Mikey Weinstein
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This post was created on the previous version of the MRFF website, and may not be fully accessible to users of assistive technology. If you need help accessing this content, please reach out via email.This email is meant for Mikey ( although I find it strange that an older man would even want to be called Mikey- does this mean that he feels and thinks like a child, at heart?)
I recently read that the Air Force has finally decided that they had had enough of Mikey Weinstein
( After years of dealing with the bullying antics of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, the Air Force is finally grounding anti-Christian activist Mikey Weinstein.) This could not have happened to a nicer man child.
So much “hate” from such a small man. I don’t hate Michael Weinstein, I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU, MICHAEL WEINSTEIN. What really surprises me is that you claim to be so intelligent (Michael L. “Mikey” Weinstein is an attorney, businessman, and former United States Air Force officer) yet you let some individuals affect your life to the point of “hating all Christians” just because some immature jerks treated your sons at an Academy in a unChristian manner. My goodness, if I let every person’s opinions or harsh words affect the rest of my life, then I would be in sad shape.
“Weinstein says that both his sons were exposed to Christian proselytizing at the Academy. In the case of his younger son Curtis, he reported that it included anti-Semitic language and being asked “how it felt to kill Jesus”. His older son Casey, a 2004 Academy graduate, alleged that “Senior cadets would sit down and say, ‘How do you feel about the fact that your family is going to burn in hell?'”.[6] Weinstein wrote in his autobiography:[7]
It is naturally of great personal consequence that Curtis’s and Casey’s encounters with religious bigotry occurred at the Academy, which is where I first encountered it as well. Of course, from a historical perspective, Jews have always had the unfortunate role of scapegoat thrust upon them. But I’m under no illusions that what happened to my Jewish sons and my Christian daughter-in-law could not have happened to the son of a patriotic American Muslim or Buddhist or agnostic or atheist. I wouldn’t be surprised if it already had.” Its too bad that this happened, but that was so many years ago, one would think that its time for Mr. Weinstein to grow up and get “over it”.
Hopefully Weinstein, you will seek mental help, which you desperately need to help you cope with every day life. Its sad to go thru life with so much “hate”, and pretend to be a happy person.
You are far too old Mr. Weinstein to keep holding on to old grudges……hopefully you did not pass on your “sick hatred” to your sons, otherwise they will have to join you in your mental health counseling sessions.
In closing, I found this in Wikipedia : Weinstein responded in a Newsletter to his audience, noting that Savage’s “stupefying rant” was “a rabidly ad-hominem, personal assault… which should serve as a particularly revealing clue as to the psychological state of this specimen, a professional bottom-feeding hyena who earns his daily bread by foaming at the mouth and spreading extremist hysteria which he likely doesn’t even believe himself.”
Wow, this coming from a man who claims to be normal, but continues to “rant” like a ‘rabidly ad-hominem” and talk about “revealing clue as to the psychological state of mind”—its as though you are talking about yourself, Weinstein. You are more fortunate then others ( who can not afford the best mental help that is available) but with your salary I’m sure that you can find the best psychiatrists that can cure your ‘hatred’ and possibly cure whatever mental disease you might have. My sympathy to your wife and sons.
(name withheld)
Dear (name withheld),
A registered Republican, he also spent over three years working in, and for, the West Wing of the Reagan Administration as legal counsel in the White House. In his final position there, Mikey was named the Committee Management Officer of the much-publicized Iran-Contra Investigation in his capacity as Assistant General Counsel of The White House Office of Administration, Executive Office of the President of the United States. Mikey has held numerous positions in corporate America as a senior executive businessman and attorney.
After stints at prominent law firms in both New York City and Washington D.C., Mikey served as the first General Counsel to Texas billionaire and two-time Presidential candidate H. Ross Perot and Perot Systems Corporation. He left Mr. Perot’s employ in 2006 to focus his fulltime attention on the nonprofit charitable foundation he founded to directly battle the far-right militant radical evangelical religious fundamentalists: the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. (http://www.
If this makes him unintelligent in your eyes then your IQ must be in the single digits.
And, where in the world did you get the idea that we hate all Christians? From the RWNJ websites?
How about going here and see what we really stand for:
http://www.
The reason it seems we are attacking Christians in the military is because they are the ONLY ones overstepping the bounds of the Constitution, case law and the UCMJ.
This email is meant for Mikey ( although I find it strange that an older man would even want to be called Mikey- does this mean that he feels and thinks like a child, at heart?)
I recently read that the Air Force has finally decided that they had had enough of Mikey Weinstein( After years of dealing with the bullying antics of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, the Air Force is finally grounding anti-Christian activist Mikey Weinstein.) This could not have happened to a nicer man child.
So much “hate” from such a small man. I don’t hate Michael Weinstein, I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU, MICHAEL WEINSTEIN.
What really surprises me is that you claim to be so intelligent (Michael L. “Mikey” Weinstein is an attorney, businessman, and former United States Air Force officer) yet you let some individuals affect your life to the point of “hating all Christians” just because some immature jerks treated your sons at an Academy in a unChristian manner. My goodness, if I let every person’s opinions or harsh words affect the rest of my life, then I would be in sad shape.
Its too bad that this happened, but that was so many years ago, one would think that its time for Mr. Weinstein to grow up and get “over it”.
No. That’s amazingly juvenile and patronizing. Grown ups do not “get over” having their inalienable rights taken away from them. Grown ups stand up and fight, ensuring that no one else has to go through the same issues they went through. Grown ups fight to ensure they leave the world a better place for their children. It seems that you are the one that needs to look in the mirror for a little self-evaluation and probably needs to “grow up” a bit, yourself.
Hopefully Weinstein, you will seek mental help, which you desperately need to help you cope with every day life. Its sad to go thru life with so much “hate”, and pretend to be a happy person.You are far too old Mr. Weinstein to keep holding on to old grudges……hopefully you did not pass on your “sick hatred” to your sons, otherwise they will have to join you in your mental health counseling sessions.
I think I’ve illustrated above that this is not about “grudges”. It’s about freedom, equality, openness, inclusion, and against bigotry. If that qualifies Mikey for the looney bin, well then sign me up!
My sympathy to your wife and sons.
Paul Loebe
Special Projects Manager
Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Chicago, IL
This email is meant for (name withheld) (although I find it strange that an older woman would spell (name withheld) with a k. Does this mean she feels and thinks like a child?) Actually I’d say that a person’s name is more the result of what those close to them have called them throughout their lives. What is more telling of a childish heart or mind is making overreaching assumptions about the personal lives of total strangers.
You’ve shared several quotes by Mikey along with a few bullet points from his life, but have you met him? I’m willing to venture the answer is no. I’m not particularly advanced in age, but I have had the opportunity to spend enough time on a personal level with several public figures to learn what should be an obvious lesson: the complexities of their lives can’t be distilled into sound bytes and paragraph long factoids.
Here’s a story about my first time meeting Mikey myself. While I was a cadet at West Point I invited Mikey to visit a club there that I presided over at the time. Having heard about his bullish persona I admit I was intimidated. I expected him to be every bit as gruff as he’d been portrayed in the media. It wasn’t long at all after picking him up from LaGuardia international airport however that we were jamming out to some heavy metal and making jokes about one thing or another on the hour long drive to the academy. I learned that he was, personally, an ordinary person very quickly. Certainly not hateful or difficult to be around.
Later on I had the opportunity to spend time with him and his family in Albuquerque. Getting to know him better over time I saw the love that he has for his close family and even for people outside his family. That said, his concern for others is strong enough that he will do whatever he must and is able to do to defend their rights. To defend my rights. What you’ve mistaken for hate is more accurately described as very proactive love. Yes, he is tough when it comes to defending others. But who wouldn’t be when their family is threatened? And what more venerable quality is there than treating even strangers with as high regard as family?
I won’t assume that you are a woman child. We haven’t met. I can assume that you have had a different set of experiences, that you read Breitbart regularly, and that you frequently spend time with people who leave your beliefs unchallenged. If you want to go out into the world parroting the messages broadcast by right wing entertainment programs like Fox, you’ll be closing yourself off from reality. That’s your choice.
It was definitely Jesus’ plan for his followers to represent him by pretending to know what goes on in other’s minds and make attempts at insulting them though. At least that’s what his followers and yourself have shown me by their actions.
Cheers,
Blake A. Page
Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Special Assistant to the President
Director of US Army Affairs
Hi (name withheld),Mikey is pretty busy protecting the freedom of religious belief of the women and men in our military, so I thought I’d try to step in on his behalf and attempt to clarify things. I hope you don’t mind.
It’s too bad there is so much misinformation flying about, because it stirs up people’s emotions and provides opportunities for some to launch attacks, in this case against Mikey and the MRFF, when they really don’t have the facts.
If you will, let me explain a couple of things.
Mikey is, as you seem to be aware, the founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and its primary spokesperson. The MRFF’s website very clearly spells out its mission and if you were to read it you’d understand that, contrary to what you’ve been led to believe, we do not oppose anyone’s faith or belief system. Our goal is to protect the right of everyone in the military to believe as she or he chooses.
Now please note I’ve said “in the military.” Pretty much everyone in America understands that different people have different belief systems and some of them involve what is called evangelizing or trying to promote one’s own belief. As Americans we recognize those rights and also recognize our own right to say ‘no thanks’ if someone – say a scientologist or some other fervent believer – gets in our personal space or otherwise goes too far.
But you see, in the military it’s not so easy. In the military, which is a powerfully hierarchical organization, if an officer or non-com or someone in a position of authority over you wants to push her or his deeply held belief and it’s wrong for you, or it makes you uncomfortable, or it offends your own belief system, it can cause big problems if you say ‘no thanks.’ It can mean loss of a promotion, loss of a job, being discriminated against in many different ways, having a promising career ruined, you name it.
So for that reason alone there can or should be no religious proselytizing in the military. And that comes down from the top, because the military is part of our government and our government, based on our constitution and its extension in the laws of our land, specifically says there can be no overt or inferred preference shown for one form of belief over another.
That’s really what the freedom of religion is all about. You’re free to believe or not believe, as you choose, and, at least ideally, no one can discriminate against you or cause harm or create problems for you because of your chosen belief.
Now we know, given the various forms of bias in our society, that this is an aspiration that is too often not achieved, but we work at it. However, in work associated with the government, it is an absolute requirement.
And protecting servicewomen and men from those who don’t honor that requirement is what the MRFF is about. That’s all.
So you see, all the misinformation that’s out there about the MRFF and Mikey being anti-Christian, for example, is simply false. The claim that Mikey is an atheist is false.
The problem arises from the fact that of all the religions in existence, most Americans consider themselves Christian in some form, so when it is a form of Christian proselytizing that is causing problems for some of our servicewomen and men and the MRFF responds to their calls and takes action, some of the more zealous Christians spread the word that Mikey or the MRFF is anti-Christian. Not so.
But when the MRFF took action against an officer who was attempting to inculcate his atheist belief system on those in his command, no one complained. Interesting, huh?
The hard part for some to get is that there is a sect of Christianity known as dominionism that insists it is the one and only true faith and everyone who doesn’t follow them and believe as they do, even those of other Christian beliefs, is damned and doomed to hell. And they are very zealous, sometimes very intimidating, and in my own view very un-Chrisitian, in the way in which they try to frighten and manipulate people. But they can be very slick and sometimes very clever at broadcasting the alarm that opposing their methods makes us anti-Christian.
This fundamentalist, my-way-or-the-highway belief system cannot, no matter how strongly their belief that they are right, be allowed to insist itself into the military or any part of our government. They are certainly welcome to their belief and they can propagate it in chapel or church or between themselves, but they have to respect the separation of church and state as established in our laws.
So you see, it’s very frustrating when you or some of your apparently well-meaning friends fall into the trap of believing the nonsense put out about Mikey Weinstein and the MRFF. Over 95% of the members and supporters of the MRFF are Christians. The difference is they are Christians who understand and honor the freedom of religion and the separation of church and state. They understand and respect the fact that the right of others to have different belief systems is one of the basic strengths of this country of ours.
I hope this helps. And, if you will, I hope you’ll share this message with some of those with whom you’re in touch who might have been misled by the nonsense that’s flying around out there about Mikey and the MRFF.
Thanks.
Mike Farrell
(MRFF Board of Advisors)
Hello (name withheld) –
Mikey has read your email and asked if I would be interested in sending you a note. I’m a Christian, USAF Academy graduate, and Air Force veteran who supports the MRFF in a variety of ways.
First, I’m not sure why you find Mikey’s nickname to be “strange”. Among my adult male friends and acquaintances over the years, I’ve know a Vinny, a Kenny, a Louie, a Petey, and one other Mikey. So to tease him about his nickname makes no more sense than it does to tease someone about an odd spelling of their name. In any case, take it from someone who knows Mikey fairly well — he is an intelligent, mature, and honorable man who willingly accepts a tremendous amount of abuse because of his belief about the importance of Constitutional protections that are owed to all members of the US military.
It’s important to note that it is that simple belief in Constitutional rights that motivates Mikey and all of us at the MRFF — not hatred, not because of mere opinions, not because of harsh words. The inappropriate treatment that his sons experienced at USAFA may have triggered the creation of the MRFF, but it’s not the driving force today. Sadly, their experiences are not unique, as the same sort of inappropriate religious proselytizing and favoritism continues to occur in today’s military.
So there is no need to feel sorry for Mikey, or to offer sympathy to his family. If you want to extend your sympathy to someone who needs it, I’d suggest that you look to those among our fellow Christians who feel that their own religious beliefs should prevail over those of other citizens and in our governmental and military establishments, and even at the expense of the Constitutional rights of others. From where I stand, those are the truly sad people because they have zero understanding of what “religious liberty” in American really means.
Peace,
Mike Challman
Christian, USAF veteran, MRFF supporter
Dear (name withheld),
You speak of critically holding on to old grudges but what about remembering such inhumane events as the Holocaust, religious wars that raged for centuries killing millions and the discrimination against women so dreadfully prosecuted by religious leaders of all faiths? We must remember those in order to try and prevent them from ever recurring.
Mr. Weinstein does not hate Christians but rather attempts to ameliorate what some Christians do to other Christians. This especially in the Armed Forces where it is critical to have a united front.
There is quite a difference between “hating Christians” and trying to assist in bringing them and other factions closer together through logic, reason and evidence.
Can you believe that in some African nations which have been steadily and forcefully proselytized by Dominionist Christian Missionaries there are still occurance’s of burning at the stake, decapitation, crucifixion and other vile punishments for disobeying strict Christian Law?
In any case Mr. Weinstein will continue, as successfully as he has in the past, to pursue those who use religion as a weapon and defile it’s original purpose.
I hope I have been successful in explaining MRFF’s goals and Mr. Weinstein’s actions. Please visit our web site at militaryreligiousfreedom.org for more information.
Rick Baker
Capt. USAF (Med Ret)
MRFF Volunteer
Thanks again for the ‘laugh’ and have a good day. Please don’t feel that ‘you’ have to respond to this email since I hardly ever use my google email account ( as you can tell from the date of my response to your reply).
Goodbye!
(name withheld)
I’m sure you did “choice” to spell your name that way after as much deliberation as you apply to every line of gibberish you’ve sent us. (name withheld), I truly do pity people like you who are so lacking in education and simultaneously stalwart in their opinions. I’m sure it’s an uncomfortable “place” to “be”. Then again I’ve “heard” that ignorance “is” bliss. Being able to shout “nuh-uh! You’re wrong!” and believe it to be a sound rebuttal in a contentious conversation must make life simple for you.
-Blake
p.s.- while I do hope the subtext of my message was accessible to you, you might need to seek help from one of your more studious acquaintances in reading it, or you’ll miss the key points. It was a soft pitch, but I believe it may still have passed over your head
All I can say to your gibberish is “FUCK YOU”!
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Aside from commenting on the letter and the answers, it would make a very interesting article if Paul Loebe would write a little about how he came to change his mind so dramatically. It seems he made a 180 degree turn-around. Changes in belief systems are not an easy or comfortable process and usually takes years. Since he writes so well I’d be interested in reading his story.
I found this statement by Akiva David Miller very interesting -“This of course is the same way radical Christian fundamentalists as well as radical Islamic fundamentalists treat victims of sexual crimes too: they attack and blame the victims.” Where does he get the idea that Christians attack and blame victims of sexual crimes?? Can he site a specific case where this has happened, if he cannot I would request he detract this statement!
Hmm, I think Akiva David Miller has already discredited himself in the past after he was exposed by Christian Fighter Pilot – “In April of 2010, Akiva David Miller — also of the MRFF — wrote a letter to the MRFF complaining about religious symbolism in NASCAR. Again, a member of the MRFF was writing a public letter to the MRFF — all for public show.”
I think the original writer of this letter has a point here about Mr. Weinstein as evidenced in an article that Christian Fighter Pilot wrote, seems that Mr. Weinstein is also a charlatan and a deceiver as well. http://christianfighterpilot.com/blog/2010/04/21/mrff-seeks-cause-to-litigate-agitate-and-ice-cream/
Yeshua Warrior said “Where does he get the idea that Christians attack and blame victims of sexual crimes?? Can he site a specific case where this has happened, if he cannot I would request he detract this statement!”
I read your statement three times, then took my dog for a walk. I ate dinner. I looked at the news. I waited until I could answer you without wanting to smack the priviledge off of your smirky face.
Specific cases? You know what you excuse for a human? If a girl isn’t saying yes – and that means your spouse too – then a mans penis has no business anywhere near a womans vagina or ass or mouth. Are we clear? It goes for same sex too – if someone isn’t saying yes then no one is getting anything.
Asking for specifics… honestly. That’s like standing in the middle of the Mississippi river and asking why you are wet. Are you really that clueless?
PS – I failed. I really want to give you such a Gibbs smack that you find your brains next week. Seriously. Please get some help to get that plank out of your eye.