


From: (name withheld)
Subject: Re: Waterboard Whinigstein
Date: June 21, 2016 at 4:58:54 PM MDT
To: Mikey Weinstein <[email protected]>

Wow. Love letters like that explain the secrecy of you’re travels and PSD. 

I initially thought “How could they do that to Rodriguez?”  Them you pointed out that they requested no religious deviation from the approved version. And military folks don’t know all the rules while they serve.

I’m a religious conservative and I like you. You offer more rational thought than those who oppose you with emotionally charged arguments.

Take care and stay in touch.

(name withheld)


Hi (name withheld), (That would make a great alias, by the way)

You’re just flat wrong about so many things it’s hard to know where to start.

I’m a red-blooded American and Mikey is a friend of mine. You don’t know him and choose to hate him out of ignorance, which is sad.

As your use of the word “support” suggests, the “ousting of that brave airman,” as you choose to think of him, wasn’t Mikey’s idea, nor was it his doing.

That was the action of the commander in charge who, if you’d bother to read and understand the reports, specifically barred the man from speaking as it was an official event and there are official, actually authorized, words to be said at that moment. “(T)hat brave man” had evidently been specifically told he was not to participate and chose to push his way forward anyway. At a private, not-military-endorsed event, people can say what they choose, but that’s not the case at an official event.

You’re welcome to your opinion about the formation of this country, but you have the history and the facts wrong.

It is interesting, may I add, that you appear to believe what you suggest about the president of the United States and also are apparently a fan of waterboarding. Sad, but interesting.

Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)


(name withheld)

 

Excuse me?

 

Are you the modern day inquisition that believes in torture for those that you oppose? What type of Christian are you that you believe a person should be tortured to make him confess a belief in Jesus when He said to preach the gospel instead?

 

You should get your facts straight before you fire off an email containing un-Christian hate mail because the truth has been distorted in the media.

 

We are neither an atheist organization nor are we anti-Christian. Mikey is Jewish (and prays to the same Father we do 3 times a day) and 80% of the Board, Advisory Board, volunteers and supporters of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) are Christians. In fact, 96% of our 45,500+ soldier clients are Christians – Catholics, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Methodist, Lutherans, Baptists, Evangelicals, etc. We fight for the rights of these Christians more than any other religion but it never makes the news.

 

Here are some facts:

“A source who was present at the event told the military blog that Rodriguez was there at the request of the retiree, but had been banned from the base by the squadron commander.

A spokesman from the reserve said that the confrontation stemmed from “an unplanned participation” at the event.

Rodriguez ignored numerous requests to respect the Air Force prescribed ceremony and unfortunately was forcibly removed,” a Travis official said in a statement to FoxNews.com. “We will continue to investigate the situation fully.”

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/04/06/air-force-reserve-probes-video-showing-retiree-removed-ceremony.html

 

He was banned from the base by the Commander and never should have been there. His participation was “an UNPLANNED participation” and he ignored the only flag folding ceremony the Air Force allows for retirement ceremonies.

http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/133672/new-flag-folding-script-focuses-on-history-af-significance.aspx

 

Here is the wording of the flag folding ceremony allowed by the Air Force:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUnqeOrweq8

 

Just because a retiree asks someone to speak about the flag folding with different meanings doesn’t give him the right to flaunt the formal wording for it on an Air Force base. He was told to stop but wouldn’t and had to be forcefully removed because he was fighting against them.

 

As defenders of the Constitution we fight for the separation of church and state.

 

“…but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” (Article I, III)

This means that from the President to Congress to the military – no one’s job is based on their religion.

 

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (Establishment Clause), or prohibiting the free exercise thereof (Free Exercise Clause).”(First Amendment)

 

The Establishment Clause means that you cannot favor one religion over another even though it is in the majority. This clause respects the RIGHTS of all religions. Our military is SECULAR and there are people of other faiths that don the uniform that love this country.

 

The Free Exercise Clause (which is subservient to the Establishment Clause) means that our soldiers are free to exercise any religion they want or no religion at all but cannot elevate one God above others.

 

“Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual. Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.” Thomas Jefferson, to the Virginia Baptists (1808) ME 16:320. 

 

This is his second known use of the term “wall of separation,” here quoting his own use in the Danbury Baptist letter.

 

This wording of the original was several times upheld by the Supreme Court as an accurate description of the Establishment Clause.

 

“Jefferson’s concept of “separation of church and state” first became a part of Establishment Clause jurisprudence in Reynolds v. U.S., 98 U.S. 145 (1878). In that case, the court examined the history of religious liberty in the US, determining that while the constitution guarantees religious freedom, “The word ‘religion’ is not defined in the Constitution. We must go elsewhere, therefore, to ascertain its meaning and nowhere more appropriately, we think, than to the history of the times in the midst of which the provision was adopted.” The court found that the leaders in advocating and formulating the constitutional guarantee of religious liberty were James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. Quoting the “separation” paragraph from Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists, the court concluded that, “coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment thus secured.

 

In 1878 “separation of church and state” became part of the Establishment Clause BY LAW.

 

The Supreme Court heard the Lemon v. Kurtzman case in 1971 and ruled in favor of the Establishment Clause.

 

Subsequent to this decision, the Supreme Court has applied a three-pronged test to determine whether government action comports with the Establishment Clause, known as the Lemon Test:

 

Government action violates the Establishment Clause unless it: 

1. has a significant secular (i.e., non-religious) purpose, 

2. does not have the primary effect of advancing or inhibiting religion 

3. does not foster excessive entanglement between government and religion

 

 Parker v. Levy: 

 “This Court has long recognized that the military is, by necessity, a specialized society separate from civilian society… While the members of the military are not excluded from the protection granted by the First Amendment, the different character of the military community and of the military mission requires a different application of those protections. … The fundamental necessity for obedience, and the consequent necessity for imposition of discipline, may render permissible within the military that which would be constitutionally impermissible outside it… Speech [in any form] that is protected in the civil population may nonetheless undermine the effectiveness of response to command.  If it does, it is constitutionally unprotected.” (Emphasis added) Parker v. Levy, 417 U.S. 733, 1974

 

AFI (Air Force Instruction) 1-1, Section 2.12:

 2.12. Balance of Free Exercise of Religion and Establishment Clause. Leaders at all levels must balance constitutional protections for their own free exercise of religion, including individual expressions of religious beliefs, and the constitutional prohibition against governmental establishment of religion. They must ensure their words and actions cannot reasonably be construed to be officially endorsing or disapproving of, or extending preferential treatment for any faith, belief, or absence of belief.

 

To place the Christian god above all others is in violation of Reynolds v. U.S., Lemon v. Kurtzman, the Lemon Test, Parker v. Levy and Air Force Instructions 1-1, Section 2:12

 

As far as our country being founded as a Christian nation you couldn’t be more wrong.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/11/21/america-did-not-start-with-the-pilgrims/

 

The Treaty of Tripoli was signed at Tripoli on November 4, 1796.It was submitted to the Senate by President John Adams, receiving ratification unanimously from the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797, and signed by Adams, taking effect as the law of the land on June 10, 1797; a mere 8 years since our Constitution went into effect. If what was written was wrong in anyway, there would have been uproar. But, it passed unanimously and confirmed that America was not founded on Christianity.

Treaty of Tripoli:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

The Constitution reflects our founder’s views of a secular government protecting the freedom of any belief or unbelief.

 

The historian, Robert Middlekauff, observed, “The idea that the Constitution expressed a moral view seems absurd. There were no genuine evangelicals in the Convention, and there were no heated declarations of Christian piety.”

 

“The Salem witchcraft was the rock on which the theocracy shattered”. George Lincoln Burr (1857 – 1938), Professor of History and Librarian at Cornell University

 

“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

 

“History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”

Thomas Jefferson: in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813

“The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”

John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” 1787-1788

“If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myselfto establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”

George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

“The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
James Madison, 1819, Writings, 8:432, quoted from Gene Garman, “Essays In Addition to America’s Real Religion”

“Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.” 

James Madison; Monopolies, Perpetuities, Corporations, Ecclesiastical Endowments

 

“God has appointed two kinds of government in the world, which are distinct in their nature, and ought never to be confounded together; one of which is called civil, the other ecclesiastical government.”

Isaac Backus, An Appeal to the Public for Religious Liberty, 1773

 

“During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.

What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not.”

James Madison 1785 Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments

 

“Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting “Jesus Christ,” so that it would read “A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;” the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.”

As Thomas Jefferson wrote in his Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom

 

The Unites States is not a theocracy and according to our Founding Fathers the Constitution is not based on Christianity or biblical law.

 

As retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor said “We do not count heads before enforcing the First Amendment.”

 

This means that just because the majority of Americans are Christians doesn’t give them special treatment.

 

Not “all red blooded Americans hate us” especially our soldiers.

 

We’re not going anywhere, but if you want to live in a theocracy, there are many countries you can move to.

 

Joan Slish

MRFF Advisory Board Member


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2 Comments

  1. Alan Geiger

    Wow, there are just no limits to craziness and hate. I almost feel guilty for finding this one hilarious. Mikey, I can’t believe that you’ve become the prime target of so many religinuts.
    Keep up the good work.

  2. G

    Anyone who tells Weinstein to get out of the country needs to go back to their country of origin since their ancestors came here legally, illegally, as indentured servants, as slaves, or as political, social, and economic refugees.

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