Foreign Warrior Headstones

You need to sit down and shut up!

Your way of thinking is from a time and place long gone.

As a veteran, I have no problem with any writing or iconography on any headstone in any National Cemetery.
From all the responses to a post on Facebook, the majority of people feel as I do.
You’re a disgrace to the uniform you wore and the oath you took.
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Founder and President Mikey Weinstein

….oh l’il (name withheld) just STFU, tiny sport…OMFG??!!….AS IF we decide such matters by FB posts??!!…just how ignorant are you anyway??!!….you cretin…..try to keep an open mind and read the following, skippy…..

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Martin France

On May 26, 2020, at 6:18 PM, Martin France  wrote:

(name withheld), I occasionally answer emails for Mikey as part of my responsibilities on the MRFF Advisory Board.  Let me address yours with an analogy…

We’re currently still holding prisoners at Guantanamo Bay as enemy combatants in the War on Terror.  If one of them died in captivity, would you recommend that we bury them in a VA cemetery with an Al Qaeda flag engraved on their headstone with “allahu akbar!” beneath their names?  Probably not.  I don’t see a difference between that and a swastika on a grave next to WWII heroes from the US–especially those Americans that might have been Jewish or Black or Gay.  Did you know that there aren’t swastikas on German soldier graves in Germany?  Nor in the German WWII cemeteries in Belgium, Luxembourg, and France–certainly not in Russia or Poland either.  Why?  Because that symbol has been barred in any way except in a museum.  A cemetery isn’t a museum.  Do your research.
And, please:  sit down and shut up.  I don’t know if you ever served–I hope you didn’t.  You’d have been a disgrace.
M France, PhD
Brigadier General, USAF (Retired)
MRFF Advisory Board Member

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
On May 27, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Mike  wrote:
Hi (name withheld),
“Shut up!” can be good advice at times. You might consider it.
Thinking may be “long gone” for you, but we’re still doing itl.
We hear you about your having “no problem” with anything inscribed on a headstone. I suppose some might think
of that as a good thing. Your poll of “a post on Facebook” rather laughably suggests others agree you are right to think
that way. Do you often check Facebook to determine how to feel about things?
Given the fact that you – or whoever wrote this for you – didn’t misspell words, you’re likely not a moron. So why
act like one?
The ugly comments in your last line go way across the line and are likely beneath you. My hope is you have the
stones to apologize. You may have somehow concluded that sticking up for the swastika and Hitler-adoring
inscriptions on government property shows open-mindedness. We feel it demonstrates a lack of historic awareness
and startling insensitivity. Your incredibly stupid closing comments demnstrate the same.
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)

You people are sick! You need help!

Hate, it has caused a lot of problems in this world.
But has not solved one yet!
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Martin France
Excellent, detailed rebuttal, dipshit!  You’re a master of logical rhetoric!  We’re not preaching hate–rather, we’re defending tolerance of respectful ideals and rights, and denying the validity of the horrific.

I see no tolerance in what you are attempting to do. Those foreign soldiers, like our military, fought in a war that wasn’t their choice. But, like us, they fought whether they believed or not. They fought for their brothers beside them. Just like us. I guarantee you that the vast majority of the German soldiers were not members of the Nazi party. I know several friends of my fathers who fought for the German army. I’ve listened to their stories and how they felt about their leadership. Soldiers, no matter the Army, bitch and moan about the crap they have to deal with.

Was the German hierarchy fucked up in their desire to rule all of Europe and the Russian empire? Yeah.
Was the final solution, cooked up by a few in power, one of the worst genocides ever? A resounding yes! No one argues that point.
But should we desecrate the graves of soldiers who didn’t give a fuck about the Third Reich? No……. No.
I, and many other veterans, will speak out against this idea of yours every chance we get.
That’s our right!
(name withheld)

Here’s my last email. Martin and I had an exchange of ideas. No need for an apology.
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
On May 29, 2020, at 12:29 AM, Mike  wrote:
I finally caught up, (name withheld). And I see that you not only haven’t apologized, you’ve actually spread your
self-important judgments a bit more widely. Sick people as well as disgraces and violators of oaths. You
fail to understand this is not about desecrating anyone’s grave, it’s about removing offensive symbols.
But you know what? There are more important things going on today that make dealing with your petty,
pretentious, self-important posturing a waste of time.
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)

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  1. Watchman for Zion

    Mikey, you are the perfect example of why God has called the Chosen People a stiff necked people and why He has blinded your eyes to who the real Messiah is – Yeshua Ha Mashiach. But He is slowly removing the scales off the eyes of your people to see that Yeshua/Jesus is your one and only Messiah and many are coming to faith in Him!

  2. A.L. Hern

    There’s a memorable line in the classic film “Sunset Boulevard”: “Funny how gentle people get with you when you’re dead.”

    The problem with that observation is that not all the dead deserve to be treated gently, based largely on their actions before they got dead.

    In the case of German soldiers, it was that they fought to advance the aims of a genocidal regime, which consisted largely of killing the very American and other Allied soldiers who populate 99.9999 of all the graves in those military cemeteries. As noted above, not all corpses are created equal.

    So, whenever some apologist for these Germans state that they’re “just” soldiers, who served ‘honorably,” let them consider just what, and whom, they served.

  3. Jeff B

    Did Yeshua/Jesus teach you to be a bigot toward people of other faiths and creeds? I don’t think so. You are a hypocrite hardly qualified to advise others on matters of constructive behavior.

  4. Watchman for Zion

    Jeff B,
    It is not being bigoted to call Mikey what God has already called His chosen people the Jews in the first place. It was He who has called them a stiff necked people. If you have a problem with that, then take it up with God Himself.

  5. G

    Watchman for Zion, if God didn’t want the Jews to be stiff-neck, then he should have never allowed it in the first place.

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