Pathetic crap

Trample on service members religious rights to appease others.

Apparently you just don’t understand what freedom is.
I served not so that others can think as I do but so they can think and believe what they wish.
I never thought for one second to infringe on another service religious freedoms by denying them the courtesy of listening to a speech or worshipping how the wish.
I know this is falling on deaf ears but I hope it is said by many others that feel as I do.
You should change your name  Military Freedom Destruction League.

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Mike  wrote:
Mr. (name withheld),
We’re  quite clear about freedom, thanks. If you’d take off the blinders and lose a bit of your
undeserved and inappropriate arrogance, you might realize that the separation of church and
state is part of the legal fabric of this land. Further, you might comprehend that military regulations
maintaining that religious observances are limited to a proper “tiime, place and manner” out of
respect to that very premise.
No one here is denying anyone the “courtesy of listening to a speech,” we are ;maintaining that
servicemen and women need not be required to attend a training at which they are taught the
virtues of a certain religious persuasion because that crosses the line mentioned above.
The only deaf ears in this discussion, sir, are your own.
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)

Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere
On Jul 21, 2020, at 5:10 PM, John Compere  wrote:
Thank you for your past military service.
 
For your information, the US Constitution, American law & US Armed Forces regulations prohibit our secular military, as part of our secular government, from officially promoting or endorsing any particular religion. Military chapels are provided for freedom of religious worship & military chaplains are available for freedom of religious instruction for those who want them. Of course, this prohibition includes all mandatory military training. That is why the military itself cancelled the improper & unlawful training after being notified of complaints from those required to attend.
 
Your condemnation is misdirected & should be redirected at those who disrespect & disregard the laws, regulations & freedom of every military man & women to determine, enjoy & practice their own beliefs.
 
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (composed of over 80% Christians)

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3 Comments

  1. Matthew Ronchetti

    The MRFF is disgusting. The United States was founded on religious principles by religious men. The first Bible printed in English in America was printed by Congress and recommend as the edition for use in schools. There are thousands of references to God and scripture in speech after speech in the early days of our nation by Congressmen and Presidents.

    There is no law greater that God’s law. His is final. You have so perverted the First Amendment to mean freedom from religion, rather than freedom of religion. The government exists to protect every American’s Right to practice their religion as they see fit. This is a clear attempt to persecute a man for his faith. You should be ashamed and disgusted with your hatred for men of God.

    As for your claim of separation of church and state, atheists such as yourselves, love to quote Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists, but only the “wall of separation between church and state.” In context, Jefferson was assuring them that the government would not interfere with them exercising their beliefs.

    Government and Religion are two separate entities, and every government official should be able to pray, practice their religion, use their religious beliefs as the basis for their decisions. Men are not so easily swayed, as to be evangelized by hearing the word of God. I can only imagine the peace and harmony that would grace this country if every citizen embraced the teachings of Jesus. God forbid a Solider or student accidentally sees the Ten Commandments in a government building and be influenced by them.

    I wish you nothing but the best. God bless you all, and have a blessed day.

  2. Grey One Talks Sass

    Wow, Matthew Ronchetti, I didn’t know how to respond to your comment until I found this tidbit –

    “I can only imagine the peace and harmony that would grace this country if every citizen embraced the teachings of Jesus.”

    Um, sweetie, I don’t know how to break it to you but Christians existed in the majority and held the reigns of power for more than two hundred years here in the USA. You don’t have to imagine. We are living it now.

    This next bit of yours is a flag for me – you said “God forbid a Solider or student accidentally sees the Ten Commandments in a government building and be influenced by them.”

    Please explain how the Ten Commandments displayed in the Public Square (which most Christianists don’t even follow) is not government endorsed religion? Or are you advocating the placement of other codes of conduct to inspire the yutes of today?

    What a wonderful idea. I suggest installing the Baphomet statue the Satanists endorse as their code is a helpful guide in today’s troubling times.

    Or is that not what you were suggesting at all?

    (This is my shocked face when I learn from Matthew that all other faiths or lack of faith are an abomination.)

  3. G

    Mr. Ronchetti:

    If God’s word is final, then why do we human beings have to issues a wide variety of laws regulating drugs, housing, labor, sanitation, various crimes including murder, etc?

    There is no evidence that the USA and the Constitution were founded on religious principles and the Bible.

    “Men are not so easily swayed, as to be evangelized by hearing the word of God. I can only imagine the peace and harmony that would grace this country if every citizen embraced the teachings of Jesus.”

    Oh people get easily swayed by constant systematic indoctrination whether at an early age or in old age. We forced the Native Americans to embrace Jesus and look at where it has gotten them.

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