1/3/20 – MRFF’s Legal Counsel Officially Demands Proselytizing “Jesus Candy” be Removed from Base Exchanges

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  1. Sage on the Hudson

    This is really no different from the matter of the MRFFF’s fight over scriptural supplemental “dog tags” manufactured by Shields of Strength with DoD service branch logos.

    In each case, it’s not about individual service members’ freedom to purchase these items, but about one company’s right to manufacture their product (“the dog tags”), and another’s to sell theirs (the candy) on military bases.

    In each case, this isn’t about religion, or freedom, but MONEY, plain and simple.

    To the people who write to Mikey and his organization complaining, whining, howling, threatening I say this: you MUST learn to sweep away the clutter of deliberate attempts to obscure the issue by playing on your sentiments and prejudices (we all have them) on the part of those who wish to profit financially from doing WHAT ESTABLISHED LAW SAYS THEY MAY NOT DO.

    NO one is saying that service personnel may not buy “Jesus candy”; no one is saying that once they’ve bought it, they may not bring it onto a military base, eat it, pass it around or leave it out on a table for others to enjoy. It simply may not be SOLD on government property.

    NO one is saying that service personnel may not add scriptural “dog tags” to their regulation tags, ONLY that the company that makes them may not appropriate and apply DoD logos to products that THE LAW says they are not entitled to because it more than implies a government endorsement of a specific religion. It’s very likely that Shields of Strength believes that scriptural “dog tags” WITH DoD logos will sell better than those without them, so they are fighting to retain what THE LAW says they are not entitled to.

    Again, it’s about nothing but MONEY.

    Again, those invested in this matter MUST learn to strip away the irrelevant to see what the issue really is. As with most of the issues in our society, you must come to see that there are those with a vested political and financial interest who will spend a great deal of time and money trying to make you believe what they want you to believe. They will spend millions on this because, in the end, it makes them billions, and allows them to put politicians in office who see it as their mission to defend THEIR interests, NOT yours.

  2. CZ

    Once again, Jesus Candy cannot magically convert anyone by either looking at it or eating it. Mikey should look up what the dictionary definition is for “proselytize.” What the dictionary definition is and what having candy on the shelf is not one and the same.

    If someone is butt hurt over candy canes, then they need to get out of the military and get a life snowflake. I would love to see Mikey freak out over Dreidel Candy on a base shelf, because someone just might get converted to Judaism if they do not watch out, especially if they put a real dreidel in every package of candy.

  3. Grey One talks sass

    CZ,

    If a candy branded with Jesus and Scripture cannot convert a person, then why do it? I mean, I’m using your talking point of no one has been convinced by a candy, so why should a military exchange sell openly religious branded candy? You even cite an example of candy branded with Judaic symbols – incorrectly of course because you are you (haven’t changed a bit with the new year). But still – why sell the candy?

    Sage on the Hudson did an amazing job of laying out the facts and you, CZ, barge into their well laid out explanation with your logical fallacies and whataboutism’s.

    It’s simple (which means you might have to read this twice CZ).

    If a product is branded with any sort of religious symbols that product may not, can not, should not be sold on a military or any other government funded base. For reasons please refer to the First Amendment and over 150 years of settled Supreme Court law.

    See? Simple.

    Of course none of the talking heads for the Christian Nationalist set will accept the facts. Their minds are clouded with revenge pron. Wait – what? You thought all that talk of burning in a lake of fire was because Christian Nationalists care about people and truly want converts for their gang of thieves?

    Oh, no – filled with visions of how the ‘other’ will be punished eternally, the mind of the Christian Nationalist is not a safe space. To see really evil deeds one need only look to the religious for inspiration. Demons wished they had the creativity of the Christian Nationalist. Or so I’ve been told 😛

  4. FriendlyGuy

    Mr. Weinstein seems to really, really, really hate Christians. Like viscerally. I wonder why Mr. Weinstein feels this way. I wonder if Mr. Weinstein even ever served.

  5. FriendlyGuy

    And you would feel this way if it was Jewish themed candy? Or Hindu? Or Islamic? You’d still feel this way, right? You don’t just hate one specific group, correct?

  6. Grey One talks sass

    Hey there (not so) FriendlyGuy. Please explain exactly where hatred of Christianity as a whole is expressed either by myself or Mikey and the MRFF.

    I fully admit to disdain for Christian Nationalists; power hungry denizens of hypocrisy who never met a First Amendment they didn’t want to break. If they’d stop breaking the rules and thereby starting the fights there wouldn’t be any fuss. But no, I don’t hate them. Hate is too powerful an emotion for a group of people I find useless.

    Christianity as a whole though – since my mom is a Christian who lives her life as her lord and savior requested, why would I hate what gives her life meaning?

    All I want is everyone to play by the rules of the Constitution. Christian Nationalists want the USA to be a theocracy. Those two ideas are not compatible – think matter and anti-matter.

    Another thought – Christian Nationalists don’t listen or read for comprehension. Their whole reason for existence is to get out the talking points of their cult.

    I wrote “If a product is branded with any sort of religious symbols that product may not, can not, should not be sold on a military or any other government funded base. For reasons please refer to the First Amendment and over 150 years of settled Supreme Court law.”

    (not so) FriendlyGuy replied to me “And you would feel this way if it was Jewish themed candy? Or Hindu? Or Islamic? You’d still feel this way, right? You don’t just hate one specific group, correct?”

    I guess ‘any sort’ means something different in Christian Nationalist cult speak.

  7. Jessie Smith

    Lighten Up Francis.

  8. G

    Friendly Guy, Weinstein serve in the Air Force for 14 years.

  9. Steve bman

    so, state is a religion per Mikey, read Mikey quote,only one religion. american patriotism, isnt that what hitler , Mao Zedong, stallen , fidel castro, all benefit from a military that elevates leaders to absolute authority. is that what the constitution was aiming for?????????

  10. Steve bman

    State used religion for motivation and moral backing
    God and country
    Gods country
    So, jesus christ never said his kingdom was involved in politics.
    Politics used religion
    Sadly religion embraces politics even though Jesus said stay separated from politics.
    Gospel john

    Just for clarity
    Politics is by nature cultism

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