"WHAT'S NEXT" — MRFF Advisory Board Members Marty France and Lawrence Wilkerson, MRFF Board Member John Compere, and Mikey Weinstein respond to detractor

Published On: April 10, 2021|Categories: MRFF's Inbox, Top News|7 Comments|
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Mikey,

Five months have past since you worked over a few gravestones for “religious” freedom.

What can you do for an encore?

Maybe you can con the government into digging those graves up and inspecting the remains to insure that they were buried with no offending (to You) items.

I will send you a shovel.

Your greatest admirer in Saint Augustine,

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF Founder and President Mikey Weinstein

You seem to be upset about something, little sport?… I think you need to be a little more specific…Not your greatest admirer in New Mexico…And probably not a great idea to tell me you’re going to buy me something and send it to me in the mail…
Mikey Weinstein

Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Marty France
(name withheld), you bring up an interesting point, albeit unintentionally, that makes me think a little. I’ve visited the US cemetery at Omaha Beach twice in my life–both very moving experiences. One thing that struck me is that ALL of the grave markers are religious. It was just assumed that all of the dead buried there were Christian or Jewish as you can’t find a gravestone there that isn’t marked in one of those two ways. Fortunately, at places like Arlington and other national cemeteries in the US, almost all have gravestones that don’t overtly show a religious symbol but rather they’re engraved on the standard headstone.
I bring this up because I’m an atheist. If I were killed in battle and the headstone placed above my grave was a cross because I appeared to be a white American with a non-Jewish-sounding name, then I would EXPECT my family to object. I would EXPECT them to dig up my grave and put my remains somewhere else under a gravestone that accurately reflected my beliefs when I was alive. I also would not want to be buried in a cemetery in which a trademarked symbol of my service was clearly attached to a Christian-only message that implied that Jesus had died for our citizens as had I (and others). I just don’t believe that myth personally and wouldn’t want to be associated with it–it’s unconstitutional to assume that I should. (if this doesn’t ring a bell, Google “MRFF Monument Colorado Cemetery”)
What the MRFF does is protect those from being ASSUMED to be something that they are not. They protect members of the military from the damaging and insulting and disrespectful and unconstitutional expectations that they may be something they are not. They protect our rights to free speech and to worship or not as we so choose.
So, should the MRFF call for the protection of the rights of all military members as well as the rights of their descendants? Yes! Should they stop the government from advertising and endorsing hateful symbols that oppress others? Yes.
And I’m glad they do.
Thanks for writing and making me think about this a little today. Have a very scientific day!
Marty France, PhD
Brigadier General, USAF (Retired)
MRFF Advisory Board Member


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Larry Wilkerson
(name withheld), whatever your name and game are, let me say that we welcome your non-profane, non-obscene, non-I-wouldn’t-know-a-gramatically-sound-English-sentence-were-it-to-hit-me-in-the-face email.  So different from what we get from the standard brainless Fundamentalists we usually hear from.  Thanks for that.
But your critical analytical prowess leaves a bit to be desired.   Since you used the plural, i.e., “gravestones”, I must assume you mean the ones with nazi swastikas. If you have a problem with their removal, after protests from people who had others buried near them, some of the Jewish faith, you must be an anti-Semite at root. Please allow us to inform you we have no truck for people like you in that regard.
Incidentally, if we are correct in that last assessment, as an encore–which you request–we might consider rooting you out and reporting on your heinous predisposition to prejudice of that sort.
As for sending us a shovel, please do so but ensure you pay the postage. We’ll use it at a suitable graveside ceremony where we bury your email in the dust and dirt where it belongs.
Yours Truly,
Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson
USA (Ret)


Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere

Your sarcastic & sanctimonious sermonizing is morally misdirected. It would be more righteously & rationally redirected at those adults who lacked the integrity & intelligence to advise a well-intended young Eagle Scout his project could not be placed on government owned & operated property as government endorsed because it was unlawful & violated the US Constitution, American law & Department of Defense regulatory directives. Loyal & law-abiding Americans respect the Constitution, obey laws & teach our children to do the same.

The very definition of a republic is “…a nation of laws and not of man.” American Founder & 2nd President John Adams (“Thoughts on Government”, 1776).

Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation (84% Christians)


Melted snow flake,   I am only offering to help supply you with practical tools to help you continue with your interest in messing around in graveyards.
Lighten up, you really are only a legend of great importance in your own mind. I feel like we are friends now… because you did not initiate your standard practice of demeaning the education of those that oppose your point of view.  I have read up on you and I support many  of the things that you represent and I support you in somethings that you oppose. Nevertheless you should have stayed out of my father’s graveyard in San Antonio because you did upset the serenity of his final resting place forever and I had to call you on this. Sorry if opposing views make you feel threatened  but I assumed that you were familiar with the first amendment.

(name withheld)


Response from MRFF’s Founder and President Mikey Weinstein

Listen, Skippy, we have over 73,000 clients and about 600 people work here at the foundation, paid and volunteers… We get a lot of threats every day and night… we are used to it and know how to deal with it… You just violated one of our foundational protocols by telling me that you were going to “mail” something to me…A shovel for Grave-digging?!?!…Your threat has been reported to our legal counsel and to law-enforcement as well as our own MRFF security folks …Think about it, little cream puff… This is your problem not mine…oh, chump, & I think I know a little more about the First Amendment than you do… Unless you would like to tell me which law school you attended and graduated from and how many years you spent In the White House… Now off you go… Aren’t you late for a book burning or something…?


Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
It’s a little hard to follow exactly what your problem is here, but rest assured that those who actually understand what the MRFF is doing are appreciative and supportive of Mikey and the work we do.
It appears you have a personal beef and that’s not something we can help with, sorry to say. Clearly our work doesn’t sit well with some, but most people who understand the concept of the separation of church and state get it. Of course for some who want to make the U.S. a Christian nation that’s a problem, but for most others, while often necessitating a bit of education, it’s not.
For you, it sounds like an old wound that hasn’t fully healed. I hope time helps.
Best,
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)


 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 

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  1. Grey One Talks Sass April 10, 2021 at 8:11 am

    In my opinion there can be no tolerance for an ideology which exists only to exterminate anyone the ideology deems worthy of death.
    Or, in Captain Dummy Talk (HT Firefly), if one half of the occupants sitting at a bargaining table demands the other half die, both halves are not the same.
    There are no redeeming qualities of Nazis. I’ve looked. None. To disagree with this fact is to defend Nazis and their killing ways.
    If the letter writer was so concerned about their relatives peace in the after life why didn’t they reconsecrate the cemetery after the Nazi symbols were removed?
    No – like a spoiled child who won’t take responsibility for their own life they blame another for doing the correct thing. Seems Nazi-ish to me.

  2. Lisa Palmer Fleming April 11, 2021 at 1:38 pm

    Thank you for all you do to defend and protect the constitution and the rights of all who serve. I am the daughter of TechSgt Vincent Palmer, engineer with a B24 flight crew with the 466th HB Group of the 8th Army AF, based at Attlebridge, England. He would approve and would support you.

  3. Patriot Pastor April 15, 2021 at 10:10 am

    I am sorry you are an atheist Marty, but better enjoy this life while you can, once you are dead, hell will not be a fun place to be for you for all eternity. Satan is preparing your accomodations for you as I type. However, there is one way this will not happen, and that is by accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

  4. Ironmoped April 15, 2021 at 1:49 pm

    Sounds like a celestial North Korea to me. Accept me as your Lord and Savior…….. or else!

  5. Sage on the Hudson April 15, 2021 at 5:46 pm

    “Patriot Pastor”?
    I have news for you: just as you can’t simply appoint yourself as a member of the clergy, you also can’t proclaim yourself a patriot. That’s for others, who’re reasonably objective and not given to lauding those whose politics they just may share, to do.
    All you’ve served to do is paint yourself as one who doesn’t hesitate to pat himself on the back for virtues real or imagined. In this case, it seems entirely the latter.

  6. G April 16, 2021 at 4:38 pm

    Patriot Pastor
    The Calvinists believe that God gave us a predestined plan and nothing can change it. If that was true, then why bother to be brought on this planet if some of us are going to Hades anyway. Seems to be a waste of time bringing someone into this world if God was going to send you to hell while saying that he loves you.

  7. ironmoped May 24, 2021 at 4:04 am

    To PP,
    So……you do understand evolution! And are actually beginning to make sense! Good for you!
    You’ve answered your own questions:
    1. You were not “brought” on this planet.
    2. There is no Hell, otherwise it would be a complete waste of time.
    3. There is no predisposition from God for some going to Hades – see No. 2!
    4. God really is a sadist, by your own admission, if you believe! You said it yourself – He sends you to Hell while telling you he loves you?
    So….just a bit more extrapolation and you’ll have it!
    It’s ALL made up! ALL of it! A complete fiction! You’re almost there!

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