Your cowardice.
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(name withheld)
Sadly, you continue to miss the point. It doesn’t matter who approached whom, the fact is it is wrong for the government to ally itself with a religious faith – any religious faith. If the government had been approached by an Islamic group asking to put a U.S. military insignia on The Koran there is no chance it would have agreed, nor should it have. The same goes for such an approach from the KKK, the Lutherans, the Catholics, the Gnostics, the Theosophists, the Jews, the Scientologists or the adherents of any other belief system.
Our country was founded on the humane values of liberty, equality and justice that underlie most religious and philosophical belief systems. The tenets of a particular religious belief are the business of religious organizations and those who choose to accept them. The freedom to choose one – or none – is fundamental to being an American. The way we protect that freedom is by separating our government, its institutions and its manifestations from an actual or implied endorsement of one over another.
Your wish to elevate Christianity over everything else by entwining it with our government institutions and functions is exactly contrary to both the beliefs and the wishes of the founders.
You are welcome to your beliefs. You are not allowed to shove them down the throat of the men and women of our military.
You misunderstand. The military did not approach the people with the Bible’s and ask them to use the insignia. It was the other way around. The military only said yes you can seeing as how it is government and therefore public property being used by U.S. citizens. So thusly the military was not promoting a religion, the religion was promoting the military. Had a person asked to use the insignia on a Koran they would have had the same rights.
You wish total separation of Church and state. Unfortunately for you the U.S.A. was founded on Judeo-Christian values. And we are thus intertwined with having religion as part of every facet of society.
(name withheld)
Hi (name withheld),
You misunderstand. Freedom of religion is what every American has by birthright. And I know it bothers some
people, but freedom from religion is part of that. No one here is interested in “trampling on the Church,” as you
put it. See, where you’re confused is that what we’re talking about is the separation of church and state. Our military
is part of the government, so it can’t be promoting one religion over another. That’s all.
You’re free to believe anything you want, and “the good Christian people of this country” are free to believe anything
they want. They just can’t be involved in forcing their religion on others who don’t believe the same way they do,
and if they’re in the military they can’t use their authority to proselytize.
It’s actually all pretty simple.
As regards what you call our “little bitch move” (not a Christian phrase, I think), I suspect if the government was involved
in putting the military insignia on the Book of Mormon or the Koran and telling our troops they must go out and convert the
locals, wherever they are, to those belief systems, you’d be unhappy about that. And I wouldn’t blame you.
So see, the thing is the government (and that includes the military) has to simply stay out of the business of promoting
a religion – any religion. That way people can decide for themselves.
As far as your comment about “Marxist buddies is concerned, you’re getting your politics mixed up with your religion. Not
a good idea.
Hope this helps.
Mike Farrell
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Well, you’ve got PART of it right: ONE of the functions of the Constitution is the freedom TO worship. Unfortunately, the OTHER half of the SAME sentence is the freedom to say: Leave me alone. Freedom to worship is not being denied…well except by those of us from the “wrong” religions…including the “wrong” Christian religion. Check out our history…MRFF’s clientel is more than 95% CHRISTIAN and Jewish.
But too many of our troops are being denied the option of saying: I am not interested. They are being told: Go to chapel…or you end up on restriction or extra duty –crass…but it happens, quite regularly. But you know, it’s even worse than that. We’re told that our Christian faith is wrong. No one wearing the uniform of the US, or in a position of authority has the right to tell me that. NO ONE! Your letter seems to think you have that right. I’ll meet you in court any day of the week, sir. And we’ll find out who gets to pay court costs from losing. And it won’t be me!
Did you ever learn to diagram sentences? The sentence including the right to worship, and the right to be left alone are in the SAME sentence…connected by OR. Your English teacher would remind you that this sentence means that they are EQUAL. Or, in other language, the right to swing your fist ends at my nose. You can believe whateverr you want. You can spend as much of your time and energy and money as you wish–but you have NO right to tell ME how to spend my time, money, or engergy–or tell me HOW to worship.
As a Christian Pastor and former Chaplain, who has had to pick up the pieces too many times after one of my young troops has been ripped apart by your WRONG, UNCONSTITUTIONAL harassment, I can tell you: YOU NEED TO READ your Constitution! And then apologize for bearing false witness (do you know what that means?) against Mikey and the MRFF.
Pr Chris
Freedom of religion is your right to worship as you see fit, that is every one has the right to worship or not as they see fit. Separation of church and state is to keep the church from running all over everyone that doesn’t see fit to do the things they want us to. The Christians have no business running all over the rights of everyone else in the military or anywhere else for that matter. Keep it to your self, not everyone wants to hear it.