No Bible

Published On: January 22, 2024|Categories: MRFF's Inbox|6 Comments|

From: (name withheld)
Date: January 21, 2024 at 4:04 PM MST
To: Mikey Weinstein
Subject: No Bible

I work at a VA Hospital for many years. I refuse to wear any red shirt Friday since you are so proud you removed the Bible from the POW/MIA TABLE!  

I love my Veterans but you are one of them!

Response from MRFF Founder and President Mikey Weinstein

From: Mikey Weinstein
Date: January 21, 2024 at 4:12:09 PM MST
To: (name withheld)
Subject: Re: No Bible

I’m sorry, but I don’t understand your reference to wearing a “red shirt“ on Fridays?… And WE did not remove the Bible… We reminded the VA of ITS obligation to follow the United States Constitution‘s  separation of church and state, especially the no establishment clause of the first amendment of the bill of rights as well as following their own  VA regulations… Both of which require removal of the Bible from that particular POW/MIA table… I’m not sure you understand the legal issues involved here?… Mikey Weinstein/MRFF.

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  1. Ironmoped January 23, 2024 at 2:57 pm

    I started wearing a “black shirt” on Fridays because they put a Bible on the missing man table, a very dark day in America when a Bible is allowed to represent the religious beliefs of all who have served in the military! Particularly those killed in action.

    What the fuck is this clown on about?

    Fuck you and the Christian nag you rode in on!

    Christians pray to an impotent God, at best! Why would you let yourself be caught up in the fictional mythology of “worshipping” a magical God that can do nothing for you? If the Christian God was one tenth as powerful as they pretend he is, there’d be no need for a missing man table! Either that or God preferred supporting our enemy! Given the military engagements we’ve been involved in post Korea, I’m going with the latter.

    Little babies literally got their faces shot off in Uvalde, Texas, one little girl identified by her green converse tennis shoes, otherwise completely unrecognizable, shot in the face with an AR15 using hollow-points, and the first thing out of a Christian’s mouth is “thoughts and prayers!”

    What are you praying for? That the families of those babies will understand that it’s all part of God’s plan? But don’t worry, “they’re in a better place!” Never mind they had to lose their precious innocent faces to get there! Really? If it’s that Goddamn good, why don’t you join them?

    The Uvalde shooter (18 years old), bought 1,740 rounds of 75-grain boat tail hollow point rounds online, delivered to his door step just days before the shooting. He bought two AR15s on his 18h birthday. One day shy of his 18th birthday and he wouldn’t have been old enough to buy super glue or aerosol paint! One day later and he graduates, automatically, to instruments of war! But…….”thoughts and prayers!”

    The missing man table doesn’t need a religious book on it. Particularly one that worships an all-powerful God that watches little babies getting their faces blown off or watches clergy members raping little children and does nothing about it!

    The Magical Mystery Tour Christians are on is to missing military members what “thoughts and prayers” are to reality!

  2. Bob January 25, 2024 at 1:25 am

    As a veteran, I firmly stand behind the inclusion of the Bible on the POW table. The Bible represents more than just a religious text; it embodies the resilience, hope, and unwavering faith that have sustained countless individuals in the face of adversity, including prisoners of war. Placing the Bible on the POW table serves as a powerful symbol of the spiritual strength and comfort that many service members have drawn from during their captivity. It honors the sacrifices made by those who have endured unimaginable hardships in service to their country, reminding us of the values and principles that unite us as a nation. The presence of the Bible on the POW table is not about imposing beliefs, but about recognizing and honoring the diverse faith traditions and sources of solace that have helped countless veterans find courage and perseverance in the darkest of times.

  3. Grey One Talks Sass January 25, 2024 at 3:59 am

    Hmmm… Bob may be arrogant and a bit of jerk but now he’s just unimaginative to boot.

    Bob copy/pasted this exact comment In another post. Same topic but that’s not the point. He didn’t interact with the post topic’s nuances or other commentators, just said what he had to say, repeated it and left.

    Apparently the only opinion in the world which matters is Bobs. Bet Bob was a delight when in the service. Well, Christian nationalism was given a free pass, wasn’t it? And we can see how that turned out!

  4. Tom O January 25, 2024 at 9:52 am

    Bob wrote “The presence of the Bible on the POW table is not about imposing beliefs, but about recognizing and honoring the diverse faith traditions and sources of solace that have helped countless veterans find courage and perseverance in the darkest of times.”
    Only in the authoritarians’ alternate universe is the display of ONE RELIGION’s holy book “about recognizing and honoring the diverse faith traditions.”

  5. Jeff January 27, 2024 at 7:41 am

    Grey One and Tom O are correct. There is nothing inclusive about putting a Christian Bible on the display table. To non-Christians, the Christian Bible does not represent resilience, comfort, or strength. And it is a violation of the first amendment.

  6. Ironmoped February 15, 2024 at 10:25 am

    As a veteran, I firmly stand behind REMOVAL of the Bible from the POW table!

    So Bob thinks that all he has to do is mention his “veteran” status and that qualifies everything that comes out of his pie hole.

    Somehow Bob thinks that his magical Bible should represent all veterans. Fuck off! As a “veteran,” I don’t want to be represented by your Bible. It’s an absolutely abhorrent piece of fiction where the protagonist knocks up the 12 year old virgin wife of another man to give us a bastard child-savior to redeem us from a woman (Eve) that condemns us all to an eternal death of fire and brimstone.

    She took from the forbidden tree of knowledge under the guidance of a talking snake, the snake itself being punished by the condemnation of having to sliver on its belly for the rest of its days, which is what it was already doing?

    And Bob wants that story to represent all missing servicemen?

    I have to admit that in the midst of my six deployments into combat zones, I never once thought about a twelve year old virgin and her bastard child!

    There’s no need for religious iconography on any POW/MIA table. It denigrates the service of our military members. It shifts the focus away from their sacrifice to the stolen valor of Christianity.

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