Nazi Swastika on grave stones

As a veteran I am appalled over your actions reguarding the removal of the Nazi Swastika from the graves of German soldiers. These soldiers served their country whether willingly or not, they may have felt that what they were doing was right, just as we have felt that many of our choices were right, even when they turned out to be wrong. It’s unfortunate that we still live in a world that promotes anti semitism. I grew up in Washington, D.C. and the first thing I did when returned to D.C. after 30 years was to visit the Holocaust Museum, I wanted to better understand how humanity could be decieved by their country into believing what they were doing was right. You should take this opportunity to look into your your own heart and examine your beliefs and why you think your right and the other person is wrong.

Sincerely,

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Founder and President Mikey Weinstein

…sorry, (name withheld)…..we ARE right and your view is terribly wrong!!..we will not rest until those wretched nazi-adorned headstone are removed…!…Mikey Weinstein…read the below…with an open mind…maybe it will help?


I really feel sorry that people like you have to promote so much hate in hopes that it will put more money into you pockets.
(name withheld)

Response from MRFF Founder and President Mikey Weinstein
…listen carefully, you idiotic blinded poorly educated fool….THAT awful statement is worthy of a vibrant FUCK YOU!!….

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Martin France
On May 20, 2020, at 7:49 AM, Martin France  wrote:

 

(name withheld),

As a member of the MRFF Advisory Board, I occasionally answer email such as yours for Mikey.  Let me address some of your questions.  First, we have no obligation to “honor” deceased members of the enemy–only to respect them in a humane manner (i.e., to not DIShonor them).  I get your point that they (in some way) served and died for the symbol depicted on their tombstone, but that still doesn’t mean that we should somehow perpetuate that hateful symbol.  Let’s try an example…  Should we have (if possible) assembled the remains of one or more of the 9/11 terrorists (or any other deceased on American soil Al Qaeda member) and placed them in a VA cemetery with an Al Qaeda (or ISIS) emblem or banner because that’s what they fought and died for?  Next to the graves of real American heroes who fought against them?  Maybe we should’ve done that with OBL himself, since we had his body?
I really don’t see any difference.  Be they foot soldiers or senior officers, if they were fighting under the Swastika, they were enemy racists responsible for the most hideous genocide and destruction of the century, millenium, or ALL of history.  To “honor” their service by putting that hateful symbol among the graves of our heroes (especially Jewish heroes) is incomprehensible to me.
So, what should we do?  Frankly, we should exhume the bodies and send the caskets and remains back to Germany to let them handle the issue.  If that can’t happen, then we should replace the headstones with ones that contain simple statements of name, rank, date, and a generic “German Soldier” or “German Prisoner” or similar.  Again, if the German government doesn’t like that, then they can retrieve the remains at their cost.  None of these actions would DIShonor these soldiers.
Thanks for you note.
M France
Brig Gen (USAF)
MRFF Advisory Board 

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Martin France
Now, (name withheld), let me add something else…  Think about this.  While we were “honoring” the service of these German POWs to their Swastika-symbolized racist state, we were IMPRISONING fully-fledged American citizens in camps on the West Coast because of their ethnic heritage.  I’m also embarrassed to know that my nation not only held German POWs in American camps, but often hosted those same prisoners in ethnic-German churches in communities around the US (e.g., near Greeley CO) and German officers were hosted for “teas” with the local ladies.
Cheers,

 

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3 Comments

  1. A.L. Hern

    Many, if not most, of those defending the Nazi iconography and text on the gravestones cite “history” as their motivation. But absent context, historical artifacts are meaningless and not history at all.

    Were the three German soldiers’ gravestones to be replaced with ones with historically accurate inscriptions, the text might read something like this:

    Here lies Alfred P. Kafka, who, enthusiastically or not, died advancing the cause of a regime that murdered millions of innocent people for no reason other than their religion or nationality or because they happened to live on a piece of land that his government coveted, and who has, in spite of all that, been accorded the privilege of resting beside the very American soldiers who ended his life engaged in a crusade to end the tyranny that Kafka served. American soldiers who likely would be horrified were they alive to know they are condemned to share for eternity this consecrated earth with a man who tried to murder them to further the imagined glory of Adolf Hitler.

  2. Grey One talks sass

    My feelings for this issue have evolved. While I’m still in the post a sign to educate the future camp the arguments presented on moving the stones are convincing.

    I guess I am not my most logical self when it comes to Nazis. Better minds will make this decision which, for me, is emotionally charged. I’m stepping away from the debate and await what unfolds.

  3. Lawrence Lawson

    I found it interesting that the sentence was written THIS way: Over the years, Ravi and I rarely agreed on most matters of HIS version of the Christian faith…

    and not THIS way: Over the years, Ravi and I rarely agreed on most matters of MY version of the Christian faith…

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