From: (name withheld)
Date: September 10, 2023 at 10:06:57 AM PDT
To: [email protected]
Subject: Activist wants ‘unconstitutional’ Christian bookstore off this base
There is only one God – and he knows who you are
Get a life and do something good instead of woke shit
Response from MRFF Founder and President Mikey Weinstein
Date: September 10, 2023 at 10:15:36 AM PDT
To: (name withheld)
Subject:Re: Activist wants ‘unconstitutional’ Christian bookstore off this base
Our clients are pretty happy with what we’re doing now little fellow…
Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member James Currie
Dear (name withheld),
I have been asked by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) to respond to your recent email, which would come across to any reasonable person as a threat that you are invoking from a deity that you don’t control. There are so many things wrong with your little two-line missive.
First of all, how do you know what your god knows? Does he/she communicate directly with you? If you actually believe they do, then you are probably suffering from a treatable form of psychosis, and my personal, non-medical suggestion, is that you obtain psychological help, and do so quickly.
Second, the position taken by MRFF as to whether a Christian bookstore should be operating from within a military exchange has nothing to do with anyone’s personal religious beliefs and everything to do with the First Amendment to the US Constitution, which forbids “respecting an establishment of religion.” That’s what this is all about: an establishment of religion. Maybe you do not understand it, but US military forces have chaplaincies which are organized and regulated by the military services. They serve the spiritual needs of the military servicemembers because doing so enhances the preparedness of these forces. Having a so-called “Christian bookstore” operating under the auspices of the military exchange system is not part of these chaplaincies and has no right to operate there. I pose this question to you, Mr. Boyd. How would you respond if instead of a Christian bookstore, it were a Satanic bookstore that had opened in this exchange? Would you be so favorable toward such a development? Would you think that Satan—presumably you believe that Satan exists—also “knows who you are” and presumably has the power to do something bad to you? My guess is that you would not be so sanguine if such were to occur.
MRFF exists to defend the religious freedom of belief of everyone serving in the US military. MRFF does not care whether you are Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Jain, any other religion or no religion. What it stands for and what it defends every day of the year is the right of every servicemember to be free from proselytizing on the part of their military superiors, and such freedom applies to freedom from religious propaganda bombarding them from officially-endorsed venues like exchanges. That’s what this is about, and insults and poorly-worded threats from individuals like you will not deter MRFF from carrying out its stated mission.
Col. James T. Currie, USA (Ret.), Ph.D.
Board of Advisors, Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Response from MRFF Board Member John Compere
On Sep 10, 2023, at 4:06 PM, John Compere wrote:
Your asinine, acrimonious and arrogant attack against an American military veteran you do not even know reflects only on yourself and reveals only your own ignorance regarding the United States Constitution prohibition against the endorsement of any religion on American military bases except in military chapels.
Intelligent believers learn very early to respect someone who sincerely speaks about God (preaching) or someone who sincerely speaks to God (praying) but not someone who sanctimoniously speaks for God because only God can speak for God.
Matthew 6:1 & 7:1&2, Luke 6:37, and Romans 2:1 are recommended for your reading and reflection.
Brigadier General John Compere, US Army (Retired)
Disabled American Veteran (Vietnam Era)
Board Member, Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Mike Farrell
On Sep 10, 2023, at 6:14 PM, Mike wrote:
Hi Mr. (name withheld)
Mikey gets a lot of email from people who don’t or won’t understand what the purpose and value of the work of the MRFF is. Sometimes, when they’re particularly obscene or mean or stupid he shares them with me.
I guess in your case, the arrogance and self-satisfaction, combined with the utter ignorance you display, made it noteworthy for him.
For me, the fact that you were apparently so wounded by something we’ve said or done that you were moved to parade your fear and weakness in such an obvious way is simply pathetic.
(MRFF Board of Advisors)
Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Martin France
On Sep 10, 2023, at 10:10 PM, Martin France wrote:
Dear (name withheld), thanks for your kind, eloquent note. We at the MRFF always appreciate well-reasoned counterarguments to the issues with which we engage. Sadly, yours isn’t one of them.
While you may be convinced that there is only one god, billions of others (supposedly created in your god’s image) would disagree profoundly. In fact, many millions have never even heard of your god. My reading (and I’ve read your favorite religious text cover-to-cover) suggests, nay commands, that they will all be condemned to some sort of eternal torture in reward for their ignorance or denial. So much for a merciful deity…
But I digress. (name withheld), let’s focus on the main issue here. We live in the US of A, a land whose government and the civil rights of its citizens are defined in the US Constitution. That document doesn’t mention your god or any other deity. It does, however, state quite clearly that the government shall make no law establishing any religion as an official state belief, not should it show preference for one religion over another or no religion at all. It also states that there can be no religious test for those holding public office or government position. You see, our Constitution doesn’t recognize (nor does it deny) your one god.
What does that mean for a military PX? It means that there can’t be, on government property, a commercial business that serves only one religious view. Likewise, even the base/post chapel must be accessible to all religions and even open to the non-religious. I know because I’ve tested that and spent some non-religious time in base chapels. Sometimes, I even participated in what some would call sinful behavior there. It was fun, though, and not illegal, so the government couldn’t do anything to me.
I know the above is a lot to think about, but please try.
Now, as for the “woke” thing… please tell me how you define the term. Here’s my personal definition:
Adj., the characteristic of showing empathy for fellow humans regardless of their race, sex, religion, identity, background, or personal and private preferences; also the trait of recognizing that others may not have enjoyed the same levels of privilege and opportunity and that such disadvantage should be remedied so that all have an equal opportunity to pursue life, liberty, happiness, and really good craft beer.
I try to be woke. I would take someone calling me woke as a compliment. So, thanks, (name withheld)!
If you think “woke” is “shit” then I can only conclude that you don’t like craft beer and don’t treat your fellow human as your one god commands–that you aren’t merciful, forgiving, or willing to love thine enemy or walk a mile in another human’s preferred footwear. Not very Christian of you, (name withheld). You can take solace in the fact, though, that I personally forgive you and know that you can change, grow, learn, and ultimately become more human, Christ-like, and woke. If that’s the case, then I’ll gladly buy you a craft beer to enjoy when/if we can ever arrange a meeting.
Until then, dearest (name withheld), stay woke, my friend!
Brigadier General, USAFA (Retired)
MRFF Advisory Board Member
Response from MRFF Advisory Board Member Marty France
On Sep 13, 2023, at 12:05 AM, Martin France <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey, Donald! Any response? Pussy got your tongue? What say you, Mr “One True God”? Cheers, Marty