Update: 2/22/17 – San Diego Union Tribune, Stars and Stripes, Military.com, & San Diego Jewish World Covers MRFF and ACLU’s Demand for Equal Representation in Holiday Display at MCRD SD

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13 Comments

  1. Joshua Rownd

    Good grief, the holidays are 10 months away and all displays are put away until then.

  2. Connie

    Premature request
    Forestalls permit denial
    ‘Fair’ is not this game

  3. G

    JR, it used to be that Thanksgiving was treated like it was on an equal level with Christmas, but now American corporations spend more time in November showing Christmas displays instead of showing reverence for Thanksgiving.

  4. G

    And the Marines will lose again. The military lawyers are total ignoramus considering the fact that the taxpayers spend a lot of money on their lawyer degrees.

  5. Joshua Rownd

    G,
    Marines never lose!! Maybe you have never heard the phrase, Marines never die, they just go to hell to regroup!

  6. G

    Marines never lose. Oh really, well they did not win in Korea or Vietnam. Go to hell to regroup? I guess they are followers of Satan then since they were doing the devil’s work for American corporations as Smedley Butler pointed out in his book War is a Racket.

    Marines die just like anyone else. How do you know they go to hell? According, the USMC song, they are guarding the streets of Heaven.

  7. G

    “Marines never die,”

    JR, have you known any Marines that were killed in action or died in peacetime whether they were still in the military or were retired and had come back from the dead to tell you about Heaven and Hell? Marines never die? Are you saying that Marines are gods or children of a lesser god(s)? I don’t recall guys like Smedley Butler or Chesty Puller coming out of their graves and proving that Marines don’t die.

  8. G

    “Marines never lose.”

    The Marines lost at Wake Island, they lost in the Phillippines in 1941, and from what I had heard, they had surrendered to the Japanese in Shanghai, China in 1941 without firing a shot in anger.

  9. Joshua Rownd

    G,
    Maybe you should know your WWII history a little bit better. The Marines were not in the Philippines in 1941, it was Gen MacArthur of the Army that was battling the Japanese in the Philippines.

    The Marines may have lost the first battle of Wake Island but they came back in 1945 and defeated the Japanese and took back the island.

    Most of the China Marines were withdrawn in November 1941, but those at the embassy were scheduled to be withdrawn on December 10. However, Imperial Japan attacked the United States on December 7, and the Marine Embassy guards, plus some US Navy support personnel, a total of 204 men, were captured and held as slave labor until the war’s end in August 1945. Last commander of China Marines was Colonel William W. Ashurst.[2]

  10. G

    JR, it is you who definitely who should know your World War II history.

    First of all, you should know that every US Navy base has a detachment of US Marines. That being said, there were Marine detachments at Subic Bay Naval Base, Cavite, and Olongapo in the Philippines in 1941. They experience Japanese air raids at those naval bases and later fought in the battles on Bataan and Corregidor.

    Secondly, in the book Marine about the life of Chesty Puller, Puller had heard that the remaining Marines who were in Shanghai had surrendered without firing a shot, and he was ticked off big time. I guess Puller believe in dead before dishonor. When you are captured, it means that you had lost so the Marines had lost at Shanghai.

    Those Marines who were withdrawn from China were sent to the Phillippines in where they fought in at Bataan and Corregidor so they did lose, Period.

    “The Marines may have lost the first battle of Wake Island.”

    They lost the battle of Wake Island, so there is no ifs, ands, buts or maybes. That is a historical fact. There was no second battle of Wake Island in 1945. The Japanese on Wake island surrendered on September 4, 1945, without firing a shot. That is also a historical fact.

    You sir, are like Mr. Pavel Chekov of the TV show Star Trek in the episode The Trouble with Tribbles. Like Mr. Chekov, your knowledge of history is pretty pathetic.

  11. G

    “….and the Marine Embassy guards, plus some US Navy support personnel, a total of 204 men, were captured and held as slave labor until the war’s end in August 1945.”

    Yeah, and despite the end of the American Civil War, the Afro-Americans were subject to various Black Crow laws and violations of those laws got them landed in court and because they could not pay the fines imposed on them by the court, they got send to prison where they were leased out to both American Northern and Southern companies and were treated like slaves again and we don’t know how many died from the terrible jail and working conditions. It did not end until 1935 when the federal government found out about this huge criminal labor racket.

  12. G

    “….and the Marine Embassy guards, plus some US Navy support personnel, a total of 204 men, were captured and held as slave labor until the war’s end in August 1945.”

    We still have slave or semi-slave labor in this country. For example, the CEOs in the Silicon Valley made an unwritten agreement not to poach each other’s workforce in order to keep wages of the computer industry workers down. It shows you how top management even treats its highly skilled science and math workforce like peons.

  13. Connie

    As the widow of an old Marine I can tell you the one thing a Marine will never do – give up.

    Over, under, around, or through – that was the guiding principle my late husband embraced. He lost many battles. He lost his war with cancer, dying just before making his goal of seeing 2012.

    With me standing by his side he never gave up. That is the essential definition of a Marine.

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