MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell Responds to Detractor

From: (name withheld)

Subject: MAGA-Please return to hell
Date: February 7, 2019 at 4:48:15 PM MST

 

Mr. Weinstein I am the deacon of our church in our town and our congregation has studied your ‘work’ in support of the persecution of Jesus Christ in the armed services of our great nation.

Even giving you and your MRFF the benefit of the doubt it is quite clear that you serve Satan and will return to him in hell when you expire on this earth. How dare you speak against the Bladensburg Cross and the National Prayer Breakfast!

How does it feel to be one of the most hateful persons on this earth? What must your wife and childrens think of you?

You will find out too late that Jesus is the only way truth and light and that being a jew will never get you or any others of your deceiving tribe to heaven.

Our soldiers need Jesus and nothing else.

And as to you they need you to return to hell as soon as possible. Do it for America.

(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
On Feb 7, 2019, at 5:59 PM, Mike wrote:

To the Not Very Reverand (name withheld)

It periodically comes to me to respond to email requests from those who are not capable of comprehending either the work of or the necessity for the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. You, sir, are clearly such a person.

Your request that Mr. Weinstein “return to hell as soon as possible” cannot be granted as Mr. Weinstein has never been to hell in the first place, a fact that may also be outside your capacity for comprehension. Further, he has no intention of paying a visit to the netherworld because it is a toxic place filled with self-righteous anti-semites, hypocrites, condemnatory blowhards and poseurs like yourself who pretend to follow Jesus while living lives of the kind of smug self-satisfaction that Jesus himself found repulsive and repudiated.

If you are in fact the”‘deacon” of a church and have so misled your congregation as to have them believe the bilge you’ve spouted here, one can only assume your poor addled followers suffer from the kind of spiritual blight that is so evident in your MAGA reference and the impoverished thought processes you’ve demonstrated in this pitiful missive.

One hopes against hope that you’ll do the charitable thing for your benighted crowd, confess your sinful ignorance and free them from the yoke of thoughtlessness, hopelessness, bias and ineptitude that surrounds your every utterance.

Mike Farrell

(MRFF Board of Advisors)


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member John Compere
On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:23 PM, John Compere  wrote:

 

reverend or deacon (name withheld),
 
Your diabolical diatribe, inexplicable ignorance of the American Constitution’s prohibition against government endorsement or promotion of religion, anti-Christian judging & condemning of others, & abhorrent anti-Semitic slurs reflect only on yourself & reveal a hateful hypocrite who cannot communicate in a civil manner.
 
It is recommended you seek secular instruction on the 1st Amendment that prohibits our government from lawfully “respecting” a religion, read the New Testament concerning God’s exclusive authority to judge (Romans 2:1-3), Jesus condemning the judging of others (Matthew 7:1-2, Luke 6:36-37) & there being no difference between Jews & Gentiles (Romans 10:12, 1 Corinthians 12:13, Galatians 3:28).
 
Please be informed that Jesus, his disciples & biblical authors were Jews – not Christians. Jesus was known as “king of the Jews” – not Christians (Matthew 2:2&27:11, Luke 23:3&38). Jesus preached “salvation is from the Jews” – not Christians (John 4:22). The countless Christianities are just branches off the ancient tree of Judaism. There would be no Christianities without the Jewish faith, culture & people.
 
“Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.” – Christian Philosopher Blase Pascal
 
“There is no argument in the world that carries the hatred that a religious belief one does.” – American Icon Mark Twain
 
“Hatred corrodes the container it is carried in.” – America President George H.W. Bush
 
John Compere
Brigadier General, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Advisory Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (composed of over 80% Christians)
 
P.S. Feel free to pass this on to your congregation.

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Ted Furlow

On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Ted Furlow wrote:

 

Dear Deacon,

 

I am taken aback by the use of your sacred position to rail and condemn others.  I wonder how Jesus would view you and your bible circle’s vitriol?

Consider this, Jesus stood with those who were marginalized, excluded, deemed unworthy, or flat out demonized.  Jesus stood with those folk because their exclusions showed the idolatries

of their accusers.  Jesus even made room for tax collectors, and He mostly associated with Jews.  The dogmatic hated Him for it, because it was easier to condemn than to love.  Jesus distanced Himself from the self perpetuating and the self aggrandizing who believed that through their parochial version of faith they were sinless and untouchable.  Sounds like you and your tribe.

 

Deacon, content within your narrowmindedness and self-righteous rage, consider this comment by St. Joseph the Studite – I know, he’s probably not in your bible study book, but Google him and learn. As we approach difficult differences, this should be the manner of our preparations.  “Not in anger or contention, not in envy or strife, not in self glory and with hidden deceit, but like Christ, in humble mindedness.”

 

The Christian world stands on the threshold of the Lenten season.  You have a lot of work to do.

 

Best,

Ted Furlow


 

From: Active Duty U.S. Army Combat Medic’s E-Mail Address Withheld
Subject: Re: MAGA-Please return to hell
Date: February 9, 2019 at 4:23:15 AM MST
To: Michael L Weinstein <[email protected]>
Far-From-Dearest “Reverend” (or deacon, or whatever it is that you’re calling yourself today) (name withheld),
 
Though my name is irrelevant to your so-called “cause,” you can call me Sergeant, Sergeant First Class, or Doc (name withheld) (I’ll allow you to choose one of those titles, but only one). I am an active duty Soldier in the most glorious military to ever have graced our beautiful country (since you have deemed yourself worthy of the Soldiers’ Solicitori-Ipso-Facto title, you MUST:
 
1. Be aware that the term “Soldier” has been proclaimed and approved by military doctrine as a proper term and, as such, should be capitalized when referenced as a body of individuals/group or a single individual within the United States…um….that-one-military-branch that is traditionally referred to as “Soldiers.” (Wait…Don’t you have to have a degree as a reverend?  You should know this information already. I’m just an enlisted Soldier and even I know that…) Anyway…. 
 
2. When you are referencing something that someone said verbatim, you are supposed to use quotation marks, not a stand-alone apostrophe. Singular apostrophes are only utilized to quote verbatim statements or referenced material when the quoted text is within other quoted text. For example, Reverend Sholis stated, “…our congregation has studied your ‘work’ in support….” See the difference? If not, please feel free to ask. After all, no question is stupid (unlike statements; idiotic statements are the product of idiotic mindsets and often result in unwarranted misrepresentation of oneself without the appropriate authority to do so…). Grammar and punctuation are important, especially when attempting to intellectually defame or demoralize an opponent in written form. This is Rule #2 of written verbal warfare, second only to “Rule #1: Check the facts; seek wisdom and guidance from a well-rounded pool of subject-matter-experts before you spew garbage from the orifice beneath your intellectually deficient gray matter (you likely refer to this void as ‘mouth’ or ‘cake hole’) about the topic which you intend to address.” Don’t get mad at me, reverend-deacon Sholis. I don’t make the rules, I simply educate others about them and enforce them. 
 
 

 

3. Prior to announcing that you represent someone or something as a solicitor to their collective views, stances, nominations, etc., you should FIRST identify yourself to your target audience instead of hiding behind a keyboard and mouse like a coward. (Unless you are legally prohibited from identifying yourself; being scared doesn’t count). Feel free to utilize Mikey Weinstein as a golden example for form. Here are excerpts from his biography and from the MRFF’s description (for your use to reference as one way you can clearly identify yourself to your intended target audience):
“Michael L. ‘Mikey’ Weinstein

Mikey Weinstein is the undisputed leader of the national movement to restore the obliterated wall separating church and state in the most technologically lethal organization ever created by humankind: the United States armed forces…”  Also, “[Military Religious Freedom Foundation] MRFF currently represents approximately 61,000 and counting active duty U.S. marines, sailors, Soldiers, airmen, cadets, midshipmen, national guard, reservists and veterans, including matters involving High School JROTC around the nation, about 95% of whom self-identify as practicing Christians.”

 
 
4. You might also want to ensure that the following rings true: 
 
     A. The group for whom you intend to stand as spokesperson actually intends for you to represent them as a whole. For example, “How does it feel to be one of the most hateful persons on this earth?…” implies some assumed “facts”:
          i. That most of the Earth’s population has chosen you to be their sounding board for representation of their feelings towards the specific matter of Mikey’s “hateful” affect because you clearly state that you know that the majority of the Earth’s population views him as “hateful.” Well, after over 15 years of active duty military service and sacrifice, I would venture to say that your question’s insinuated statement is not only incorrect, but also flagrantly false.
          ii. You are unaware that references to Earth as a planet requires you to reference it as a formal name and, therefore, as a proper noun. Proper nouns should always be capitalized (“Earth”, not “earth”). If you were referring to the soil on which the people you are falsely representing were/are standing, it would be a simple noun and would not need to be capitalized. Again, don’t forget Rule #2 of written verbal warfare (see para. 2 above).
 
     B. That you are qualified to solicit what you are representing. You stated, “Our soldiers need Jesus and nothing else.” Are you a Soldier? Have you ever been a Soldier? Okay, those were VERY rhetorical questions. You are OBVIOUSLY not a Soldier, nor have you ever been one. Can Jesus stop a bullet? No. Can Jesus provide intelligence to our units so that they can evade and deter the enemy to avoid hostile engagement unless absolutely necessary? No. Can Jesus give needle chest decompression to relieve the pressure from a tension pneumothorax or a hemo-pneumothorax? Or cut an airway so that someone choking on their own teeth from a blast can breathe? Or insert a chest tube with Jerry-rigged suction to buy a Soldier a few more precious hours of life until air assets can finally obtain clearance from Dustoff to engage and suppress the enemy around the hastily marked CCP LZ and provide fire coverage for the MEDEVAC bird so they can hoist her to safety so she might be able to see her mom again instead of dying in enemy territory? The answer is no to all of those questions. But you know what can? Good body armor, a properly outfitted reconnaissance crew, a well-trained and seasoned combat medic or two, and a properly-stocked medical aid bag with a Skedco litter and hoist straps. 
 
     C. That you are constitutionally, emotionally, intellectually, educationally, and psychologically qualified to accurately articulate your intended target subject (see para. 4B for identification of this particular point of failure, in your case).
 
     D. That you are legally, morally and characteristically authorized to do so, and that you possess and regularly exercise a socially acceptable set of values which were developed from societally licit-based standards. 
 
As a religious leader, you disappointed me in your email when you stated, “Mr. Weinstein I am the deacon of our church in our town…” then, in the same correspondence also stated, “…being a jew will never get you or any others of your deceiving tribe to heaven.” Why on Earth would someone in a position of religious power and trust ever say such a hateful thing? According to the teachings of Christ, are we all not God’s children? And as a representative of God, are you not supposed to love all His children without bias? Murderer, unmarried single mother, bastard child, divorcee, Jew, Catholic, Baptist, Reverend, Christian, Muslim, Eskimo, Haitian, American, ..the list of titles and labels goes on forever. According to the Church of Christ’s teachings, are they not all God’s children regardless of the title, label, proclamation, or certification declared and announced by man? Do you forsake any of the people in your flock for having an opinion that is different from yours, or that might question your teachings?  Of course not! So, Reverend-Deacon, son or daughter of Christ, God, Buddha, Islam, or [insert any title given by modern-day man here], is it not your sole purpose on Earth to spread the word of Christ, (God, Buddha, etc.) and save His children from the ravage of damnation, rather than lash out and give in to your weak and angry thoughts of persecution? Perhaps instead of telling a revered member of our society to “go back to hell” when you simply do not agree with their stance on a particular subject, next time you could consider sharing the light of the Word in the place of anger’s necrotic void of darkness (by the way, I’m fairly certain that you must first visit a place before you can return to it)?
 
As a non-traditional, non-religious but semi-spiritual person within the body of Soldiers that Mikey graciously represented yesterday, I certainly do not stand as the sounding board for the entire military but I appreciate his attempt to separate religion from government matters. AND, what I DO stand for is my own right as an American citizen to practice or dismiss religion in whatever fashion I see fit and within whatever capacity I choose or choose not to practice. As a strongly opinionated individual and leader, I understand your discontentment with Mr. Mikey Weinstein. What I do not and will never understand why you, as one of His holy representatives in physical manifestation, would ever justify within your own conscience choosing to verbally aggress ANYONE, regardless of what they legally represent in court.
 
Like the golden rule that my momma taught me when I was a baby says, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.”
 
“Go with love, peace, happiness, and prosperity; but most of all, just go.”
 
Regards,
Doc (name withheld)

 

 

 

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5 Comments

  1. Brian

    Why withhold their names? I’d opt for spreading their shame.

  2. Beth Zion

    Dear Mr. Farrell,
    Mr. Weinstein has not been to hell yet, but you and he are going there along with every other human being past , present and future who will not confess and repent of their sins, and accept Christ as their Lord and Savior. Those are His rules not mine. So, I hope for both of you and all human beings, that before your heart beats for the very last time, you have made your decision, but in the last Indiana Jones movie, the line I like is “choose wisely.”

  3. now that was an awesome response, and as a medically retired Army SSG who as a Pagan has dealt with these evangelical ass-clowns I stand fully behind the MRFF and the awesome work they do. Eric Cooper SSG Retired

  4. G

    Beth Zion, there are millions of non-Christians who have different viewpoints of the afterlife so you have no idea where they will be when they die.

  5. David weber

    As is evident in those and some of these comments, many people say “I believe in ..(choose the god).” Belief does not come with knowledge. Belief comes because of exposure to, study of, and experience with..information, facts, and tested truths. Too many “believers” won’t take the time to critically study scripture and depend on “Bro. Smith” or “ Sis. Rebecca” to explain the meaning of scripture, “unpack it” as they like to call it.
    But listening to a prescher is not study. Thus, the same words and particular theology is passed to generation after generation. And it is usually a variation of fundamentalist kind of doctrine because that’s the easiest to learn and teach, and it also is appealing to those who fear and so get angry about the “enemy” or Satan or “them,” whoever ‘them’ is in their particular doctrine or locale.
    The good news is more and more young people aren’t buying the old news. I think a new way of following Jesus is and will continue to be merging. It won’t be as dependent on self-ordained preachers or self-named bishops and bishopresses, it won’t involve a lot of empty yammering filled with holy words, and it won’t be seeking secular power. It will honor God by following Jesus, if he is their chosen guide (following in the active and doing sense, not the self-congratulatory and veneer thin way many pretend to follow him now. )

    Meanwhile, people were told by Jesus to pray in your closet- not over a loudspeaker or at the order of anyone else. Pray wherever you want to- you don’t have to make noise and close your eyes. (Jesus didn’t). Don’t be pushy or impolite (Jesus wasn’t). Enjoy the opportunity treat strangers, addicts, even people here from other countries. Have a beer with even! (Jesus did), Resist evil, even it’s disguised as an angel of light, or being casually cast on unwitting souls by those in authority.
    Selah.

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