Aking bible verses off dog tags

I am getting really tired of your group and FFR ,
bullying groups with your anti-Christian philosophies.  The first amendment protects FREEDOM OF (not FROM) religion.  What you are doing is what is unconstitutional.  You are denying many people of an important source of comfort in very dangerous and difficult situations. 
From what I understand these dog tags are saught after, not issued as official tags, so you should not have anything to say about it to begin with.
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere

On Dec 18, 2019, at 7:12 AM, John Compere  wrote:

(name withheld),
For your information, military members may possess any belief & purchase any scripture they wish, but a private commercial business is prohibited from illegally profiting off of them by misrepresenting & mismanufacturing its souvenir merchandise as official government issue military identification tags in violation of its own licensing agreement with the Department of Defense & regulatory laws. That is why the military stopped it.
Your critical comments are misdirected. They would be more credibly directed toward those who disrespect & disregard our laws rather than those of us who respect & request compliance with them.
Most Sincerely,
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (80% Christians)

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  1. G

    Dog tabs are military property and bible verses on them do not protect you from bullets, land mines, grenades, etc., nor do they protect you from the mental effects of war on you.

  2. WFZ337

    How would G know if they do not protect your from the mental affects of war on you. Have you ever talked to a Christian who has been in battle and found comfort from reading the scriptures, I figure not.

    What part of these are not government issued dog tags and you can order specialty or custom made dog tags off the internet from several companies, so your reply that dog tags are military property falls to the ground.


    Perhaps there are other companies who will make dogtags with appropriate symbols for service people of Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, etc beliefs. Perhaps there are companies who will make neutral tags for those of no particular religious beliefs.
    But how many of those other companies have official DOD licenses?? Only this Christian company — that is the undue & illegal favoritism in govt contracts demonstrated by these tags!!

  4. G

    WFZ2337, have you talk to any veterans who were protected from the mental affect of war by reading the scriptures or having biblical verses on their dog tags. I figure not.

  5. Grey One talks sass


    Per the articles posted the company making the vanity tags had the right from the DOD to use military logos, but only if they followed the pertinent regulations. Surprise! The company added Christian messaging making the product unconstitutional and now faces the backlash.

    Because the company is of a Christian Nationalist bent they are whining about persecution. Here’s a clue – follow the rules – easy peasy.

    And no, providing a tag with other faiths (being inclusive) won’t work because of those same DOD regs. Like all things DOD, their rules are written by micro managers on steroids.

  6. DanielHostetler

    I find it astonishing that so many flow believers seem ago incapable of grasping the issue. 1. They only have a license agreement with the army, they were selling ite.s from all branches. -violation 2. The concept of separation between church and state is already known, army regulations prohibit anything with ANY religious content in combination with the army symbols, logos…a tag with a army logo and verse on the opposite violates the license agreement that the company signed. They were violating that agreement which is wrong both from a faith perspective but from a legal perspective. 3. The army didnt tell them to stop producing tags with verses, just none that have the logo shown on the same or opposite side of the same tag. The reprehensible behavior by religious media sources and conservatives to paint this as something it isnt is beyond disgusting, it shows how little they care about faith and how much they are about money and keeping their supporters all riled up.
    The fact that there are comments and statement on this sight that demonstrate a willful and pervasive lack of knowledge on the facts, not to mention comments and statements that are hypocritical to their faith based justification for reacting. Piety and prideful ignorance is obviously the norm for the church today but it is as anti-christ and dishonest as can be and is clearly not from God or reflective of anything they claim to believe but fail to live through their statements and behaviors.

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