Live and let live

From: (name withheld)
Date: September 1, 2019 at 5:37:56 AM MDT
To: [email protected]org

From what I have learned is y’all just like to stir shit. Live and let live! No! It has to be yer way. If all faith books were on the table would that make you happy? I think not… you would only find something else to bitch about.

Response from MRFF Supporter Sandra Bell
On Sep 1, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Sandra  wrote:

Aw another snowflake. Another “I didn’t get enough love from my mother or my wife” tough guy. Go back to playing your video games. Let the grown-ups handle it.

Sandra Bell
USAF veteran, practicing atheist, MRFF supporter

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  1. Grey One talks sass

    Live and let live the letter writer advocates. Sounds like good advice.


    Except for Christian Nationalists insisting their faith is the one and only faith.

    Except for Christian Nationalists promoting their holy book as above the Constitution.

    Except for Christian Nationalists using their warped view of reality to discriminate against any they decree “less than”.

    It’s possible to live and let live when one side advocates sharing and the other destroys any who disagree with them.

    Yeah, right. /s
    (Look, two positives do make a ‘sarcastic ‘ negative!)

  2. OldSoldier

    I was doing some research online and found a wonderful piece I want to share with all of you. It is exactly how I feel.

    I don’t believe in Santa Claus, but I’m not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don’t agree with Darwin, but I didn’t go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution.
    Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what’s the big deal? It’s not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They’re just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game.
    “But it’s a Christian prayer,” some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So, what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna? If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer. If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer. If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha. And I wouldn’t be offended. It wouldn’t bother me one bit. When in Rome…
    “But what about the atheists?” is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We’re not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that’s asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don’t think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world’s foundations.
    Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now, a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us.
    And, if that last sentence offends you, well… just sue me.
    The silent majority has been silent too long. It’s time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don’t care what they want. It is time the majority rules!
    It’s time we tell them, you don’t have to pray. You don’t have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don’t have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right… but, by golly, you are no longer going to take our rights away. We are fighting back… and we WILL WIN!
    God bless us one and all, especially those who denounce Him… God bless America, despite all her faults, she is still the greatest nation of all… AND God bless our service men and women who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God!
    May this be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions.
    Keep looking up… “In God WE Trust.”

  3. Grey One talks sass

    Ok class. Can anyone tell me how the piece Old Soldier posted (without attribution. Plagiarism is stealing but it must be ok because Old Soldier is doing it????) mixes the issues and muddies the water?

    I’ll start.

    First item I noticed is the claim of prayer at a school sports event. No one (except Todd Starnes) is claiming there is an issue with students praying before, during, or after the event.

    What the Freedom From Religion Foundation (and all Constitution minded folk) want stopped is Teacher, Coach, or any other representative of the administration led prayer.

    I’ve no idea why this concept is so hard for Christian Nationalists to understand. Unless they deliberately do not get it, like a child who does a chore poorly so they won’t be asked to do it again. As I’ve had to learn, such shenanigans do not fly, at least not with my parents.

    The god of Christian Nationalists is not my god. In fact their god reminds me of two thousand years of oppression so Old Soldiers insistence everyone bows down has me up in arms. Make me is my response to them and anyone else who tries the same.

    But I’m off topic so I’ll step off my soapbox so someone else can reply. I look forward to your responses.

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